The sugar free Lifestyle and the Ketogenic Diet

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

While getting nutrients from food is the best way to go, what are your thoughts about getting any nutrients at all from commercially grown foods harvested days and days before it gets to our tables?

Certainly, the amount of good is lessened??

a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

It would be ideal to eat only freshly harvested organic foods, but then again, nothing is ever truly ideal anymore. The truth is, you get what you're willing to pay for, or what you can afford.

originally posted by: mblahnikluver
a reply to: SurveyTheSurveyors

I have come across this recently and have wondered about it. Do you recommend any books or sites? My concern is the carbs. I love my pasta and bread!

Off the top of my head I do not but I'll try and find the sources I found most useful during the start of my endeavors.

Keto is not complicated. The idea is to reprogram your body to use fat as fuel instead of carbs. Your diet to begin with should start out along the lines of 80% fat, 15% protein, and 5% carbs. At 5% carbs you can pretty much say goodbye to all breeds, pastas, and sugars. It's hard to do at first, but once you overcome the sugar barrier you'll see life through a different window, a window filled with less body fat, more energy, and more mental clarity!

May I ask, what is your goal with the Ketogenic Diet? Depending on what you're looking for I can point you in many different directions and would love to help anyway I can!

Cheers!
-StS

Can you still drink Beer
or Vodka
or Whiskey..?

originally posted by: spoonbender
Can you still drink Beer
or Vodka
or Whiskey..?

Beer is slim to none. I love beer, but to be in consistent state of ketosis it's got to go! You can however drink other alcohols in moderation. My drink of choice is Gin, club soda, lemon, and lime. Takes the edge off a days work while leaving you happily in ketosis!

I do miss my beer though, sad face.

Cheers! Not with a beer of course...
-StS

a reply to: rickymouse

At that price you're doing more good than damage to your wallet, and that's always a good feeling Ricky.

Thank you for defining taurine and it's uses, seems like quite the important substance to consume on a daily basis. Ill definitely be looking into more efficient ways to adequately get it into my diet.

The reason I ask about the legality of your state is that there's an extremely high value in raw juicing it in its entirety. The medicinal value doesn't depreciate as it's going straight from stalk, to the juicer, to the consumer. When raw juiced it also doesn't provide any type of high whats so ever, so may be an awesome alternitave for you! I provided my mother with these juices during and after her cancer phase, mind you she hated the thought of getting or feeling high, and I firmly believe that it's the reason it has yet to come back. I also use to provide a buddy of mine a stock of the juices for him to consume, in which he said helped a lot with his epilepsy.

Sounds like the journey has been rough for you ricky, but I'm glad to hear the destination seems to be getting better and better. You're a strong individual and i have the utmost respect for you when it comes to attacking your ailment on the frontlines in order to better your life. I wish others approached their problems with as much dedication and determination as you, I truly do.

Why be meeky when you can be ricky?

Cheers my brother, wishing you well always!
-StS

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

Right on! And I totally hear that haha, making coffee or tea has always been a ritual for me. It's always the start to a great day am I right?

I agree with you completely, that's why I've started an organic community garden in my rural neighborhood. The direction agriculture is going is saddening and truly frightens me. You can always buy organic, but what does that really mean? Unless I grow it myself or know someone personally that does, organic means nothing to me. That's why I supplement with organic super foods, vitamins, and oils for the time being.

Your temple is your temple, and the way you train your body is unique and applies only to you. I'm sure you're doing things right and that your body appreciates the effort! Keep fighting the good fight my friend! HEALTH IS WEALTH!

Cheers,
-StS

a reply to: SurveyTheSurveyors

I've been on the keto diet for 2 months, I've lost 30 pounds as well from 255 to 225 so far. Never felt so good, never bloated anymore, it's amazing. Sugar truly is poison.

originally posted by: WhyDidIJoin
a reply to: SurveyTheSurveyors

I've been on the keto diet for 2 months, I've lost 30 pounds as well from 255 to 225 so far. Never felt so good, never bloated anymore, it's amazing. Sugar truly is poison.

Congratulations my friend! Keto is just a minor step in the major process, and once you find your groove life just isn't the same. Ill never indulge in sugars and carbs like I use to, but boy do I miss a good ol pizza lol!

