George Soros :a Nazi collaborator?!?!

a reply to: peter vlar

What if his "family" paid somebody off ?

Apparently his parents were "spared" too.

(argument killer)😎

a reply to: peter vlar

It isn't exactly false either.

And I wouldn't call it surviving in the same sense as other Jews that survived.



Starts at 6:07. Me, Timestamps, and ATS don't get along.

a reply to: peter vlar

When you put it that way, wouldn't you think he'd feel survivors guilt at the very least, upon further reflection later on in life?

a reply to: peter vlar

Thank you for a well reasoned reply. It does put things in perspective but I still stand by what I said.

After decades of time to reflect on the situation, he didn't feel a shred of regret. Maybe not evil, just lacking in empathy?

Is there a difference?

a reply to: xuenchen

The House of Rothschild?

Probably...

There is no doubt after viewing that interview why Soros is the sociopathic evil doer. Being trained to take from others without regret of his actions is a pure sign of extreme mental illness.

He has used this immoral or amoral, if you wish, mentality to thrust his evil in every area of society; starting with his training from a Nazi. He belongs in an insane asylum for the rest of his life. He's a very dangerous person without a conscience or empathy-he'd fit right in with most of his jailmates-he'd rule them like a mob boss.

It looks like the OP gave a good swift kick to a hornet's nest when he attempted to provide cover for the right-wing's "spooky dude." Lots of emotion there...


All I can say is that if Soros admits what he did, then he's owning it. It's good to see a billionaire telling the truth about the dirty little gremlins hiding in his closet. Imagine if all billionaires were as forthcoming. I bet that our 24 hour news cycle would not be nearly as interesting and titillating as it is now.

And if he described his experience as a 14 year old in a positive light, he's legitimately owning that as well. It tells me that his experiences at that point in his life helped to shape the man that he became. It's definitely not the "politically correct" answer that everyone expects. But it is an honest answer. Honest-political-incorrectness is a concept so volatile that any politician exposed to it instantly vaporizes into sub-atomic particles.

George Soros is an avowed globalist. He makes no secret of that fact. He has used his fortune to fund liberal and progressive causes all over the world; just as other billionaires have used their fortunes to support similar efforts on the opposing end of the political spectrum.

While his actions in shorting the currency of various nations could be considered callous and unethical, they were not illegal. Basically what he did was bet big that the government would do something stupid. They did. He won the bet. Given the anti-government sentiment expressed in this forum, I would think that many of the citizens of ATS would applaud such a win.

Quite frankly I'm much more concerned about the efforts of the other members of the super-wealthy to control the political narrative for their own personal greed. I believe that in time such actions as discrediting science and disregarding reasonable environmental controls will kill millions more people than the Nazi's ever considered.

-dex

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: JoshuaCox


In 1945 he was 14 years old!

The were children that old in the Wehrmacht at the end.

Yes but not all by choice. When your country goes rogue and starts attacking most of Europe, you can either join the club or fight against, at 14 most would join the club especially when those nasty allies started bombing back, they were still kids though, then and now.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

It wasn’t a 14 year old...


He was 14 In 1945..

The rounding up of Jews and confiscating their property was years earlier..

A big chunk of it happened before the war officially started. So that would put him at 9 in 1940..


Pretending a 8, 9, 10, 12 or 14 year old child is a Nazi collaborator is literally disgusting..

Maybe even worse than falsely accusing people of rape and child molestation. It is the most obvious case of “ propaganda for stupid people “ I have seen lately.


I man how stupid do you have to be to accuse a 10 year old of betraying his people to the Nazis?!!


Really stupid..

a reply to: Taggart

Not at 14...


He was 14 when it ended..


He would have been 9 or less when the Jews were being rounded up and their property confiscated.


From my understanding most of that took place pre-1940. By 1945 all the Jews were gone or in jail..


Which makes it propaganda for stupid people...


