Giant sea serpent: incident at Stinson Beach in 1983

Don't forget "Champ!" The Lake Champlain Monster.

Champ

Lake Champlain Monster

a reply to: Masterjaden

good point. I missed that. still I'm a bit skeptical of the dimensions proclaimed.

never heard of modern sightings of these things, pretty cool

a reply to: JoshuaCox
Her daughter wasn’t at work with her, and didn’t witness the sea creature. Her daughter went to the site the day after and spoke to the media about her mother’s siting; thereby confusing ppl into thinking that she was one of the witnesses.

“she had gone home and told her children, “never to go in the water” down by Stinson Beach (and understandably so!). The following day, Marlene’s daughter had gone back to the site where her mother had been the day before, looking for her mother to talk with her. Although Martin was not at the site at that time, a group of reporters had gathered, at which time Marlene’s daughter apparently spoke to the press, albeit briefly, about the incident, and what her mother had told her.”

“Why should we doubt sea serpents. I’d like to know: the seas cover two thirds of the earth, and they are big enough and deep enough to hide any number of mysteries.”


great stories here www.denvermichaels.net...

found link on the Anomalist :

"A Photograph from 2006 Loch Ness Mystery

Glasgow Boy offers an intriguing photo taken 12 years ago at the Loch, which shows something elongated and dark moving on the water. Deblurring techniques don't give enough enhancement and the comments that follow it are the expected mixture of enthusiasm vs skepticism."

"Reclaiming the Loch Ness Monster from the current tide of debunking and scepticism. If you believe there is something strange in Loch Ness, read on."

"I can't really judge size on water, its not my speciality, but it was HUGE. It looked like a whale. I would say it was grey like an elephant with a neck that was swinging side to side over the water. That was really what it looked like, an elephant waving its trunk. There was a huge commotion in the water behind it. The thing was just massive. It was swimming back toward Inverness the way we came. "

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See pictures and story here >>> lochnessmystery.blogspot.co.uk...

hey keeping this enjoyable thread going.

here is a link to a site containing several sea monster stories from Australia. the first sighting discussed is very detailed in the description of the creature. Interestingly many of the stories describe a giant eel like creature. could giant eels really exist? its plausible in my opinion and is something one should consider in regard to this subject. .

www.unexplainedaustralia.com...

It is very possible there are big unknown see creatures out there. It could have also been a smaller creature that got mutated so it kept growing. I do not discount anything like this unless I know the person personally and they are kind of nuts or are prone to creating things to look impressive. I've known more than a few people like that through my lifetime so far.

A Look Back at the 1962 Pensacola Florida Sea Serpent Incident (see link and pictures below)

This story is one of my favorites...a live witness tells the tale of a "b" rated movie incident.
The account is pure horror.

this is a quote from the full article below:

"The May 1965 issue of FATE magazine featured the story “My Escape from a Sea Monster”, written by one Edward Brian McCleary. This was his supposedly true eyewitness account of himself and 4 friends being attacked by a “sea monster” of some sort off the coast of Pensacola, Florida on March 24, 1962. His four friends were allegedly either killed by this thing or drowned, McCleary being the only survivor. Previous Cryptomundo posts about this incident are to be found here: Death by Sea Serpent? and here: What’s Eating You? Florida’s Hungry Sea Serpent Revisited. McCleary and his friends were supposedly attempting to dive on the wreck of a ship called the U.S.S. Massachusetts and became lost in a fog when this “monster” attacked them. I suggest you read those before proceeding further.

Part 1 cryptomundo.com...
Part 2 cryptomundo.com...

Or just start from the beginning cryptomundo.com...

anyway...I've sailed in the gulf of Mexico...from Tampa to Galvinston Tx...just me and one other dude...and I thought about that account ...a lot



That is a spooky place...the Gulf of Mexico

Oh...I just found this

Seems like the Stinson Beach sea serpent is # 1

listverse.com...

a reply to: BASSPLYR

This is Bill and Bob Clark. We just found this thread and we are willing to talk about our sightings and videos of sea serpents in SF Bay. You can also find out a lot of information about our sightings as well as other sightings in SF Bay and the Bay area since 1875 by going to our blog.

First, the animals we have seen in SF Bay are definitely not oarfish.

Our first sighting on February 5, 1985 was our closest and best sighting of one of the animals. The animal beached itself on a submerged rocky ledge that was covered by about 3 feet of water. The animal was only 20 yards away from us and directly in front of us. We saw the entire animal except for its tail exposed above the surface of the water when it twisted its body to get off the submerged rocky ledge and back into deeper water.

We have also gotten 3 lengthy videos of the animals. Two are about 3 1/2 minutes in length and one is about 7 minutes in length. We have examined all three and contrary to what biased skeptics, debunkers and others say, they contain enough data to prove that sea serpents exist.