Cheers to your progress and your future health!
-StS

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

Even organic can be many days from harvest.
I truly believe supplements are very necessary.

No matter how many times I read it, I am always surprised at how quickly fresh produce loses its nutrient value after harvest. University of California studies show that vegetables can lose 15 to 55 percent of vitamin C, for instance, within a week. Some spinach can lose 90 percent within the first 24 hours after harvest.

articles.chicagotribune.com... ers-vitamin-c

How to minimize destruction

-Shorten “field to fork” time. Buy the most recently harvested vegetables you can.
-Seal in airtight bags to lower oxygen levels.
-Delay cutting.
-Buy the whole vegetable vs. pre-cut and bagged.
-Cut right before you cook. Don’t peel or pre-cut and store in fridge.
-Cut into extra large sizes to cook and cut smaller after cooking.
-Peel vegetables (beets, carrots, potatoes) after cooking, as the skin helps keep nutrients in.
-Avoid boiling.
-Fro-veg is better than no-veg, but eat frozen only when fresh is not practical.
-Drink “just-juiced” juice.

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www.verywellfit.com...

a reply to: SurveyTheSurveyors

Thanks to STS for starting this thread, and to all of the contributors.
Your generosity has been noticed: thanks.

What a wealth of info, and fabulous good intentions!

Have done Atkins/low-carb a few times over the 16-17 years, with strong and successful results.
But alas: human weakness seems to rule the day, and always sneaks back into play.

Could someone start a complimentary new thread, with the basic info needed for one to take better charge of their own health, please?
From the same helpful, and uncommercial POV that you gentlemen have expressed herein.

Example: starting with the first steps, and tools needed, to evaluate one's own health.
IE: The public BP machines seem to have quite different results, from pharmacy to pharmacy. From asking a couple of pharmacists, they couldn't give any reliable info as to the regularity of calibration.
IE: Getting a large-scale bloodwork done, and how to analyse it.
IE: How to take notes, and make pertinent observations about one's progress. (Might seem easy for some, but not for all.)


Honestly think this is all pertinent to many ATS members, for many reasons.
Thank you all!

a reply to: SurveyTheSurveyors

I don't feel like providing links but I heard this diet should not be a lifestyle.

Your cholesterol will shoot up eventually.

Hyperlipidemia and fatty liver will develop.

It will be very taxing on your kidneys; watch creatinine and uric acid levels.

Professional and competent medical supervision is critical.

I hear 4 months is pushing it; then you must go vegan for six months then you can repeat the ketogenic diet if you absolutely must.

Good luck.

originally posted by: Nothin
a reply to: SurveyTheSurveyors

Thanks to STS for starting this thread, and to all of the contributors.
Your generosity has been noticed: thanks.

What a wealth of info, and fabulous good intentions!

Have done Atkins/low-carb a few times over the 16-17 years, with strong and successful results.
But alas: human weakness seems to rule the day, and always sneaks back into play.

Could someone start a complimentary new thread, with the basic info needed for one to take better charge of their own health, please?
From the same helpful, and uncommercial POV that you gentlemen have expressed herein.

Example: starting with the first steps, and tools needed, to evaluate one's own health.
IE: The public BP machines seem to have quite different results, from pharmacy to pharmacy. From asking a couple of pharmacists, they couldn't give any reliable info as to the regularity of calibration.
IE: Getting a large-scale bloodwork done, and how to analyse it.
IE: How to take notes, and make pertinent observations about one's progress. (Might seem easy for some, but not for all.)


Honestly think this is all pertinent to many ATS members, for many reasons.
Thank you all!

The pleasure is all mine my friend. Health is wealth, not the other way around. I want to share my journey with others to let them know there is a way, if you have the will.

Keto was derived from Atkins, with a more strict formula and goal of entering and maintaining ketosis. Once you enter ketosis it's a lot easier to maintain your diets integrity, less cravings towards the evils of sugars and hard carbs. Honestly, I think about sugars and carbs all of the time but my mental strength has increased so much during keto, that I don't play victim. For example, I go out to eat with friends and they're all eating pizza, I eat a salad with chicken, and have no immediate urge to grab a slice. The biggest reward of this diet to me is understanding ones own self control, and how much you can achieve if you set your mind to it. Anything's possible, as long as you try!

