Israel exposes Iranian lies and weakness in U.S. intelligence.

The article is from Bloomberg. It addresses The Israeli theft of Iranian warehouse nuclear weapons plans. Saved, apparently for future use?

The Israeli announcement has been largely unmentioned in the recent threads. It seems to give relevant information that supports Israeli claims, but in all honesty, I'd like to see more, even published copies. That would help solidify Trump's case and slightly lower the decibel level of those against the move.

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Bottom line is "more, please".

Well, it makes sense that Israel would have a higher stake in good intelligence. They have death knocking on their doorstep.

that's what happens when partisan hacks have infiltrated the highest levels of government and they no longer do their job they just serve the party

originally posted by: Metallicus
Well, it makes sense that Israel would have a higher stake in good intelligence. They have death knocking on their doorstep.

At the least, Israeli espionage has pointed out that the cough, cough, loose and charitable 'agreement' does not remotely do justice to the actual intentions of Iran.

In my view, it confirms that Trump's action is appropriate.

a reply to: nwtrucker

I would not believe a word of what the zionist israeli regime says.

originally posted by: Titan6669
a reply to: nwtrucker

I would not believe a word of what the zionist israeli regime says.

So what?

originally posted by: Titan6669
a reply to: nwtrucker

I would not believe a word of what the zionist israeli regime says.

Sure, you would totally trust Iran’s Islamic Republic of Persia over our actual allies. Sounds delusional, but thanks for sharing your ignorance.

a reply to: Metallicus

Actual allies?

9/11, spying on the U.S and the USS Liberty, would show that they aren't allies.

I don't trust any government. All governments are run by folks who already belong to a club composed of their own, and none of us are invited past cannon fodder.

Look over the 20th century, lies upon lies, upon more lies; is the real root cause for most conflicts; economic motivations are the real causes.

So when we especially look at the case of Israel, with their illegal nuclear weapons program; the pot's calling the kettle black.

originally posted by: BigNutz
I don't trust any government. All governments are run by folks who already belong to a club composed of their own, and none of us are invited past cannon fodder.

Look over the 20th century, lies upon lies, upon more lies; is the real root cause for most conflicts; economic motivations are the real causes.

So when we especially look at the case of Israel, with their illegal nuclear weapons program; the pot's calling the kettle black.

I can agree that all gov'ts lie and the 20th is replete with those lies. Then the lies cancel each other out. I choose a side. The side I choose is Israel's. Iran is covertly doing the same thing as Israel did in the day with their nukes.

Israel wants survival. Iran wants more than mere survival. For me, no contest.

The only other point is the U.S. restrains both of them.

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The side I choose, is the realization that a.) this is a temporal world; we know only one guarantee after birth. b.) we're here with collective amnesia.

For myself, when faced with these real conundrums, there's no way I'll let any bureaucrat try to ply my hand to violence for any reason; their motivation isn't our well being; it's the furthest from it.

originally posted by: Black_Fox
a reply to: Metallicus

Actual allies?

9/11, spying on the U.S and the USS Liberty, would show that they aren't allies.

Hmmm, then would you trust Saudi Arabia supporting the U.S. withdrawing? The U.A.E. supporting the U.S.? Baraine supporting the U.S. in it's decision? Of course, Turkey is against it which is another endorsement from my point of view.

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originally posted by: BigNutz
a reply to: nwtrucker

The side I choose, is the realization that a.) this is a temporal world; we know only one guarantee after birth. b.) we're here with collective amnesia.

For myself, when faced with these real conundrums, there's no way I'll let any bureaucrat try to ply my hand to violence for any reason; their motivation isn't our well being; it's the furthest from it.

In general, I concur. If I was in Israel's shoes, I would fight for the survival of my nation. Not all fights are bureaucrat based. Maybe most, but not all. I'm not in this fight. And a fight there is. I prefer Israel winning. That's all I'm saying.

Come on , use your own intelligence here. NO and I mean no muslim nation in the world is going to nuke Israel. One of their most holiest sites sits right in the middle of Israel, so call off all this doom porn.

originally posted by: crayzeed
Come on , use your own intelligence here. NO and I mean no muslim nation in the world is going to nuke Israel. One of their most holiest sites sits right in the middle of Israel, so call off all this doom porn.

One of the most holy sites? Really? Built right on top of a Jewish temple. 'Holy' due that fact alone.

Just how many Muslim leaders are devote Muslims? How many are, in fact, secular in everything they do- no different than our own politicians- and woudn't hesitate to nuke Israel?

Nice try. They'd say 'God's will'. Shrug and rebuild.

No ,no that there site is where Muhammad ascended to heaven (like Jesus) and no muslim will ever, ever damage that site.
That IS what all this is about. It's not that muslims don't like jews, it's because Israel controls their holiest site.
If the jews had a country elsewhere they wouldn't even mention them, let alone want to wipe them out.

originally posted by: crayzeed
No ,no that there site is where Muhammad ascended to heaven (like Jesus) and no muslim will ever, ever damage that site.
That IS what all this is about. It's not that muslims don't like jews, it's because Israel controls their holiest site.
If the jews had a country elsewhere they wouldn't even mention them, let alone want to wipe them out.

Garbage. You need to educate yourself of Levant. it's origins, it's goal. As Obama labelled it. ISIL. One super-state. Already divvied up with who runs what part. No room for an Israel smack in the middle of that superstate. No room for a 'Palestine' for that matter.

Israel made every concession demanded of it and Arafat walked away. Israel gone is the goal. The 'Holy Site' is the excuse.

a reply to: nwtrucker

Best comment realistically speaking in future of time lines.

originally posted by: crayzeed
No ,no that there site is where Muhammad ascended to heaven (like Jesus) and no muslim will ever, ever damage that site.
That IS what all this is about. It's not that muslims don't like jews, it's because Israel controls their holiest site.
If the jews had a country elsewhere they wouldn't even mention them, let alone want to wipe them out.

Yet, Hamas launched missiles at Israel's nuclear plant. You presume much to think no Muslim would nuke Israel. There are lunatics out there.yes?

So look at this story from 1000 feet above...

I$rael, who won't even confirm that they have a nuclear stockpile, publishes a story, a DETAILED story about covert actions against a foreign country.

Wag the dog much?