Killing me softly with his fries...killing me softly...with his fries...

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

I get it, but there are better ways to send that message. I can see those kids tossing out lots of good stuff in later years because of what he just got done teaching them.

a reply to: ketsuko

Very good point
I know people in their 40's who wouldn't know what making a stock involves, they throw loads away, while there is pretty much zero food waste in my house, potato peelings etc, egg shells, bones.
The bigger worry for me is the amount of people who don't even cook anymore, just heat processed things up in an oven, or microwave. I taught my son to cook as I brought him up, as an activity together, he's early twenties now and a better cook than his partner, she just heats things up but is learning off my lad and enjoying actual cooking together.

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

www.google.com...

Don't be so quick with the criticism . Brits aren't far behind

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

We're massively behind you with GM food. (1) It is not grown commercially in the UK (2) GM food is banned for human consumption in the UK/EU (3) The only use of GM products is in animal feeds (4) UK organic farms truly are organic, there is zero cross contamination/pollination with GM crops, unlike the US where some organic farms are struggling to stay GM free.
You can paint whatever picture you like but the situation with food generally in the US is dire, it is why so much of it is banned in the rest of the world.
Sorry buddy.

It's disgusting and I agree whole-heartedly.

They produce and sell food with addictive qualities that will make us sick. We're then prescribed meds that put a Band-Aid on the actual problem all the while giving us side effects which require additional meds. After a few years on the meds and meds from side-effects and side-effects for which there are no meds, surgery and/or hospitalization is required, which means more meds and so on. Meanwhile if you take a look at the American Medical Society, many of the board members are also top executives at companies like McDonald's, KFC, Wendy's and other fast food chains. Also major brands that we find in our grocery stores have executives with "special interest". The medical industry (disease-care industry), our major food organizations and our pharmaceutical companies are all in on it together. They shove massive amounts of protein down our throats all the while knowing it causes cancer. They tell us to drink milk knowing that we're the only species on the planet who drinks the milk from a different species long after we are weaned. Wonder why so many people are lactose intolerant? After weaning our bodies expel the enzyme responsible for breaking down the sugars in milk because we no longer need it. Meanwhile, milk actually causes a depletion in calcium. Low on calcium? have more dairy. Still low? Take these supplements. Side-effects? Let's go see a battery of specialists... Very sad.

This guy has a vice screwed down on his thumb and he goes to his doctor complaining that his thumb is killing him. The doctor takes a look and advises him to go home and take some Ibuprofen and Tylenol, and to call him if the pain doesn't go away. A few days later the pain is not as bad but it still hurts enough to warrant another visit. The doctor looks again and advises him to get an MRI of the area, which he does. A day or two later the doctor says nothing showed up on the MRI and he prescribes him some anti-inflammatory meds and advises PT. The guy follows his orders but he's still got severe pain in his thumb and he's now experiencing some nausea. This time the doctor doesn't address the pain in his thumb but he hands him another prescription for the nausea. He also advises him that in a day or two if the nausea isn't alleviated he could refer him to and internal specialists for some testing. This is the story of our medical system. Always throwing a #ing Band-Aid on the problem instead of finding the actual root cause.

What they never tell you is that by the time you experience the symptoms, it's too late.

a reply to: Skorpiogurl
cool post, nice one

a reply to: Skorpiogurl

Here's the thing:

Don't like it? Don't eat it.

Dairy has been a survival food for many cultures for centuries ... longer. It's not like the modern food lobby suddenly decided to milk cows and introduce it in the modern diet.

Just like many cultures also eat (or ate) some form of product based off of an animal's blood. Tribes in Africa will, in fact, tap major veins on their cattle and drink it straight off even today. It is a survival food and part of their culture. But you still find blood product throughout Asia and Europe even today in traditional foods.

All it takes is a little research and effort on your part to avoid highly processed stuff and too much sugar. But I think you cross the line when you talk about engineering away parts of the human diet that have darn near always existed since we've been human.

a reply to: ketsuko

Well here's the thing. I do agree with you and understand what you're saying, but this is not centuries ago, this is 2018 and with our research, knowledge and technology these industries could and should do better. They take nutrition and dumb it down for the general population to make a profit.

Think about all of the (400+) fad diets that have come and gone. All supposedly science based, proven, peer researched and even encouraged by doctors. Fat is bad, everything needs to be low or no fat. Never mind, fat is good now, but only healthy fats. Don't eat carbs! No, eat carbs because it's your bodies preferred source of energy. The average person only needs about 0.32g of protein per LB of body fat, yet we have "science" telling us to eat way more than is necessary... because hey, everyone know that excess protein will make you swole! Bull-#. Cabbage soup anyone? How about Apple Cider Vinegar? Tumeric is awesome and years ago smoking was good for you too!

Listen, I don't tell people what to eat or what not to eat (unless the pay me for that service) and I'm the very last person to demonize and/or eliminate entire food groups. I'm simply agreeing with the OP and expressing my opinion on the matter.

It is much easier to believe that things must be genetic or inherited and I know that when someone is in pain, they just want it to stop, and that usually comes in the form of a pill. I get it. I also understand that for the most part people just really truly don't understand a thing about nutrition. And why should they? Ya know... some poor workin slob who has put in way too many hours, picks up their kids from school, does the school activity # and is dead tired... last thing they want to do is go home and cook a fresh, clean, whole and healthy balanced meal. Nope, off to the drive through because it's fast, cheap and easy. Problem is years later when the medical bills pile up and they're wondering why.