How crazy /propagandized do you have to be to accuse a 9 or 10 year old???

a reply to: Wide-Eyes

There may not be a huge difference when you get right down to it. If nothin else, the experience, according to his recollections in the interview, definitely made him who he is today and even I would be hard pressed to argue against him being a sociopath when he looks at himself as 2 George Soros’ The one who is an amoral businessman who’s sole purpose is to make as much money as he can and the lesser Siri’s who has enough of a twinge if guilt to give away billions in the Last 2 decades. It puts it into perspective when it’s pointed out that his 2 billion investment into Russia in the 90’s was more easily moved than aid from the US and was more money than countries like Haiti had in total assets. I’m certainly no fan of his. I just thought it important to give more context than some other posters would have us believe existed

originally posted by: Taggart
Yes but not all by choice.

No, not ALL, but there were enough who did to use the appeal to emotion that 14 is too young to have been a participant.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: peter vlar

What if his "family" paid somebody off ?

Apparently his parents were "spared" too.

(argument killer)😎

His father did pay people off. He obtained fake papers for everyone in the family and paid off the Hungarian official that pretended to be little George’s godfather and put his own life at risk claiming Soros was a young Christian. I don’t see it as much of an argument killer. He was a kid living in under conditions that today we couldn’t even try imagine.

The closest analogy we have in recent history is the US turning around and invading Iraq in 1990 after a State Dept. Official told Saddam that what happened in the Gulf wasn’t really their concern. We had been an ally of theirs since the Hsag was deposed in 1979 and had funded their side of the Iran-Iraq War. At least until we started funding Iran in the mid 80’s thanks to Lt. Col. North’s assistance. Similar scenario though in general. We were their ally, funded them militarily and gave them some of the chemical weapons and the know how to make more before using them as an excuse to invade and destroy regional stability 15 years ago. I doubt that the Iraqi military or citizenry was prepared for us to stage an assault from Saudi Arabia in 1990 when we were the best if friends and all but told them to go ahead and carve up Kuwait. Only it was worse for the Hungarians in 1944 because they had attempted a separate armistice with Germany's only military threats. Soros and his family had it doubly bad being Hungarian and Jews.

I get to, your mind is made up and nothing will humanize what he had to live through.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: peter vlar

What if his "family" paid somebody off ?

Apparently his parents were "spared" too.

(argument killer)😎

His father did pay people off. He obtained fake papers for everyone in the family and paid off the Hungarian official that pretended to be little George’s godfather and put his own life at risk claiming Soros was a young Christian. I don’t see it as much of an argument killer. He was a kid living in under conditions that today we couldn’t even try imagine.

The closest analogy we have in recent history is the US turning around and invading Iraq in 1990 after a State Dept. Official told Saddam that what happened in the Gulf wasn’t really their concern. We had been an ally of theirs since the Hsag was deposed in 1979 and had funded their side of the Iran-Iraq War. At least until we started funding Iran in the mid 80’s thanks to Lt. Col. North’s assistance. Similar scenario though in general. We were their ally, funded them militarily and gave them some of the chemical weapons and the know how to make more before using them as an excuse to invade and destroy regional stability 15 years ago. I doubt that the Iraqi military or citizenry was prepared for us to stage an assault from Saudi Arabia in 1990 when we were the best if friends and all but told them to go ahead and carve up Kuwait. Only it was worse for the Hungarians in 1944 because they had attempted a separate armistice with Germany's only military threats. Soros and his family had it doubly bad being Hungarian and Jews.

I get to, your mind is made up and nothing will humanize what he had to live through.

originally posted by: Wardaddy454
a reply to: peter vlar

When you put it that way, wouldn't you think he'd feel survivors guilt at the very least, upon further reflection later on in life?

I would certainly think so and would argue that that’s exactly what he’s doing when he gives away billions of dollars of his own money. I may not agree with it supoirt the causes he funds but somethingmin him is telling him that time is short and he needs to make something good come
If his 65 year campaign of sociopathic greed.

a reply to: peter vlar

Yes. He's giving it to people with globalist agendas thus continuing the dream of the Nazis.

