Department of Justice Announces Probe Of FBI Politically Motivated Spying On Trump Campaign

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: Arnie123

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: underwerks

The Obama Administration and the Clinton/DNC Campaign went after an opponent with government resources.

That's what happened.

A wide and broad deflection to "other billionaires" is a crazy tangent.

Now you wonder why people won't give you (by your standards) an "intelligent" response.

And we wonder why this happened ?

🤷👋

If you ever had any evidence for anything you say or post, I might take you a little more seriously. But until then... Lmao.

Right, follow your own advice. You literally have nothing to say on this thread other then the usual libtard pokes, when confronted, you default to, "nu uh! i'll wat til my crew shows up so we can scream and shout in our echo chamber".

Lmfao, get real yo 🤭

You’re incorrect. I just asked why do people think Trump wasn’t already under investigation?

Then the insults start. It doesn’t bother me though. I actually like echo chambers like this thread. It’s really interesting.

Can you answer the question though? And this isn’t some “narrative” as people here try to frame it as to delegitimize it. It’s an honest question. Knowing what I know and have read about the way our intelligence agencies operate, it seems to me they’d be not doing their job if they didn’t watch super rich people who do business deals with hostile foreign nations.

we know you like echo chambers, hence, your ideology failing.

a reply to: burntheships


Haha! Liberal media is starting to turn on Rosenstein. They feel betrayed by his swift/postive reponse to Trump's request. Like instinct driven, small-minded candle flies, they're now concerned that he may terminate Mueller.

Expect Dimorcats to renew calls for, "Protect Mueller!".

originally posted by: underwerks

It stands to reason that if someone that’s been under surveillance for years decides to run for president of the United States there’s going to be a renewed interest in what he’s doing among people in the intelligence community. Especially if he does business with hostile foreign nations.

Now you can frame that as having a political motivation if you want, but it doesn’t make it true.

Conveniently overlooking the Peter Strzok Lisa Pages Texts,
and that Comey did not like Trump, and wanted Clinton to win.

???

originally posted by: Arnie123

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: Arnie123

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: underwerks

The Obama Administration and the Clinton/DNC Campaign went after an opponent with government resources.

That's what happened.

A wide and broad deflection to "other billionaires" is a crazy tangent.

Now you wonder why people won't give you (by your standards) an "intelligent" response.

And we wonder why this happened ?

🤷👋

If you ever had any evidence for anything you say or post, I might take you a little more seriously. But until then... Lmao.

Right, follow your own advice. You literally have nothing to say on this thread other then the usual libtard pokes, when confronted, you default to, "nu uh! i'll wat til my crew shows up so we can scream and shout in our echo chamber".

Lmfao, get real yo 🤭

You’re incorrect. I just asked why do people think Trump wasn’t already under investigation?

Then the insults start. It doesn’t bother me though. I actually like echo chambers like this thread. It’s really interesting.

Can you answer the question though? And this isn’t some “narrative” as people here try to frame it as to delegitimize it. It’s an honest question. Knowing what I know and have read about the way our intelligence agencies operate, it seems to me they’d be not doing their job if they didn’t watch super rich people who do business deals with hostile foreign nations.

we know you like echo chambers, hence, your ideology failing.

No answer and just another insult.

And I’m the one who’s ideology is failing.

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

Brennan should definitely be worried. He and Comey have been caught lying under oath about how the FBI and the
intelligence community spied on the Trump campaign, when the spying started, and why it was started.

Curious that we're not hearing more from James (No, my # does NOT stink) Comey. Perhaps he moved to New Zealand over the weekend?

They appear to have been in deep collusion doo doo.
Then they perjured themselves.

Maybe he is looking diplomatic immunity?

a reply to: Cassi3l

Trouble is, Team Trump knew who these people were before they were "allowed" in.

How else would he be able to expose them.

Can't expose somebody that never gets into the Sun.Light and gets Sun.Burn.

The Strategy is brilliant and never before seen in Presidential history.

