Oh whoops AIDS is not what it seems.

originally posted by: anonentity
Then you have not bothered to sit through the vid and check if it is based on factual evidence , or something the guy just thought up to make a buck. Like he says when making statements you have to back it up with acceptable evidence from non impeachable sources, none of his sources lack credibility. This is not an emotional thought experiment, its do his facts meat the necessary requirements to bring thirty years of aids research into question.....that's of course for you to decide.

so you take no responsibility at all for verifying whether what you post is accurate, and expect others to do it for you?

or do you just lack the discernment to tell fantasy from reality and genuinely require assistance?

a reply to: rickymouse

But that is all in the short-term, as I said. Basically the earth is not a barren wasteland due to the depletion of nutrients from life that lived before.

It's renewed.

I think the human focus on creating mono-cultures in regards to agriculture is much more devastating to eco-systems than anything else, it isn't normal for eco-systems to have only one major lifeform, such as corn or potatoes, the oil palm tree is a great example.

It's something I've always had an interest in and it goes beyond just our agriculture habits. It has wide reaching effects on animal life too, or want and prevailence of desiring only a few useful animals on our lands. We want cows, sheep, pigs and chicken... Potatoes, corn, wheat etc. It all has an effect on the land that presumably lived in equilibrium for 1000's of years.

Invasive species ravage this planet and we happen to be the most invasive. We insist on creating our place in eco-systems, not learning our place.

Admittedly my post has drifted from nutrients a bit, especially the OP's point, it's all interconnected in the grand scheme of things though. Individual species of tree have their own individual species of fungus that have a special relationship with the host. It's such relationships that renew the eco-system, it's such relationships that we happen to take for granted all too much. And I dare say it's the destruction of said relationships that inevitably comes back to bite us in the rear with diseases and blight that ravage our artificially created eco-systems.

If we do not live "naturally" it becomes little wonder why we must supplement our diets beyond anything our ancestors must have once did. The Apple was never designed to fall far from the Apple tree.

A gift for those that seek healing.

Hulda Regehr Clark
I studied her work thoroughly 25 years ago and have yet to find her proven wrong yet. Just improved upon by some.

I just hate she used the word "cure" but i forgive her, her heart was right.

If you belong to a death cult DO NOT research her work!

a reply to: bulwarkz

Hulda Regehr Clark

Believe the woman who said she can cure cancer, but died of blood and bone cancer?

That’s hilarious!

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: [post=23341449]bulwarkz[/postulda Regehr Clark[/quotethesestatementshavenotbeenevaluatedbythefda.com...



what? You think reading 20 seconds of a wiki is research worthy of person who spent her life helping others
Some of us wonder about her death and motive behind it. She was 80 when she died. I am aware of the controversy and also aware of all those she helped

a reply to: RAY1990

When an animal eats, it does not go bathroom and have the minerals and fertilizers flow to a sewage plant mixed with unnatural chemicals then dumped elsewhere. Overall in nature, the materials are recycled on a local or semi-local basis. The animals die and everything stays there in the environment, even if the animal is eaten, the minerals are returned to the ground. We bury our remains in a coffin or toast them to ashes in an incinerator. Then the ashes are put into an urn. We strip the mineral rich clays and make pottery and cat litter off of them, then when broken or used send them to a landfill.

No other animal in nature has done this kind of stuff. We concentrate chemistry while depleating it. Cows are even fed unnatural chemistry and their manure is used to fertilize the fields, with traces of pesticides and herbicides in the excretions. The microbes that balance the soils are killed on a regular basis by commercial practices, these microbes are necessary to facilitate uptake of properly structured mineral and vitamin complexes into the plants.

There is nothing natural about the new system of commercial farming. Vast fields have been depleted from growing corn in some areas, nothing grows on them. My nephew just bought a house in Minnisota that was built on one of these fields, they had to haul in top soil so the grass would grow. The rest of the fields grow nothing, When the wind blows the dust blows around, fields that were taken out of service ten years ago are ruined....just to make corn gas.

I have seen what happens to the soils of potato fields after many years. They turn to dust and the plant defense system chemicals of the potato make the soil so it can't grow other things correctly for many years.

