Underwater Ruins in China

originally posted by: rickymouse
I do not know why China would want to keep their pyramids private. I suppose they do not want their country overrun with tourists who teach bad things to their citizens. They have a different kind of society than we do, it is better just to keep what they have and laugh at us for the pyramids in other areas that were robbed of all of the artifacts. I bet they have strict laws governing robbing those places.

It is good for all Kings regardless of squabbles, to keep it separate from the direct charade before the profane.

a reply to: Rosinitiate

Is this joint anywhere near this joint ?

700 ? year old buddha



Great pics in the link

Great topic. I'd never heard of it. Something to look into. I do wish the ancientaliens aspect had been left out, those guys drive me nuts.

I'll give ya a geeat big raspberry on ha$t onea reply to: Harte

originally posted by: Harte
That is, why does everything have to be so overblown?

Is it not cool enough that there's this almost-ancient city under a lake for Christ's sake?

Not blaming you, of course, but geez, I need some reals, not this breathless, astonished, Ancient Aliens flapdoodley crapola.

Harte

What ancient aliens flapdoodley crapola are you referring to?

The video Slayer put at the end which was more of a spacefiller since details are sparse at the moment?

Why are you pretending that little afterthought of a joke at the end was the main thrust of the op?

Or is it that you cannot even tolerate That miniscule level/amount of "crapola"?

originally posted by: Diggah
Great topic. I'd never heard of it. Something to look into. I do wish the ancientaliens aspect had been left out, those guys drive me nuts.

A little sensitive today?

Fuxian Lake, China: Hidden for millennia underwater in China’s second deepest lake, this 1.7 square mile (2.7 square km) site, found by diver Geng Wei in 2005, may be the ancient city of Yuyuan dating back to the Qin and Han dynasties of 2000 years ago.

Source

originally posted by: 3n19m470

originally posted by: Harte
That is, why does everything have to be so overblown?

Is it not cool enough that there's this almost-ancient city under a lake for Christ's sake?

Not blaming you, of course, but geez, I need some reals, not this breathless, astonished, Ancient Aliens flapdoodley crapola.

Harte

What ancient aliens flapdoodley crapola are you referring to?

The video Slayer put at the end which was more of a spacefiller since details are sparse at the moment?

Why are you pretending that little afterthought of a joke at the end was the main thrust of the op?

Or is it that you cannot even tolerate That miniscule level/amount of "crapola"?

I actually said I wasn't talking about Slayer.
I also, in a subsequent post, characterized exactly what kind of flapdoodley crapola I was talking about.

The fact that details are sparse is due to the happenstance that the fringe hasn't gotten around to making up any new details. I already stated what one description of the site says. There's not a "Mayan style" pyramid there. What's there is described as a building with three floors, not three levels, with stairs going from one floor to the next.

Harte

originally posted by: SLAYER69
I'll give ya a geeat big raspberry on ha$t onea reply to: Harte

Well, the seahorses in Titicaca don't care what you think LOL.

Harte

a reply to: SLAYER69

It's so weird that these ancient buidings..pyramids are not investigated by the governments all over the world where they are. I am thinking about the newly discovered chambers in the great pyraid of Giza, the one in Bonia..and the chineese ones. Maybe we think they are not investigated by the governments...to keep the finds secret. If there is ancient advanced technology to be discovered I can imagine. What prosper can it bring to a nation if they find ancient but advanced technology which can be weaponized or bring a new source of energy to the world. Anyways...if I had a say, ancient tech or not...go investigate those pyramids inside out.



.. Zat

a reply to: rickymouse

I read a comment from another ATS'er a while (long while) back stating that the Chinese did not want to really investigate their pyramids and other ruins, because many of those that lived in these old places were not of the same race as the current majority Han type Chinese, according to their own studies of bodies and cultural material; so, they buried the ruins where possible.

originally posted by: zatara
a reply to: SLAYER69

It's so weird that these ancient buidings..pyramids are not investigated by the governments all over the world where they are.

.. Zat

Which pyramids all over the world haven't been investigated?

Harte

a reply to: Fowlerstoad

Bingo...

The Chinese are .... Interesting when it comes to stuff like that, and by interesting I mean horrifically xenophobic and terrifically racist LOL.

a reply to: Egoismyname

In Northeastern Oregon State, Lake Wallowa has an intact underwater grove of large coniferous trees. That whole timbered slope slid into the waters of the deep, glacial cirque? lake. As far as I know, no diver has taken any samples and dated them with Carbon 14. That deep Chinese lake may be on a fault line, which would help explain a sunken city. There is a sunken Egyptian pyramid, off of the present Delta of the Nile River, but it was being built when the Mediterranean waters rose at the end of the last Ice Age. One more nail in the coffin for the 4000 BC dating of the Giza Great Pyramid. We can map and date, ancient shorelines, with core drilling.

This topic piqued my interest. So thanks Slayer!
After spending some time looking for official sources, I came up pretty much with nothing.

Cass (Chinese academy for social studies) who are responsible for the Fuxian site, have nothing published, despite a series of investigations. In 2006 they conducted at least two separate one week studies of the site. In 2014 they followed up with a 14-day study. After which they were supposed to release a study in the following months. I, however, was unable to find even the slightest evidence that the study was ever released.

But it seems that the submerged city is Dian of origin.

It seems as the Chinese are reluctant to release any archeological finds that may discredit their official (Han) history.

Welcome back, young Slayer69. I have missed your threads.



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originally posted by: carpooler
There is a sunken Egyptian pyramid, off of the present Delta of the Nile River, but it was being built when the Mediterranean waters rose at the end of the last Ice Age. One more nail in the coffin for the 4000 BC dating of the Giza Great Pyramid. We can map and date, ancient shorelines, with core drilling.

There's no pyramid in the Med that has ever been found, and half of Alexandria is underwater today, along with all of Thonis (Heracleion) - were they built before the end of the Ice Age too?

Note that the Greeks knew both cities. In fact, Alexandria was a Greek city.

Harte

Fujian and Yunnan are far apart.

There are strict laws about looting of ancient sites but that doesn't stop people from doing it. Including people looting and selling on the black market to benefit members of the CCP.

I've seen one of the pyramids which is not on most maps and it's basically a vegetation covered mound now. It was still pretty cool to see it and think about what it must have looked like.

a reply to: SLAYER69

The single picture at the top of this thread has something wrong with it IMO.

This photograph is looking across at the pyramid. The pyramid appears to be 60-70m in height On top that it seems there is about another 20 meters to the surface.

The pyramid appears to be about 100 metres in length. It seems from there one can see about kilometer of a bit less beyond that.

Visibility on a good day underwater is maybe 60 to 80m. The distance that you can see in perfectly clear water depends on the intensity of the light, as blue light is reduced by 90 per cent over a distance of 230m.

So could someone please explain why my suspicions that there is something wrong with this picture have no basis?

a reply to: Azureblue

Because its not a photograph. Its clearly a CG artist's impression.