Typical client conversation:
Client: I don't know why I feel so sick and bloated and no matter what I do I can't lose weight!
LN: What does your diet look like? how many calories are you consuming a day? What's your daily activity like?
Client: I think I eat pretty healthy. I don't eat sugar or carbs or fat or gluten.
LN: Are you gluten intolerant? Have you been tested?
Client: No.
LN: How may calories do you eat a day?
Client: I'm not sure but it can't be that much.
LN: Do you have a workout routine?
Client: I wish! I don't have the time.

Do you see where this is going? And that's just a very small piece of the problem.

I have done years of research as required by my license. I can tell you with much certainty that the parts of the human diet that have darn near existed since we've been human are very non-human these days. Like when they say today's wheat isn't your grandfathers wheat? It's true, for real, not even made up!

If someone doesnt know that today's food is not what their grandparents or even their parents ate, they must be the dumbest in the world.

food GM'ed in the lab is a VERY recent discovery [perhaps some less than 100 years, right?] and we simply don't have enough data to see the effects it has on the body. We're used to eating milk for hundred of years and even cats and dogs eat it and they're fine [my cat screams at me for milk every morning and he's fine].
Wheat was not originally in our diets, but now we eat wheat as if it was the best food ever.

We eat painted tomatoes because it's not enough to eat them in season, and we wonder why they have no taste and no nutritional value.

originally posted by: Kryscent
We eat painted tomatoes because it's not enough to eat them in season, and we wonder why they have no taste and no nutritional value.

All non GM in the UK and EU, maybe you can order them online?
Certainly get decent heirloom seeds from the UK, grow your own then.

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

Go back an reread the link I gave you and stop peddling lies about Britain being non-GM

www.express.co.uk...

2013 marked the year GM became especially prevalent in Britain, with supermarkets dropping their non-GM feed pledge, and Owen Paterson, the former Tory environment secretary saying "not a single" steak in Lodnon restaurants was not made from GM-fed cattle.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Everything I posted was factually correct.
(1) GM crops are not grown commercially in the UK
(2) GM food is banned for sale in the UK
(3) The only GM food used in the UK is animal feed for livestock.
(4) UK organic farms do not suffer from cross-polination by GM crops as US farms do.

Nothing I posted earlier was lies. Our seeds are GM free, heirloom is standard, and I buy my meat from non GM fed animals from my local organic farm. There are many in the UK, and they won't be tainted by GM because it ain't grown here.

You seem angry that Britain isn't owned by Monsanto like the US is.
Go on, quote me and tell the class what lies I've presented.

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

The below ingredients,

White bread-wheat flour,maize starch,yeast,soy fibre,wheat gluten,vinegar,iodised salt,vegetable gum(412)soy flour,canola oil,emulsifier(418)thiamin,folate,egg 33 per cent,lettuce 10 per cent,free range egg mayonnaise 9 per cent,canola oil,egg,vinegar,mustard,lemon juice,acidity regulator,(330)spices,natural color,margarine(vegetable oil contains soy)emulsifier(471,322)milk solids,black pepper salt,

IS AN EGG AND LETTUCE SANDWICH FROM 7-11

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

DOUBLE POST

a reply to: khnum

I bet it's similar in UK supermarket sandwiches, I'll have a look tomorrow.
It's mad how much stuff we eat which isn't actually food, just chemicals to keep the food 'fresh' for X many days.

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

Im envious of your situation all grain in Australia is now GMO which affects many food chains,with meat it has to be grass fed,antibiotic and hormone free before Ill eat it,of course you pay for it.I avoid bakery products anyway because of the link between wheat and dementure etc as outlined by Doctor Perlmutter in his book Grain Brain and his other book Brain Maker which is about microbe gut health,the current science is verifying that the commonly accepted food pyramid etc and dietary advice is not only wrong but probably dangerous as well,which is pretty obvious by the amount of fat,sick people out there.

a reply to: khnum

It took a lot of effort and time in police cells mate.
I was just one of thousands of people who destroyed Monsanto's test crops causing them to pull out.
The cops told Monsanto that they would have to pay for their own security, and private security in the UK cannot even carry sticks so sheer activist numbers overwhelmed them. They lost the battle, the people won. The company moved on to less defiant nations.

As in discussion with another member above, the majority of our livestock ARE fed on imported GM grain, but it is not hard to avoid with so many organic farms, but the key thing is that all plant food grown in the UK is non-GM.
Britain is small though so as activists we were able to just jump on a short train ride to go destroying test crops.
Much harder in the massive land mass that is Australia I guess.

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

Unfortunately we've had it too good here for too long,the only people really upset about this development were the farmers themselves,things like this never get into the news here,most Australians are happy with a stadium and a 6 pack.Things are changing though energy costs,petrols costs and other manifestations of poor government are starting to wake people from their slumber.

originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

Unfortunately we've had it too good here for too long,the only people really upset about this development were the farmers themselves,things like this never get into the news here,most Australians are happy with a stadium and a 6 pack.Things are changing though energy costs,petrols costs and other manifestations of poor government are starting to wake people from their slumber.

Plenty of apathy in the UK, but civil disobedience is strong here. I got arrested 12 times I think destroying test crops, didn't once go to court, just released with either no further action or a caution. Most cops were actually on our side to be honest, they didn't want GM crops either, I remember a cop saying to me something like 'let other countries be the crash test dummy's instead of us'.

It was a massive victory for the people over a massive corporation, and I'll do it again if they try it on again.

It's just marketing strategy i.e, to go global you have to go local. It's not what they are selling,it's what Americans like. What if all of the sudden every single one of us stop consuming it then what happen. They have to adapt according our taste bud.
Stop blaming and start a healthy diet