The rotation of crops do help, potatoes and oats help to restore molybdenum in the soil until all the molybdenum is extracted. As far as corn, they now make pellets out of the stocks to burn in places, that pulls more and more nutrients out of the soils because the stocks are removed. I like to see the plants growing in the fields but too much unnatural or unnaturally concentrated chemistry is being done in our environment.

Even with the huge chicken and beef processing plants, the guts are not returned to the earth and our poop is hauled through sewer plants to the rivers and into the lakes, laced with unnaturally created medicines and soaps. Using the organic matter created at the sewer plants is unwise, that stuff is made into a mulch added to topsoils. It is formed using corexit.

There is nothing natural about what man is doing to the environment. Small farms that utilize all the cow manure and use natural practices only slowly deplete the soils, mass production seems to be the culprit that causes the problems in our environment.

I grew up on a farm, We used to shake our heads at the big commercial farms spraying chemicals on everything. My father sprayed DDT and some other chemicals on the crops, only when needed though, we did not do it unless essential. Back then that was promoted. He was conned into believing all the banned chemicals were safe. He died at fifty years of age, he died from brain cancer. That brain cancer has been shown to have caused a lot of farmers to die as a direct result of DDT, that is why they banned it. The seven replacements for it have also been banned, one every seven or so years after each other. All have the same increased brain cancer risk, so does roundup. Brain cancer is not the only cancer that is increased by using these, but I do not remember which ones are, I remembered brain cancer for personal reasons. I sat on that tractor when he was spraying with a handkerchief around my face. I hate the smell of those chemicals, I can smell them on foods and choose to try to buy organic because of my dislike of the smell. I keep a bottle of malathion in my small garage as a reminder of my dad.

You have the right to believe what you want, I do not bash others for what they are doing, just inform them that they may have been led astray by people that profit by us being led astray. I have grown many gardens in my life, using natural things. What I have seen is that things grown naturally grow just as well as the commercial crap and it tastes much better. The plant defense chemicals are medicines to us in moderation, when you spray on pesticides, the plants do not have to create them. So the veggies get less flavorful. Sometimes though, the commercial treatment of crops is better than natural ones, I know some of the veggies that are better off with rock fertilizer and specific pesticides when used only when necessary. One of those is the potato. potatoes have strong plant defense system chemistry and if you eat quite a bit, potatoes can be better if grown by a farmer using rock fertilizers. You should never use cow manure or cow urine on potato plants, they grow all black on the ends.

Once you plant potatoes, it is hard to get rid of them from the garden to plant other veggies. Potatoes also break down rock and sand to get the nutrients available. A dandelion does a better job than the potato, they will even eat your sidewalk or rocks. The chemical they excrete to do this helps to prepare the area for other plants. Nature is actually pretty great at the way it works.

I have no problem with the genetic engineering that has been done to potatoes, it was done to stop pests and blights. Almost all commercial varieties of potato are genetically engineered. But since they did not cross the plant to microbe or plant to animal threshhold, they are not Officially GMO. They tied genes of other plants to the potato to accomplish what they want. Potatoes do not do as well if they use roundup, the alternative herbicide used to clear crab grass is safer.

There is a thing known as "witches butter" it is a natural output from various conifers such as Cedar, Pine, Juniper etc. that is a sort of fungi; that tastes sweet like a glycerin, that boosts T-cell production and helps aid against proliferation of them.

Please note; I am not a medical professional; nor a doctor that is qualified to treat anyone's perceived illness(es); my personal opinion is all illness is belief based not reality based and psychosomatic in the system or group in which accepts such a thing. As that sort of thing lowers one's defenses to seeing reality directly as it is in total; the group or hive mind enjoys gathering as it sees fit; I am not going to attack a beehive and tell them how to dance or separate pollen what flowers to go get; lol unless I was tasked to do such a thing; of course, I cannot say what those qualifications are as it like anything else requires learning and that of course takes one's time as one.

A poet figured that the birds were the next or last step in the spirit soaring; of course spearing one's heart on a thorn one simply changes their business suit for a new job as a bee as an ant as a fly larva cat or whatever where ever that consciousness ends up/whether awake or not to that being that one expresses as?

I honestly cannot say; and honestly do not want to...

a reply to: rickymouse

We're actually in agreement.