The last Admin and DNC are suffering from "Model-T backfire syndrome" now.

That's incurable too by the way 😎🎁💥

originally posted by: Cassi3l
Let's imagine that the DOJ does their job

investigates away and discovers ...
That the FBI were well justified in "keeping tabs" on Team Trump
Simply due to the people Trump surrounded himself with

Just to take Manafort and his crew as one example:
Who in their right mind would want this guy on board
especially given his work history, his foreign contacts
the fact that he needed to get back in to the good books of Diaparosa ...

That in itself would raise a hell of a lot of flags around one question :
"WTF is Team Trump doing working with this guy ?"

The FBI knew all about Manafort way back in 2012 and beyond.
Even the Judge knew that, and confronted Mueller and his
bad cops about this problem.

And don't forget Tony Podesta was like Manafort's glove.
But he is off the hook? You might want to think a bit
more in depth than Grimm's fairy tales.

errrrr> crash>

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: underwerks

It stands to reason that if someone that’s been under surveillance for years decides to run for president of the United States there’s going to be a renewed interest in what he’s doing among people in the intelligence community. Especially if he does business with hostile foreign nations.

Now you can frame that as having a political motivation if you want, but it doesn’t make it true.

Conveniently overlooking the Peter Strzok Lisa Pages Texts,
and that Comey did not like Trump, and wanted Clinton to win.

???

Texts which were taken out of context to support the manufactured narrative of Trump being an outsider and the “government” working against him.

So not liking Trump is evidence these people were working and conspiring against him? If that’s all you need to believe someone was conspiring against Trump no wonder you guys think what you do.

I guess this eagle is conspiring against trump as well.

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: Cassi3l
Let's imagine that the DOJ does their job

investigates away and discovers ...
That the FBI were well justified in "keeping tabs" on Team Trump
Simply due to the people Trump surrounded himself with

Just to take Manafort and his crew as one example:
Who in their right mind would want this guy on board
especially given his work history, his foreign contacts
the fact that he needed to get back in to the good books of Diaparosa ...

That in itself would raise a hell of a lot of flags around one question :
"WTF is Team Trump doing working with this guy ?"

The FBI knew all about Manafort way back in 2012 and beyond.
Even the Judge knew that, and confronted Mueller and his
bad cops about this problem.

And don't forget Tony Podesta was like Manafort's glove.
But he is off the hook? You might want to think a bit
more in depth than Grimm's fairy tales.

Back in 2012, the FBI decided Manafort's actions did not warrant prosecution. Now, suddenly he needs to go down for it. The judge -- correctly -- is cast a skeptical eye toward Mueller, demanding that he justify Manafort's prosecution on it's own merits, and not simply as something that he hopes will lead to dirt on Trump.

a reply to: underwerks

If Trump was under surveillance for "years" before, they would have killed his Campaign in 2016.

But since nobody thought to publish it, I suppose that means it's all BS fickle.tickle.cluck 😎

It's better than up-side-down bread.

🙃💆

I am going to quote the wicked witch of the west

"Honestly, at this point, what does it matter?"

Are we seriously going to show concern that there was spying within parties?

There is a giant server farm in Utah sucking the electricity of 200,000 homes operating with tax dollars used to spy on every chunk of info out there, our phones, TV's and cars have been hijacked to spy on us on top of the smith-mundt act, on top of the electronic privacy removal act.

So Trump wants to play outrage when he gets spied on?

He's 3 tons of BS, they all are.

Tune into the opera and pay your taxes slaves.

It's like a gd rapist putting the game on for you while you get raped making sure you're entertained too.

a reply to: underwerks

Yeah the texts were all out of context.

How does somebody take a 3 word text and get it "out of context" ?

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: underwerks

If Trump was under surveillance for "years" before, they would have killed his Campaign in 2016.

But since nobody thought to publish it, I suppose that means it's all BS fickle.tickle.cluck 😎

It's better than up-side-down bread.

🙃💆

Imagine the backlash if the FBI/whoever came out in the run up to the election with this information.

