Samantha Bee proves hypocrisy on firing people for offensive jokes

a reply to: ketsuko

Black people get attacked by that for being black, being called a # is generally specific to women but calling a single woman a # is not an indictment of what it is to be female. If we had a patriarchal oppressive society where women were dismissed merely for being women and the expression of that was to call them a # then yes you'd have a point, at that point it would be like the n-word. Calling a man a dick is calling him a jerk, it does not implicitly insult all men the way calling a black person a monkey does. Everyone knows this and it's mental gymnastics to pretend otherwise

a reply to: Grambler


LOL.. Samantha Bea is receiving a MEDIA award, and the MEDIA is now banned from the event!

(Am I the only one who never heard of Samantha Bea b4 today?)

a reply to: Grambler

I don't understand some of this. I've never watched Full Frontal but their webpage makes it look like a TBS produced show. So how can you be so offended by this Bee? She was doing her job reading a script. I don't think she's the writer. You should probably go after the producer, writer, or whoever runs that show. Samantha Bee is just hired talent.

a reply to: Grambler
Could you see if Sanford and Son or All in the Family were still on tv today? Didn't really take society long to change. One gets fired one gets a pass. So people put some peoples vile comments above the other person vile comments and then try to explain to you why. I don't get it.

Indeed, the hypocrisy is palpable!

From what I read, Samantha bee wasn't being racist, just crude. Being mean isn't on the same level as racist. I think that's the major difference here. Rosanne was being racist and mean. Bee was just mean.

originally posted by: WhateverYouSay
a reply to: ketsuko

Black people get attacked by that for being black, being called a # is generally specific to women but calling a single woman a # is not an indictment of what it is to be female. If we had a patriarchal oppressive society where women were dismissed merely for being women and the expression of that was to call them a # then yes you'd have a point, at that point it would be like the n-word. Calling a man a dick is calling him a jerk, it does not implicitly insult all men the way calling a black person a monkey does. Everyone knows this and it's mental gymnastics to pretend otherwise

And now you're playing word games and putting people on pedestals where certain types of insults are somehow worse than others.

And insult is an insult. It is calculated to hurt feelings. If someone calls me a c***, do you think I care who it is? It's a vile word and the damage is done.

I guess the only real difference now, according to you, is who else hears it and circumstances they perceive around it. So they get to "share" in my insult and hurt feelings if they perceive the circumstances to be correct for them also be insulted by a slight someone levels at me, personally.

Who asked any of you to share an insult leveled at me?

originally posted by: blueman12
From what I read, Samantha bee wasn't being racist, just crude. Being mean isn't on the same level as racist. I think that's the major difference here. Rosanne was being racist and mean. Bee was just mean.

Bee was being misogynist and mean.

If female deplorables can be analyzed as misogynist for voting for Trump, then Bee can similarly be categorized for hating women close to Trump.

a reply to: ketsuko

I wonder if she had called her a Honkey, Cracka, Cave Ape, would it have mattered?

Nah. It's more and more apparent that if someone is a caucasian anything vile can be said about them and the left has no issue with it. More and more the narrative of white privilege falls apart. It's certainly not white people who are privileged in this country in 2018.

a reply to: ketsuko

A bit of a reach. To me, it just sounded like, "I hate trump, so f$ck the First Lady". Rosanne was (regretfully) being racist to a people that were still oppressed in the 1960s.

Big difference.

Yea man ATS will take down your post for "serious terms & conditions violation" for speaking the damn truth. OP look up the origin of the word we can't write down. Get a laugh....just like I did. The hypocrites on the left still want understand why I'm laughing. The anger here should be directed at TBS....that was a taped monologue . No way that word just sneaked it's way in.

a reply to: Grambler

I truly dislike all of these media people/holograms/whatever they are, but you do recognize that there is a fundamental difference between calling a black person a monkey and calling a some rich girl a c*nt right?

a reply to: Sookiechacha

What hypocrisy?

I dont mind any of that, or smantha bee.

The hypocrisy is of people that demand roseanne be fired for saying something offensive, but applaud samantha bee for what she said and give her an award.

Yes, other people have used that word.

Ok roseanne already lost her job.

Nugent works for himself, and got in a lot of crap for his comments.

And morons wear shirts, what should be done with them?

None of that addresses the hypcocrisy of the fauzx outrage of the people in the entertainment industry.

a reply to: wheresthebody



Ok humor me, is there any word she could have called Ivanka and got fired over it?

originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: ketsuko

A bit of a reach. To me, it just sounded like, "I hate trump, so f$ck the First Lady". Rosanne was (regretfully) being racist to a people that were still oppressed in the 1960s.

Big difference.

Not really.

To a woman, c*** is just as dehumanizing as being compared to an ape is for a black person. Hey, at least an ape is a living thing and not single body part reduced to being called by its most disgusting term.

The only slim bit of wiggle room here is that Bee is a woman, not a man, and even then, the left wouldn't care because Ivanka ain't one of their own.

originally posted by: wheresthebody
a reply to: Grambler

I truly dislike all of these media people/holograms/whatever they are, but you do recognize that there is a fundamental difference between calling a black person a monkey and calling a some rich girl a c*nt right?

No i dont, please explain it.

Because I am told if I called a woamn that, I am slandering women, who are also an oppressed group according to these same people outraged by roseannes comments.

For the record, I say joe rogans podcast, where he said he talked to roseanne, and she said she didnt even know valerie jarret was black, which may or may not be true.

I suppose this counts as a Bee/Rosie double standard if you draw a moral equivalency between being perceived as rude vs. perceived as being racist. Most believe the latter to be a far worse offense.

Side note: Is *snip* like the n-bomb where Bee would "get a pass" since she's a woman saying it?

Certainly if it were a man calling Ivanka a *snip* he'd be off the air in half a heartbeat for being a sexist misogynist.

I guess I see this less as "lefty Bee" gets a pass, and more as "female Bee" gets a pass.

I agree there's a double standard at play, but I don't think framing it politically "left/right" is correct. It's seems more "male/female" in this case.

a reply to: wheresthebody

Roseanne didn't call anybody anything...….her statement has everyone implying she said the word. She did not. She just painted a picture in the minds eye and folks ran with it and the left has lost their collective minds about it.

a reply to: wheresthebody

Roseanne didn't call anybody anything...….her statement has everyone implying she said the word. She did not. She just painted a picture in the minds eye and folks ran with it and the left has lost their collective minds about it.

a reply to: ker2010

Probably not, but if she called a black person a monkey she would most certainly have been fired too.