We are glad to answer any questions people have.

a reply to: billandbobclark

excellent!

first of all welcome to this thread and ats.

second I'm glad you are here because it sounds like you have further evidence of the creatures in your sightings. and, because reports alone often don't do justice to what the witnesses saw. (i know this from first hand experience myself) talking directly to the witnesses and being able to converse with them yields a much better understanding of what they saw.

finally, so I don't paint myself as an skeptic let me go on record saying I believe cryptid animals exist including some cases of sea serpent like creatures. at worst I'm an agnostic when it comes to the subject. but have seen things myself that the public doesn't generally believe. even reported some of it here on various threads at ats.

I'm going to check out your blog. in the meantime could you please describe the details on this thread of the animals you saw. color, fins, scales or skin, eyes etc. disposition. those sort of details.


also, in your mind what order or family do you think the animals belong in. fish, amphibians, reptile etc. and what's the closest known animal you think they are most closely related to or resembling.

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Lassiecomehome

A) why was her daughter with her at work on a road crew.

There isn’t a large female road crew worker population. Let alone a mother daughter team, but not impossible or anything.

We talked to Marlene in person and interviewed her about her sighting.

Marlene was not part of the work crew. She was working for Caltrans and was in charge of the work crew. She told us her daughter wasn't with her at work the day of the sighting. Her daughter went to talk to Marlene the day after the sighting because reporters were bothering her daughter at their house but Marlene wasn't working at the site of the sighting that day.

B) why would her boss tell her to keep it quiet???

According to Marlene, there were so many reporters bothering the work crew that they couldn't get any work done for several days after the sighting so their boss told them to stop talking to the press about it or else he would fire them.

C) if there are 9 witnesses. What are the other 8s accounts??

According to Marlene, 2 of the eyewitnesses didn't want to talk to anyone about what they saw but the others described seeing the same type of animal. We tried to contact some of them but were unable to find them. We did find out that one of the eyewitnesses, Matt Ratto was killed in a construction accident a few years after the sighting.

However, there were more than 9 eyewitnesses. On December 12, 2000 another eyewitness called Coast to Coast AM when the subject of sea serpents was being discussed. She said she and her female friend were sitting in the first car the work crew stopped while the crewmen were removing rocks from the road. She said she heard a crewman talking on a two way radio to another crewman who was further down the road. She heard them talking about a strange animal that was heading their way so she and her friend got out of their car and went over to the cliff side and watched the animal along with a lot of other people who had gotten out of their cars to see what was swimming their way. From what she said there may have been as many as 2 dozen people who saw the animal.

BTW, Bob also talked on Coast to Coast AM that night about our February 5, 1985 sighting.

D) they were close enough to see teeth?!?!

If they needed binoculars to see it. iDK about being able to make out teeth...

Marlene also told us she was the only eyewitness who saw the animal's teeth when she watched it through binoculars. She said the animal raised its head and a portion of its body several feet out of the water, leaned its head back then opened its mouth exposing many sharp teeth in both the upper and lower jaws.

Since we have seen the animals, we have no reason not to believe that Marlene is telling the truth and that she did see the animal's teeth.

in the meantime could you please describe the details on this thread of the animals you saw. color, fins, scales or skin, eyes etc. disposition. those sort of details.

We will post the description of what we saw but we always ask people to read our blog first because we have posted the description of the animals there so it saves us the time of having to repeat it to people.

also, in your mind what order or family do you think the animals belong in. fish, amphibians, reptile etc. and what's the closest known animal you think they are most closely related to or resembling.

The closest is a reptile but we know it is an unknown type of animal. It looked more like a "dragon" than any known animal.

originally posted by: Lassiecomehome

In August of 2009 another witness saw something unexplainable in the bay while riding in a car. According to her description, a child in the car said he saw something in the water. She turned to look and observed an “enormous sea serpent in silhouette against the dark water and night sky with it's head and neck section poised out of the water at least six feet, whiskers, or appendages on its head”. She could clearly see the eyes and it was not too far from the shoreline, and was stationary in the water with two large coils rising behind it,” according to the witness. The arches rose behind the head and neck roughly four feet high, then the head moved slightly back and forth but the rest of the animal remained stationary in the water, the witness said. She only saw it for a brief period as the car sped past but she had no doubt about what she saw."

The date of August, 2009 is incorrect. That is the date the eyewitness made the drawing. The correct date of the sighting was some time in 1985.

The eyewitness was Tisa Walden, a famous beat poet.

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: billandbobclark
... so I don't paint myself as an skeptic...I'm going to check out your blog. in the meantime could you please describe the details on this thread of the animals you saw. color, fins, scales or skin, eyes etc. disposition. those sort of details.

We have no problem with someone who is a skeptic. It's the biased skeptics who "know" it's impossible for sea serpents to exist that we have a problem with.

