The Nimitz story in the former OMF forum

a reply to: IsaacKoi

Did you ever find Cometa and with him, TFT's missing powerpoint for the TicTac event?

a reply to: The GUT

Do you still keep in contact with the TheFinalTheory?

Just wondering if he has said anymore on the Tic Tac event

a reply to: JackFrostvc

Not privately lately. It all kind of dead-ended as far as "proofs" or additional pertinent information.

A wilderness of mirrors. Welcome to Ufology.

a reply to: The GUT

That's a pity he never found the TicTac event powerpoint.

a reply to: The GUT


Do you think you can pass on a few questions to TFT?
I would really appreciate it. Perhaps you could then post the answers here

I would like to know his opinion on the differences between Fravor's Tic Tac account, and what it says in TFT's leaked Event Summary.

Particularly these differences:

1) Fravor claims that he saw the Tic Tac over the water disturbance
TFT's Event Summary says the Tic Tac was seen by Fravor 5Nm west from the water disturbance

2) Fravor claims the Tic Tac was ping ponging North - South and East - West
TFT's Event Summary doesn't mention any such account

3) Fravor said it was a perfect day and the object dissappeared in a blink of the eye
TFT's Event Summary says the object reached maybe Mach 1 and both Fravor and the jet flying high cover lost the object in HAZE

a reply to: JackFrostvc

Perhaps you could then post the answers here

That would be interesting.

After watching Lex Fridman interview Commander Fravor I thought I would post this here. Fravor actually says that he was sent an email in 2008 of a link to "Strangeland.com" (NSFW defunct website) in which this video resided. Lex was asking when it was first leaked, Lex is about to say 2007 but then Fravor interrupts him and says 2008-2009. So either someone grabbed this file from TFT's German link and uploaded it to Strangeland, or Fravor could be remembering incorrectly. You would think the guy who chased the thing would have been told where the first leak came from. No mention of ATS. Why are most (if not all) interviews about this not mentioning ATS?

Here is the video with timestamp:

Fravor continues to talk about CVIC (Carrier Intel Center) and how these guys landed a helicopter and said "hey we need the tapes" and he handed them the tapes. Fravor later got mad and knew this was a joke being pulled on him, so he went to Cvic and demanded the tapes back. The guy he approached was a junior and basically Fravor said "Give me the tapes or there will be trouble" (pulling rank here). Fravor said the guy just opened a filing cabinet and pulled out the tape and just handed it to him. It was not secure in a safe, just in an old filing cabinet.

Fravor copied the tapes. Two brand new 8mm tapes (Hi8). The original video is not some ten minute video, its literally 1min40 secs long, the same as we see but of course quality degrades with codecs and copying. Fravor doesnt know it was on ATS before. He thinks it was on Strangeland and then put onto YouTube (which is where I seen it back in the day).

a reply to: the_denv

It was good to listen to David Fravor being interviewed by Lex Fridman as he gave Fravor an opportunity to talk more about his job as a Navy pilot which gave his account of what happened more depth. You pointed out the two things that i found most interesting about this interview.

ATS never gets much of a mention in MSM. ATS is a bit like Stackoverflow, an unsung hero.