Isn't China supposed to be anti-Christian ?

Recently, I guessed it was time to get a hard-copy of the Bible.

The reasons why was in case...
1) the internet kill-switch is pushed
2) a massive solar flare
3) or military EMP wipes out the electricity supply

On the back cover is stated that the Bible has been printed in China.



So is it one huge lie that states that China persecutes Christians ?
Or the Holy Spirit somehow managed to fool the entire printing process, packaging and distribution.

Note: The British Catholic Church are distributing these ones (pictures above) and the Salvation Army hands out the standard free NIV version.

a reply to: Rapha

Well if everyone else can make money selling BS. So can the Chinese.

a reply to: Rapha


Educate thyself.

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CHINESE GOVERNMENT BLOWS UP CHRISTIAN MEGACHURCH–A WARNING TO LOCAL CHURCHES
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As of Tuesday, Jan. 9, the well-known megachurch, which reportedly was built with nearly $3 million in contributions from local worshippers in one of China’s poorest regions, was a pile of dust and rubble after Chinese paramilitary forces reportedly used excavators and dynamite to destroy the church, and with it, the hopes and dreams of many believers in the area.

According to ChinaAid, a watchdog organization that keeps track of religious freedom in China, the police faction that destroyed the church reports to some of the country’s highest officials. China’s military police has been under the direct control of the central government since the head of the public security bureau, which previously commanded it, was arrested last year–indicating that the order to destroy the church came from China’s top officials instead of the less-powerful local authorities.

a reply to: Rapha

Are they being distributed in China? Printing them and distributing them are 2 different things.

a reply to: Rapha

Jesus won’t save you — President Xi Jinping will, Chinese Christians told

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BEIJING — Jesus Christ won’t drag you out of poverty or cure your illnesses, but the Chinese Communist Party will, so take down those pictures of Christ and put up a nice photograph of President Xi Jinping.

That’s what thousands of villagers in southeastern China have been told by local officials, in a sign of the growing cult of personality around the country’s powerful leader, as well as rising pressure on Christian worship.


“Many rural people are ignorant. They think God is their savior,” he said. “After our cadres’ work, they’ll realize their mistakes and think: We should no longer rely on Jesus, but on the party for help.”

Xi said religion must be guided by the party to adapt to socialist society.


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a reply to: Rapha

China the fastest growing Christian lace on Earth. Saw a program on it. Long after we in Europe will be praying to Mecca China's going to become the centre of Christianity

You'd be surprised...

originally posted by: testingtesting
Well if everyone else can make money selling BS. So can the Chinese.

Then it must be the Catholic Church that is paying for them all because these Bibles are handed out freely from the local Catholic Churches.

originally posted by: Khaleesi
Are they being distributed in China? Printing them and distributing them are 2 different things.

Printed there and distributed outside is a definite.

i do not know if this same Bible is distributed inside China.

a reply to: Rapha

Isn't China supposed to be anti-Christian ?

No, I don't think they are supposed to be anti-Christian. Or not specifically, at least.

However, as Chinese rule is some bastard offspring of communism, they prefer you to worship The State and not some deity - especially organised religion is seen as a competing for the subjects loyalty.

So it would be (more) accurate to say that China is anti-religion.

According to this 2.1% of china's population is christian.

2.1% of 1.4 billion is a whole lot of christians.

They are anti-religion because Communism frowns on anything that would put God above the State. People that believe in God aren’t as easy for the State to manipulate as those that are Atheist so Totalitarian states discourage God and Religion as much as possible.

You can see the same thing here in the U.S. as the Leftists are generally God hating Atheists so they can better bring their Totalitarian Liberal Utopia into fruition.

originally posted by: Metallicus
They are anti-religion because Communism frowns on anything that would put God above the State. People that believe in God aren’t as easy for the State to manipulate as those that are Atheist so Totalitarian states discourage God and Religion as much as possible.

You can see the same thing here in the U.S. as the Leftists are generally God hating Atheists so they can better bring their Totalitarian Liberal Utopia into fruition.

Oh so true.

They are anti religion, definitely not anti making money..they could care less about the content when it's exported.

they allow people to practice religion in china .
they also monitor and regulate ALL religions in china .

as to bibles being printed in china its just another product they make .

a reply to: VengefulGhost

I think you might want to check your facts on that one - just saying.

Bibles pulled from online stores as China increases control of religion

The Bible appears to have been removed from online marketplaces in China, as Beijing clamps down on how its citizens practice religion.

China has always controlled sales of the Bible, only allowing it to be distributed and printed by state-sanctioned churches, but in recent years it had been available to buy online. T

hat loophole now appears to be firmly closed. Searches for "Holy Bible" did not return results on JD.com, and results on Amazon.cn did not include the main text, but did include study guides and the Koran.

Disturbing for sure.

This tag on my work gloves baffled me at first, but as others have mentioned, country of production may not represent the beliefs of the government/people:

there is a lot of BS about China

A LOT

there is billions of people there the government can't control all of them

Bibles are printed here in China but generally for export only. There is an official party approved Bible but I've rarely seen them sold or distributed.

The government has official representatives and spies in all organized churches and most of the unofficial ones have spies inside them.

In the large cities there isn't much of an outright party presence, it's there but not as in your face as the smaller cities and towns in China.

I know some folks who are connected to missionaries in China.

They say that every prefecture (like a province or state in the US/Canada) has some independence to act. Their work was centered on Shanghai. Originally, back in the turn of the millennium, Shanghai was extremely intolerant of Christianity. They saw its God as non-Chinese and therefore an agent of capitalism. They had a great deal of distrust for the Catholic Church, since John Paul II had a hand in taking down the soviet empire.

In the 1990s, the party actually supported Falun Dafa, a quasi-religious spiritual practice involving Qi Gong & Tai Chi that was entirely home-grown Chinese. But it got so popular, that the government became increasingly suspicious, and began to oppress leaders and practitioners of it. They were concerned because it was popular and not controlled by the government.

Back then, In Shanghai, group worship, prayer or praise became absolutely forbidden as conspiracy against the party. Foreign businessmen were monitored closely for signs of Christian belief, and would be interrupted by police if they were worshipping with other expats in a western hotel.

Several of the adjoining provinces were the opposite. As long as a congregation was registered with the govt,, they could do church. police would video the whole proceedings, bu would sometimes join in the prayers, etc.

Shanghai started opening up about 2012 or so. They allowed several large churches to be build in the city. I heard about one "Cathedral" that the authorities had approved a seating capacity of 2000 seats. So TWELVE churches used it consecutively on Sundays, with a total of 24,000 different worshipers using the building every Sunday.

In Shanghai, the storm broke about 2 years ago. Several of the churches (catholic ones, I think), had put a cross on the top of their towers. The state freaked out at the public show of religion, and tried to cut the crosses off the buildings. Some of the workers refused to demolish them, and maybe some protesters built a human chain around the church---I think that's the one that was just blown up.