The Trump Administration Will Soon Prohibit Abortion Services At Federally Funded Clinics.

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: Cancerwarrior

what about the women who ends up going into labor let's say in the 17th week of pregnancy and begins to miscarry?
or the women who is found to have an ectopic pregnancy?
in some cases, just plain ole common sense tells you that you should start discussing abortion with the patient!!

God has a plan for those people, don’t you know??

Abortion is a sin and makes god angry.

But an infant with bone cancer, well that’s gods plan so it’s fine.

originally posted by: Cancerwarrior
a reply to: GraffikPleasure

The fact that people are still arguing over this speaks more to the divide and conquer mentality than it does to logic and reason.

This is the 21st century. There are many, many options for birth control in this day and age that don’t require killing a baby.

If women would stop throwing caution to the wind and utilize their birth control options BEFORE thy get pregnant (they used to call this personal responsibility) there would be no need for them to use murder as a form of birth control.

Well, I have news for you: NO birth control is 100% effective. Condoms, for example, can be 96 to 98% effective but only when used correctly. Since in the real world people make mistakes all the time, the real effectiveness of condoms is 85%, because they are not used properly. That's 15 unplanned pregnancies per 100.

The pill is 92% effective. The Merina IUD is meant to be 99% effective and I got pregnant with it, it worked well for two years and then I got pregnant, when I didn't want to (and the fruit of the Merina's failure is now 14 and spends all my money lol).

You cannot blame carelessness for most unwanted pregnancies, common sense and public health knowledge shows us there are too many factors to simply point the fingers at females for being simply irresponsible.

a reply to: carewemust Well that's mighty Christian of them, thinking about the taxpayers not wanting to have their tax money spent on killing babies before they are born, as you say. I guess those good ol taxpayers would rather have their tax money spent on killing babies after they are born in senseless corporate ordained wars fought for greed and control.

We need to be a country with morals. This is a start.

Let's see what the courts have to say! Trump is predictably riling up his misogynist base for the midterms. Nothing gets Christian ISIS more riled up than the thought of controlling women's bodies.

a reply to: Chadwickus

Abortion is a sin and makes god angry.

He didn't mind it so much in the Old Testament, though. Jesus didn't get into it either.

originally posted by: Chadwickus

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: Cancerwarrior

what about the women who ends up going into labor let's say in the 17th week of pregnancy and begins to miscarry?
or the women who is found to have an ectopic pregnancy?
in some cases, just plain ole common sense tells you that you should start discussing abortion with the patient!!

God has a plan for those people, don’t you know??

Abortion is a sin and makes god angry.

But an infant with bone cancer, well that’s gods plan so it’s fine.

Why is it always the atheists that bring religion into these discussions?

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: Chadwickus

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: Cancerwarrior

what about the women who ends up going into labor let's say in the 17th week of pregnancy and begins to miscarry?
or the women who is found to have an ectopic pregnancy?
in some cases, just plain ole common sense tells you that you should start discussing abortion with the patient!!

God has a plan for those people, don’t you know??

Abortion is a sin and makes god angry.

But an infant with bone cancer, well that’s gods plan so it’s fine.

Why is it always the atheists that bring religion into these discussions?

Because...Mike Pence!

Oh well...an other country on the list for women on waves.

Peace

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: Chadwickus

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: Cancerwarrior

what about the women who ends up going into labor let's say in the 17th week of pregnancy and begins to miscarry?
or the women who is found to have an ectopic pregnancy?
in some cases, just plain ole common sense tells you that you should start discussing abortion with the patient!!

God has a plan for those people, don’t you know??

Abortion is a sin and makes god angry.

But an infant with bone cancer, well that’s gods plan so it’s fine.

Why is it always the atheists that bring religion into these discussions?

Could it be because Christian dogma is a large part of conservative thinking?

I just realized something else. Most pharmacies receive federal funding through Medicare and Medicaid. Most pharmacies also stock and dispense abortifacients. So are the elderly and poor no longer going to be able to afford their drugs?

a reply to: Chadwickus

But an infant with bone cancer, well that’s gods plan so it’s fine.

I'm glad to hear that, because many of the university hospitals also offer abortion services and at least in my home town, that's where most of the doctors would send the little tyke to for the specialized tests and treatments that weren't available locally.
I know they think that their laws, rules and regulations will only effect planned parenthood, but the justifications they are using that somehow those gov't reimbursements are funding the abortions that are also being provided at the facility would be true for far too many providers, like those university hospitals I mentioned, that are providing extremely sick people with lifesaving care, many of who's healthcare is subsidized by the gov't!!

Turning out healthcare system catholic one stupid rule, law, and regulation at a time...
soon women might be hearing what Savita Halappanavar heard as her healthcare system slowly killed her through their self righteous neglect... "We are a catholic nation."

It's amazing seeing the arguments for the killing of babies. It's like I'm in bizarro world.

originally posted by: jjkenobi
It's amazing seeing the arguments for the killing of babies. It's like I'm in bizarro world.

Nobody is advocating killing babies.
They just disagree when the pile of cells is considered a baby.

originally posted by: jjkenobi
It's amazing seeing the arguments for the killing of babies. It's like I'm in bizarro world.

I'm glad you're reading them. You may learn something if you open your mind.

a reply to: dawnstar

It's going to be hilarious how fast this is repealed once a member of Congress is forced to pay out of pocket because their insurance is federally funded.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

and if it's true that the money that they get in reimbursements for those drugs that are covered by these gov't programs somehow subsidizes them so they can provide more of those drugs not covered by those programs......
ummm.... shouldn't those drug stores be sanctioned for selling those other drugs? like viagra for example??

a reply to: dawnstar

Insurance shouldn't cover boner pills either nor should federal funding.
I know an old guy that sells his to his grandson.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

I didn't think of that one... but I am sure they will make sure that this won't effect their options...
I mean does anything they do actually affect them directly?
indirectly, though, they might not be able to avoid the fallout if the providers cave to this when their wife, daughter, niece, ect becomes pregnant and something goes sideways and the doctor giving her care is barred from telling her that her safest option is to terminate the pregnancy.

originally posted by: the owlbear
Yay!
Looks like instead of "killing babies", the money will be spent on fetuses that never were checked up on during gestation.

Droves of malformed children that white Christendom won't adopt, but not let the suffering end before it begins.

Every person that votes against abortion should have to take care of a vegetable child, or one that just screams cuz its in constant pain as it has no face but needs to breathe. One week.
Guaranteed their position would change.

Yeah, because let's take the burdon off of the parents of said child and make it someone else's child. Sound argument you provide. Responsibility be damned.