Part of the country would have probably burned. All this coming out now doesn’t mean it’s fake, just that whoever was in charge of this information chose to avoid the biggest public relations disaster in the history of America.

By this point, you probably need to change the battery in your watch. We’ve been tick tocking for over a year now.

a reply to: xuenchen

Trouble is, Team Trump knew who these people were before they were "allowed" in.

I have difficulty in truly believing that Team Trump
knew the extent of Manafort's dealings
and said 'come aboard' anyway

That'd be naivety

Alternatively, if i take your assertion at face value,
and Team Trump said "come on board, you're just like one of us"

Then that'd be sheer stupidity !

What's it to be
Team Trump is/was terminally naive or just plain dumb
to allow themselves to be surrounded by shady people
incurring the needless interest of the FBI
?

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: Cassi3l
Let's imagine that the DOJ does their job

investigates away and discovers ...
That the FBI were well justified in "keeping tabs" on Team Trump
Simply due to the people Trump surrounded himself with

Just to take Manafort and his crew as one example:
Who in their right mind would want this guy on board
especially given his work history, his foreign contacts
the fact that he needed to get back in to the good books of Diaparosa ...

That in itself would raise a hell of a lot of flags around one question :
"WTF is Team Trump doing working with this guy ?"

The FBI knew all about Manafort way back in 2012 and beyond.
Even the Judge knew that, and confronted Mueller and his
bad cops about this problem.

And don't forget Tony Podesta was like Manafort's glove.
But he is off the hook? You might want to think a bit
more in depth than Grimm's fairy tales.

Back in 2012, the FBI decided Manafort's actions did not warrant prosecution. Now, suddenly he needs to go down for it. The judge -- correctly -- is cast a skeptical eye toward Mueller, demanding that he justify Manafort's prosecution on it's own merits, and not simply as something that he hopes will lead to dirt on Trump.

Not really what the judge said at all, but okay.

a reply to: burntheships

The FBI knew all about Manafort way back in 2012 and beyond.

So you admit that the FBI knew people in Trumps circle were dirty back in 2012?

Is it such a huge leap of logic to think that maybe, just maybe, Manafort wasn’t the only one being looked at? Manafort and Trump have known each other since the 1990’s. Maybe longer.

In 1980, Manafort, Charles Black, and Roger Stone (all Ronald Reagan campaign officials) opened a lobbying shop in Washington, D.C. One of their very first clients: Donald Trump, who employed the lobbying firm of Black, Manafort & Stone through the early 1990s.

www.slate.com...

a reply to: xuenchen

Trump even knew that the NY Attorney General was "dirty", way back in 2013. Strange that no one is coming to that guy's defense. Not even his buddy Chuckee Schumer.

a reply to: underwerks

Imagine the backlash if the FBI/whoever came out in the run up to the election with this information

Yup, this was spoken about in a lot of articles over the weekend
Damned if you do speak up (the election is riiiiigged !), damned if you don't

I remember Obama demanding, way back in that summer,
that 'the agencies' refrain from "releasing things"
to the press that could lead to claims of favorism

At that time, Trump supporters here were absolutely frothing about Clinton...

Maybe aliens what we're hearing now
is the stuff that we didn't want outed back in 2016

That's a head spinner !

originally posted by: Cassi3l
a reply to: underwerks

Imagine the backlash if the FBI/whoever came out in the run up to the election with this information

Yup, this was spoken about in a lot of articles over the weekend
Damned if you do speak up (the election is riiiiigged !), damned if you don't

I remember Obama demanding, way back in that summer,
that 'the agencies' refrain from "releasing things"
to the press that could lead to claims of favorism

At that time, Trump supporters here were absolutely frothing about Clinton...

Maybe aliens what we're hearing now
is the stuff that we didn't want outed back in 2016

That's a head spinner !

I feel dirty saying this, but whoever decided to keep info under wraps (if that’s what happened) and not interfere with Trump winning the election did the right thing.

Waiting until after the election and then doing an investigation seems the smarter play.