Such a shame. That kind of money could've actually helped lots of suffering people.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

Considering how littered your posts were with spelling errors and grammatical errors, I find it brave you accused people of being stupid for literally listening to Soros. His words, not anyone else's.

Now I'll agree with you he obviously wasn't a Nazi collaborator, or orchestrator at such a young age...

But HE speaks of it, he has gone into great detail about it.

So what exactly are you going on about? I have a feeling you'll be a bit more "coherent" with your responses today, just a hunch.


BTW, you didn't do all your research. Germany invaded Hungary in 1944 (putting Soros at the still young age of 13)

Hitler discovered this betrayal, and in March 1944, German forces occupied Hungary.

wiki

Still, it's not what he did as a child, it's how he speaks of it as an adult that rubs people the wrong way.

Maybe ask yourself why so many countries dislike him.... Maybe because he helped wreck their economy for personal gain.

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: the owlbear
Check out Prescott Bush.

Yeah, those bushes...

He was actually fined for his business dealings with the Germans.

Little Georgie had to parachute out of a plane cuz war that his dad funded.

A wild whataboutism has appeared!

Never mind that, you should see what just fell out of his pocket !

... this thread proves people such a OP are in direct denial of everything around them. What Soros says as an adult reflects absolutely on his impression as a child. He finds it funny, he watched his own people, jews, taken to their death and he was complicit in taking their possessions.

Yes Joshua. He is a creep and a demon. What is it that manifests within you, the need to stand up for him? Number 13 on the SJW agenda card? "#13 - stick up for soros, no matter what comrade!"

The fact that he was at that age is part of the problem. It is in our younger years that much of the development that defines who we become occurs. That he did these things, be it through coercion, need, whatever, while understandable to a degree played a huge role in his emotional and cognitive development. He learned to be able to throw anyone under the table, benefit at their expense and be ok with it all due to living through the necessity of this experience at such an important time in his emotional and cognitive development.

Due to this he is now a man who will happily set up entire nations economies to crumble, divide nations, create problems, and encourage hatred and misery so he can profit from the aftermath. All through legal means.

Legal is not always right or morally decent, and illegal is likewise not always wrong or morally reprehensible. So sick of hearing legal being banded about as meaning something is ok and no one should do anything about it. Things can be both legal, wrong and morally reprehensible. That we allow legality as a defense against actions that harm millions is a sign of our societies dysfunction, and demonstrates where the rule of law fails.

A man can steal a loaf of bread to feed his family and see prison while another man can manipulate economics to devastate the lives of millions and get away with it cause it's "legally" done.

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: peter vlar

Yes. He's giving it to people with globalist agendas thus continuing the dream of the Nazis.

Such a shame. That kind of money could've actually helped lots of suffering people.

I very much agree with you. Like I said, I don't agree with the agenda in play. I'm just explaining the rationale he employs. Neuroplasticity shows us that the mind of an adolescent, and even more so in young males, is not fully formed until around age 20. This means that our morals aren't fully formed until then and it's been shown that trauma during adolescence affects the development of our moral compass. It's pretty clear that his is way out of whack. None of this means that he conspired with the Nazi's as is the claim being addressed in the OP. For all of the people posting in this thread pontificating, I've yet to see anyone raise their hand and say " No, if my father had the money to buy my safety, I still wouldn't take the opportunity if it meant packing up the homes of people who had been deported and collecting their belongings. Instead I would walk down to the nearest SS officer and turn myself in as a Jew in hiding because it's the right thing to do". Nobody at 14 would have chosen certain death over playing along, especially if my capture meant that my benefactor would also be arrested, tortured and executed... but not until he ratted out the rest of my family and they were rounded up and executed as well. It's great to judge people 74 years after the fact, never having to have lived through a horror of that magnitude because we're a bunch of fairly spoiled and sheltered people in most western societies and can in no way understand or appreciate the context of what it was like to make those choices in 1944