You're much more knowledgeable on the subject than I but we are talking about the same thing and coming up with the same conclusions, it's why I said "the apple was never designed to fall far from the apple tree" because simply put, it's chances of survival become a lot less the more foreign the habitat it happens to grow in.

We need to stop or drastically change how we source our food.

A river with 1 species of fish is a dead river, the more we look the more we find that our meddling has far-reaching consequences. Life needs equilibrium, nature is a deadly balance of things we've often failed to grasp.

We should learn a place not create it, we cannot replace everything in nature and it would be fool-hearty to even try.

But then ofcourse, we do have humans to feed, humans with a preconceived notion of what's edible and good and what's not. I mean I come from England, a nation that is somewhat destroyed in regards to what we're talking about.

Personally I'd happily live off rabbits and crayfish, they can be cooked right and are invasive species to these lands. I'll spare you on our hunting laws though. It's not necessarily legal or practical for me to live off such things.

But yeah we are in agreement and as always it's a pleasure to learn and interact with you.

a reply to: RAY1990


Knowing a place needs no learning in it... the old master of a house that likes twists and turns only spins a web or yarn that eventually traps oneself in; it is an ego trap of the worst kind. The one that renames everything or even bears them in mind; instead of simply using them as one knows them to be.


That's what the historical Buddha meant; when saying he kept running around the wheel of life; trying to find the "house builder" until he finally just sat and ceased the grasping and turning of the wheel; he turned it several times only to teach others the way out of the "house" he did not build... by shattering the windows, door and splitting the roof beam on the one he had built... the "he" was the one grasping all of that in through the five senses as learned by the ear; as one of the three poisons of greed, self and other, hate of self and other and using false speech learned by self from other.


What occurs... freedom from that chain; what occurs then? All of that grasping of the unknown as the known; however awareness still sees all of those still "running around." compassion and empathy does not surrender; as others have their own point otherwise they wouldn't be continually running around for whatever intent; personal or other for whatever ration to satisfy that craving or desire.

Some equate that too letting go and letting "god" that is also their choice to chase around. However a shadow, night or day does the same thing from a single point in the vastness of all being.

a reply to: bulwarkz

I’ve read more than 20 seconds on a wiki.

Let me ask. How long have you had cancer? How many of these “cures” have you tried?

Here’s my answer. My wife has cancer. She’s tried a lot of these “cures”. Guess what? She still has cancer. I wonder why that would be? Probably the same reason the idiots saying they can cure all diseases end up dying from a disease. They don’t work.

a reply to: BEBOG

Beyond the comprehension of man I know nothing.

I'm not Bhudda, I know nothing. I know what I want and need and the two are not mutually-inclusive. Life has a tendency to live regardless of external factors.

Admittedly I'm far off from what you are talking about, I'm not a rose grown from the concrete... I haven't even begun to sprout.

Nice song though.

originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: rickymouse

We're actually in agreement.

You're much more knowledgeable on the subject than I but we are talking about the same thing and coming up with the same conclusions, it's why I said "the apple was never designed to fall far from the apple tree" because simply put, it's chances of survival become a lot less the more foreign the habitat it happens to grow in.

We need to stop or drastically change how we source our food.

A river with 1 species of fish is a dead river, the more we look the more we find that our meddling has far-reaching consequences. Life needs equilibrium, nature is a deadly balance of things we've often failed to grasp.

We should learn a place not create it, we cannot replace everything in nature and it would be fool-hearty to even try.

But then ofcourse, we do have humans to feed, humans with a preconceived notion of what's edible and good and what's not. I mean I come from England, a nation that is somewhat destroyed in regards to what we're talking about.

Personally I'd happily live off rabbits and crayfish, they can be cooked right and are invasive species to these lands. I'll spare you on our hunting laws though. It's not necessarily legal or practical for me to live off such things.

But yeah

we are in agreement and as always it's a pleasure to learn and interact with you.

Yes, we were agreeing on most of the things, the only thing I wanted to explain is that we are destroying the soils because practible and responsible farming practices are no longer being used. They rewrote the book on practical and responsible farming practices.

Minerals like molybdenum and selenium can quickly become deficient in burn't out soils if they are not added back in. Same with other minerals and nutrients that are not included in fertilizers.

