Star Wars: Faint Memory Of A Highly Advanced Prehistoric Civilization?

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: BelowLowAnnouncement
If there was a nuclear war on that scale 130 million years ago would we be not be able to detect it in a geological layer? A layer of radioactive elements or at least a darkened sooty layer of ash such as with some asteroid impacts? This is a genuine question not a masked statement, I don't know for sure.

Scientists say that we began what is called the Anthropocene Epoch/Era/Period in about 1950 due to the marked and detectable global scattering of radioactive elements since we began testing nuclear bombs (and also to a lesser extent our increased use of plastic).

Yes, we'd be able to detect it... along with all the changes done to the Earth by advanced civilizations (areas they farmed, roads, cities, mines, etc, etc.)

Did you read the part where it said there were only 30 million of them?
That's not very many people. About 0.33% of todays population. Or 1/3000. So All that technology couldve been... well, UK has 65million, so, half that size? Plus, technology allows more people to be able to live comfortably in smaller spaces... For all we know, all the tech couldve been confined to a place not much bigger than London, with only small scattered bits. (edit to add: plus they said the entire civilization moved underground, so...)

If we could fly from place to place we would tear up our roads and let nature retake them.

It doesn't require all kinds of noticeable Manmade Earth Changes to support 30 million people. And all the roads and farms that they hypothetically may have meeded to get to that point couldve easily been erased. How many of our mistakes would we like to go back and erase all evidence of? For them it might just be common sense to clean up after themselves, we have no idea what was important to them, if they existed.

A mine could be collapsed with a single bomb and after 130 million years of natural forces, you wouldnt recognize it.

A lot can happen in a million years. This was 130 million years ago.

Its more likely that it would not be so obvious and there would only be a few examples around that you might notice if you looked closely.

99.9% of it could be underwater, buried under mountains of silt and mud, or depending where it was, their entire 30 million person city could be pure magma right now, being recylced into the earth along with the section of Earth's crust it was sitting on...

They say Pangea just started breaking apart 175MYA. This was 130MYA and they were half the size of the UK.

So No, you are wrong when you say that we would be able to detect roads and farms and mines and cities. We Might be able to, but there is No assurance as you imply.

That doesn't mean it existed, it just means you are wrong when you so matter of factly assume we would detect all that stuff. As far as the nuclear war, we could assume they may have had cleaner bombs, and they used their tech to clean up afterwards as well. However, would there really be much left to detect after 130 million years, even with our dirty filthy bombs that we have?

originally posted by: 3n19m470

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: BelowLowAnnouncement
If there was a nuclear war on that scale 130 million years ago would we be not be able to detect it in a geological layer? A layer of radioactive elements or at least a darkened sooty layer of ash such as with some asteroid impacts? This is a genuine question not a masked statement, I don't know for sure.

Scientists say that we began what is called the Anthropocene Epoch/Era/Period in about 1950 due to the marked and detectable global scattering of radioactive elements since we began testing nuclear bombs (and also to a lesser extent our increased use of plastic).

Yes, we'd be able to detect it... along with all the changes done to the Earth by advanced civilizations (areas they farmed, roads, cities, mines, etc, etc.)

Did you read the part where it said there were only 30 million of them?

We find campsites of small bands of people (less than 20 individuals) that go back a million years. Thirty million is a lot of individuals.

That's not very many people. About 0.33% of todays population. Or 1/3000. So All that technology couldve been... well, UK has 65million, so, half that size? Plus, technology allows more people to be able to live comfortably in smaller spaces... For all we know, all the tech couldve been confined to a place not much bigger than London, with only small scattered bits. (edit to add: plus they said the entire civilization moved underground, so...)

The only way this could happen is if all thirty million suddenly spontaneously beamed onto our planet with artificial food and material replicators, did 100% recycling, and lived far underground.

If we could fly from place to place we would tear up our roads and let nature retake them.

Roads actually change the landscape. It's quite possible to trace ancient paths.

It doesn't require all kinds of noticeable Manmade Earth Changes to support 30 million people. And all the roads and farms that they hypothetically may have meeded to get to that point couldve easily been erased. How many of our mistakes would we like to go back and erase all evidence of? For them it might just be common sense to clean up after themselves, we have no idea what was important to them, if they existed.

We can find farms that are 4,000 years old and older because of the changes in the landscape.

A mine could be collapsed with a single bomb and after 130 million years of natural forces, you wouldnt recognize it.

Actually, we could. It would appear as a long and collapsed shaft that went through several types of rock of many different ages. It would be obvious as an intrusive feature.

A lot can happen in a million years. This was 130 million years ago.

Its more likely that it would not be so obvious and there would only be a few examples around that you might notice if you looked closely.

99.9% of it could be underwater, buried under mountains of silt and mud, or depending where it was, their entire 30 million person city could be pure magma right now, being recylced into the earth along with the section of Earth's crust it was sitting on...

They say Pangea just started breaking apart 175MYA. This was 130MYA and they were half the size of the UK.

So No, you are wrong when you say that we would be able to detect roads and farms and mines and cities. We Might be able to, but there is No assurance as you imply.

That doesn't mean it existed, it just means you are wrong when you so matter of factly assume we would detect all that stuff. As far as the nuclear war, we could assume they may have had cleaner bombs, and they used their tech to clean up afterwards as well. However, would there really be much left to detect after 130 million years, even with our dirty filthy bombs that we have?

And unless they suddenly beamed down onto the planet and died within one generation, the "advanced civilization" had to have less advanced forms (our modern civilization was preceded by Victorian England (which was a lot messier and left evidence all over the place) and that was preceded by Medieval civilization and before that you had the ancient Romans... etc, etc (I just glossed over a lot of things.)