I would love to be apart of a thread like you have mentioned. It would be a great way to motivate eachother and encourage new mindsets. My goal here on ATS is to keep all of my threads away from politics, encourage positivity, and make new friends. We're all here for a reason, and I want to keep all my interactions here positive and authentic. Thank you for joining the thread, and I say we bring the thread you'd like to see to fruition!

Cheers my friend!
-StS

originally posted by: reject
a reply to: SurveyTheSurveyors

I don't feel like providing links but I heard this diet should not be a lifestyle.

Your cholesterol will shoot up eventually.

Hyperlipidemia and fatty liver will develop.

It will be very taxing on your kidneys; watch creatinine and uric acid levels.

Professional and competent medical supervision is critical.

I hear 4 months is pushing it; then you must go vegan for six months then you can repeat the ketogenic diet if you absolutely must.

Good luck.

This diet isn't just meat and butter. People that are taking this lifestyle seriously are only consuming high quality nutritious foods. I get a lot of my proteins from green super foods, a lot of my fats from olive and coconut oils, and take a variety of organic supplements to keep my body at it's peak 24/7. Cholesterol levels do rise, whether they rise to an unhealthy level is strictly dependent on the person, and where they get their fats from. I eat a lot of fish, avocados, and fiber, which lower LDL and keep your HDL optimal. This diet requires a lot of attention and research, you can't just wing it. Ill give more feedback in another month when I do a follow up doctors visit on my body chemistry, and will share the results.

I also fast 2 times a week where my only intake is Lemon water with Apple Cider Vinegar, Yerba Mate, and my daily Vitamin/Mineral supplements. I consider this my detox or renewal period. I haven't felt or seen any I'll effects from keto, and I feel better than I ever have in my life. It can't be anywhere close to being as bad as drinking soda, eating deserts, unhealthy snacks, and excess amounts of carbohydrates. I'm listening to my body, and it's telling me I'm doing well and rewarding me with a new form of functionality and happiness.

Only time will tell my friend, cheers!
-StS

I am glad you found something that works for you. But you have to ask yourself if it's sustainable. Will you be doing a Keto diet 10, 15, 20 years from now? Probably not... and by the then the Keto diet will have re-vamped and changed names, yet again.

The reason why this "diet" works and the reason why all of these diets and replacement supplements work - Keto, Paleo, Atkins, Low/no sugar, Low/no carb, Weight Watchers, Beachbody, SlimQuick, South Beach, Jenny Craig, Intermittent Fasting (IF) and the list goes on and on an on, is because they all have ONE thing in common - they reduce the overall amount of calories the person is consuming daily by either reducing their portion sizes or restricting the number of caloric consumption by eliminating entire food groups. Do some research on CRON to explain why you feel so good on a reduced calorie diet.

Bottom line is our bodies require fat, protein and carbohydrates for optimal performance. People make it into a science project when all they really need to do is calculate and track their calories / macros each day according to nutritional goals.

As far as all of the cleansing and detox products out there? Remember this... the liver is an amazing organ lol!

Yes, I am a master licensed nutritionist - sports/adolescent/holistic and abnormal, a body builder and boxing coach.

Agree with you. Keto diet is good. and the mind is clearer, but it is not recommended to sit on it for a long time. The organism needs legumes and cereals. Also in all fruits contain essential amino acids.

a reply to: Judy21

I don't think I have ever heard that cereals or legumes are necessary for life.
KETO/low carb is a healthy way of eating.....long term.

a reply to: reject

As long as you follow the keto diet strictly, it will not shoot up. I consulted with my doctor before starting it, he told me not to do it, but I did it anyways. We did bloodwork and ekg before I started and again after 2 and a half months, my cholesterol is lower than it started at!

One other thing I noticed on keto is that I haven't been sick since getting the keto flu of course. I owe everything to my girlfriend tho, she makes most of the food.

Despite it's health claims, it is not a sustainable nutrition plan.

a reply to: Skorpiogurl

How so?
What do you have to back that up....

Explain how sugar is good for you, please