I remember how healthy the farms were fifty years ago and how much more flavor the corn and veggies had. Now, you are lucky if you get a good batch of green-beans when you go shopping, and if you do, you go right back and buy more before they get a new batch from a different farmer in. Once in a while a farmer will open up new land and start farming, the veggies that are grown are great. Trouble with commercial veggies is that many farmers contribute to the processing plants, so only occasionally you get a good batch. We had some really good corn come to a store here, kind of expensive though yet, fifty cents an ear. It was so good that we went back a day later and bought more. The second batch was just as good, by the end of the week they had a different batch, people were complaining because they should have got more

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

"PEAR"shaped...no biggie...just settin' the record straight.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: bulwarkz

I’ve read more than 20 seconds on a wiki.

Let me ask. How long have you had cancer? How many of these “cures” have you tried?

Here’s my answer. My wife has cancer. She’s tried a lot of these “cures”. Guess what? She still has cancer. I wonder why that would be? Probably the same reason the idiots saying they can cure all diseases end up dying from a disease. They don’t work.

The biggest problem healing almost always comes from the damaged organs from the dis-ease. One of the problems comes from very invasive treatments that include anti-inflammatories. Those things change the system that naturally occurs. Long term usage can become irreversable damage where nothing ever functions the same again. I offer no magic bullet cures. I only focus on restoring immune system function where your body can heal itself. Amazing when hospitals get shut down mortality rates decl7ne. Most of the time people just get better on their own.
Hospitals and dr's have their place of course. It is just that they got really good at billing.
I hope you and your wife all the best and I am satisfied you have faith in your doctors.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: bulwarkz

I’ve read more than 20 seconds on a wiki.

Let me ask. How long have you had cancer? How many of these “cures” have you tried?

Here’s my answer. My wife has cancer. She’s tried a lot of these “cures”. Guess what? She still has cancer. I wonder why that would be? Probably the same reason the idiots saying they can cure all diseases end up dying from a disease. They don’t work.

I had mrsa it was in my lymph system. I was dead. 2 drs later I found tumeric after over a year of suffering i was getting relief within hours. After 2 months I was 80% better. After 6 months I was better. I hope it goes as well with your wife. I highly suggest you watch "run from the cure" the Rick Simpson story. This leads to a nontoxic noninvasive 6 week treatment.

a reply to: bulwarkz

2 long posts and it can be summed up by “no. I’ve never had cancer so never tried the “cures” I’m saying work”.

My advice is to ignore anyone who claims to know or have the cure for cancer or Aides and hold on to your wallet. I lost a mother to breast cancer, a mother in law to kidney cancer, a close friend to pancreatic cancer and now my wife has ovarian cancer.
My mother went through radiation & chemo 3 different times before she died. My mother in law went the natural, organic, holistic, supplement route....and she died. My close friend didn't even know he had pancreatic cancer, when he found out, he died a week later.
My wife, who has eaten "organic" food and taken supplements for years is devastated and is torn between her well meaning friends giving her conflicting advice.
You either end up giving all your money to the medical institutions or to health food stores and traveling to "clinics" in Mexico that claim to be able to cure cancer with unorthodox treatments, and you die anyway.

a reply to: Sparky63


Give up Dairy, and sugar is the best advice to anyone with cancer, it feeds it with the same growth hormone that's gets calf's into two tons of walking meat in eighteen months. Definitely not for humans ! Its not what you take its what you must give up which gets it going in the first place.

a reply to: Sparky63

I went through radiation and chemo 31 years ago. I was advised by friends to use alternative "treatments." I'm glad I didn't take their advice. Others who did, died. Of cancer.

I didn't.

Sometimes it's just too late for anything to work. So fine, try the "wheatgrass" route. But not until you've tried the stuff that works.

Ask Steve Jobs.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: bulwarkz

2 long posts and it can be summed up by “no. I’ve never had cancer so never tried the “cures” I’m saying work”.

Actually i might have had cancer at one time but whatever it was is gone. I had some serious issues at different times throughout my life.

Just to be safe though, and in following my own advice I testify to you this.

Since canna is legal in my state I figure I have dosed myself well enough to have cured cancer and aids 5 or 6 times over. So we can say I treat cancer prophylactic like. I am not taking any chances, lol