Look at our own human history and you'll see how much we leave on the landscape.

A big influence in Lucas's Star Wars was Campbell's "Hero With a Thousand Faces", a comparative myth study of the archtypical hero story.

In film
George Lucas' deliberate use of Campbell's theory of the monomyth in the making of the Star Wars movies is well documented. On the DVD release of the famous colloquy between Campbell and Bill Moyers, filmed at Lucas' Skywalker Ranch and broadcast in 1988 on PBS as The Power of Myth, Campbell and Moyers discussed Lucas's use of The Hero with a Thousand Faces in making his films.(11) Lucas himself discussed how Campbell's work affected his approach to storytelling and film-making.(12)

Hero With a Thousand Faces

"A hero ventures forth from the world of common day into a region of supernatural wonder: fabulous forces are there encountered and a decisive victory is won: the hero comes back from this mysterious adventure with the power to bestow boons on his fellow man."

Campbell 1949

*cough* tartaria *cough*

a reply to: Guyfriday

hmmm maybe he was abducted and the car crash made the memories flood back in?

a reply to: humanoidlord

No it was supposedly during the time in his life when he wanted to be a race car driver. Oddly enough, it was this same accident that made him lose interest in being an auto racer.

a reply to: Guyfriday

well not sure how that clashes with my point

a reply to: 3n19m470

Don’t forget being totally eco friendly they were.

a reply to: humanoidlord


Oh sorry, I left out the cause of the accident. He flipped his car on the track. If he had been abducted surely other people at the track would have said something about that by now.


George's claim about it, was that he got bumped by another driver, but for some reason wasn't able to regain control of his car. His car ended up flipped over, though the accident shouldn't have done that. In a car accident anything can and will happen though. The point where "QC" could be a cause was that the other driver supposedly stated that he too couldn't steer away from George's car either. After the crash George claimed in an interview that was when he thought up the Star Wars idea (to be completely honest though, what we see on screen is nothing like what he came up with).


After looking into early Star Wars development, I think it's safe to say that if George did take a Holocron from the other side of "here", we may never know the full reality as it was since what we saw in the films is only a shadow of what George originally wanted.

I don't like lies in the name of job creation and amassing fortunes.

I really don't like suppressive actions of any type...they cramp my style and because of due diligence they attract my attention not to their distraction but to the catalyst behind their existence....that wastes my time and then this gets personal.

This data works with NewEarths data and it all plays back into a bigger picture.

Lets get some people to find out the NAMES of the people responsible for removing and suppressing this technology...some real hard core evidence of the money trail of the influence trail.......WE WANT NAMES NOW.

originally posted by: Guyfriday
Funny story about this topic, George Lucas stated that he came up with the idea for Star Wars after getting in a car accident and hitting his head. He had came up with 9 chapters about the Whills, and their force abilities. To me it sounded like he was just modernizing the story, "Vril, the Power of the Coming Race". Though is it possible that when he hit his head that he somehow tapped into a different reality?

Yes, I know I push the whole "Quantum Cavitation" theory alot, but it does seem to put a possible answer to a lot of weirdness out there (and it's scienitifically possible) Is it possible that George Lucas drove his car through a pocket of "QC" space, and that caused him to crash? If so could that also explain where and how he came up with the very fleshed out Star Wars universe? While there have been many rewrites and re-imaginings of Star Wars over the years, if you go back and look up his original ideas and stories it's amazing that he "just came up with it" after a car crash. I would almost go as far as to say that it's possible that he took a Holocron from that other reality given how exact he always stated things to be in Star Wars. many of the people that worked with him during the first three movies (that's episodes 4,5,and 6 for you new kids) stated that he would comment on how "it doesn't look correct", or "that's not how it was". It would seem that maybe he has a little more on the Star Wars thing then we might think. On the other hand maybe, he really did just modernize the whole Vrill story.

Great post!

Now what's really interesting is I've read/heard nearly the the same thing about Gene Roddenberry and when he was asked how star trek came up with all this technical stuff, he usually either never answered or redirected the question (it's only what I've heard)....?

originally posted by: ridgerunner
The fossil record is pretty damning to these stories.Fun to read though and certainly we lost records of some great civilizations and knowledge.There were no planes trains and automobiles in those days.That was a few years back,RIP John Candy.

Well, interesting to note....the ocean floor definitely looks like something stretched it apart!

originally posted by: Komodo

originally posted by: ridgerunner
The fossil record is pretty damning to these stories.Fun to read though and certainly we lost records of some great civilizations and knowledge.There were no planes trains and automobiles in those days.That was a few years back,RIP John Candy.

Well, interesting to note....the ocean floor definitely looks like something stretched it apart!

Yes. Tectonic movement.

a reply to: Byrd


I thought it was Jesus' biceps.

a reply to: Guyfriday

no, i am saying that the crash brought back memories of a past abduction, obviously the abduction dint happen at that moment

a reply to: humanoidlord


Interesting idea.

Star Wars isn't dead, The Last Jedi and Solo were brilliant, in fact I love all Star Wars movies, and remember know it it alls slagging off the prequels, in fact no one liked Empire Strikes Back when it came out, yet it's now considered the best, stop being a misery arse

a reply to: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Byrd


I thought it was Jesus' biceps.

Now y'all just stop that sorta thing! I know you're trying to indoctrinate us into that Masonic Body Building Cult where we all end up looking like pyramids, AN IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN, BUB!!!

a reply to: punkinworks10

I was just given this book by a friend, and started it about 30 minutes ago- oooohhhhh!!!!! It’s a conspiracy!