As far as describing what the animal looks like, here's a description of the animal we saw compared to what an oarfish looks like.

An oarfish has a red serrated mane running down its entire length on the top of its body.

The animal we saw had no mane at all along the upper body and midsection of the body.

An oarfish is silver in color.

The animal we saw was black in color the entire length of its upper body which we estimated was at least 30 feet.

The midsection was black on top then changed colors along the sides from a mossy green to a grassy green then to a yellow green where the sides of the midsection met the underbelly.

The rear body was the same color black as the upper body.

An oarfish has a thin uniform in length body and no underbelly.

The animal we saw has a tubular shaped upper body then it widens where the midsection begins and then where the rear portion begins it tapers towards the tail.

The midsection has a padded, leathery underbelly which is whitish in color with a slight tint of yellow. It is segmented and the edges where each segment ends and begins created a distinct line that was easily seen.

An oarfish has a big round eye on each side of its head.

The animal we saw had two eyes in the front of its head which were set back beneath some kind of brow.

An oarfish has a tapering beak-like pointed snout.

The animal we saw had a snout similar to a German Shepard's snout except the animal's snout was not pointed like the end of a German Shepard's snout. Instead, it had a squared off snout with two slightly oval shaped nostrils at the front end of it that were about the size of a man's fist.

An oarfish does not have fan-like fins that open and close.

The animal we saw had fan-like fins on the sides of the beginning and end of the midsection which opened and closed.

An oarfish does not have hexagonal shaped scales.

The animal we saw has hexagonal shaped scales on its midsection which varied in size with the smallest being at the top, the beginning and end of the midsection and getting larger in size the closer they got to the center of the midsection with the largest scales being at the center of the midsection where the midsection met the edge of the underbelly.

An oarfish does not have large jowls.

The animal we saw has large jowls similar to a horse's jowls.

An oarfish swims using slight horizontal undulations.

The animal we saw swims using vertical undulations and at times creates radical vertical undulations.

An oarfish cannot raise its body above the surface of the water straight up in the air.

The animal we saw on February 5, 1985 raised its body above the surface of the water approximately 10 feet straight up in the air.

An oarfish only comes to the surface when it is sick or dying.

The animal we saw was chasing a sea lion so it was very healthy and trying to get something to eat.

That's just some of the differences between an oarfish and the animal my brother and I saw.

I would love for these things to be proven real. Would add more mystique and mystery to our oceans and open our minds to wonder once again should such a large creature be proven after all this time.

originally posted by: Puppylove
I would love for these things to be proven real.

Since sea serpents have been proven real to us, Marlene Martin, Tom D'Onofrio and many other eyewitnesses who have seen these animals, we have no doubt that someday they will be proven real to you and open-minded skeptics.

the video footage of the Clark brothers sighting is interesting.
to me I don't see a serpent but a flock of sonething. dolphins or porpoises maybe. perhaps even birds. to my eye it doesn't seem like a solid long creature but a group of somethings. they say the creature is very far away but in the video and with its resolution it's hard to get a good idea of the creatures distance. could be closer that they claim.

There is not just one animal in the video. There are several different animals in the first segment of the video then Bill moved to a different location and zoomed in on a different animal than those in the first segment of the video. He videotaped that animal until it made a looping turn. Then he videotaped another animal for a while before videotaping several more animals in the far distance.

Here's the link to Bruce Champagne's in-depth analysis of our first video in which he explains why what is in the video can't be dolphins, porpoises, sea lions, whales, a flock of birds or any other known marine animal or inanimate object.

Here's the link to some frames from our first video which we posted on our blog.

If you scroll down to the frame entitled "a still from our video before looping movement" it shows an original untouched frame from our video of the upper segment of the animal Bill videotaped before it made a looping turn.

Below that is the same frame from our video that we adjusted the contrast slightly darker so the shape of the upper segment of the animal can be seen better.

There are several more parts in the video where a long segment of the animal can be seen as it breaks the surface of the water for a split second.

After watching our video at normal speed, we suggest watching it at a slower speed than normal speed or frame by frame so any shaking is minimized and it is easier to see several large segments of the animals as they break the surface of the water.

As far as distance, we checked a map and Alcatraz Island is about 1 1/2 miles from the location where Bill took the video and Angel Island is about 3 miles from the location where Bill took the video.

Since the animals were between Alcatraz Island and Angel Island when Bill took the video, the animals had to be between 1 1/2 and 3 miles away from us.

My brother bow-fishes.
He bagged what appeared to be a giant minnow.
This was in a creek in Texas hill-country.
It was between 7 and 8 foot long. I would guess around 60 lbs.
Tasted like 3 day old gumbo. Very oily and fishy.
Not really what I would call "edible."
The raccoons, a.k.a. "trash pandas," cleaned it up.