Someone enlighten me on Syria

I'll admit I don't know all the details, but something does not add up.

So we hit Syria because we are against "chemical" attacks on civilians. OK,

My question is do we really care about Syrian civilians? We don't care about Mexicans, even though
according to the State Department Mexico is a dangerous place that Americans shouldn't travel to. If we
cared about people's lives we wouldn't be sending people back there, right?
So we either do care about people's lives or we don't. Can't have it both ways.

Of course I know it there is more
to this than chemical weapons and people's lives, both of which our government don't care about.
I doubt it is about chemical weapons at all. So what is it about really? Oil, Land, migrants crossing into Europe, new power struggle
for NWO?
Someone enlighten me on your theory...

a reply to: JAGStorm

It's not about caring about people. It's about gaining control of the Syrian port at Tartus.

This article is a year old but it describes why the port is so important:

Russian resolve: Why Syria Matters to Putin

Putin needs it, therefore everyone else wants to keep it from him.

a reply to: JAGStorm

The entire mess is over who gets the profits from gas pipelines.

It's really that simple.

The Syrian Civil War started right when Iran wanted that pipeline.

Qatar wants one too.

Russia wants none (unless they can share in the wealth).

The U.S. would benefit from a Qatar pipeline.

Russia thirves on perpetual conflict in Syria.

Maps help.

And look up the gas pipeline agreements and who is involved. There's a few planned and some under delayed construction.

first article to read

a reply to: JAGStorm

Bad guys fighting bad guys, and neither like the west.


But to be fair, they've been fighting each other over one thing or another for 5,000 years, so yeah. . . like we're going to bring peace to the Middle East with words because; oil.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: JAGStorm

The entire mess is over who gets the profits from gas pipelines.

It's really that simple.

The Syrian Civil War started right when Iran wanted that pipeline.

Qatar wants one too.

Russia wants none (unless they can share in the wealth).

The U.S. would benefit from a Qatar pipeline.

Russia thirves on perpetual conflict in Syria.

Maps help.

And look up the gas pipeline agreements and who is involved. There's a few planned and some under delayed construction.

first article to read

For once I agree with you.

I had this discussion earlier today with a co-worker. Why would we intervene in Syria but not in Rwanda? In Afghanistan but not Ukraine? Because it's about resources...geography and resources. Make no mistake it's not about the Syrian people. In fact, I'm sure that the neocon Trump doesn't care about them...nor did the neocons Bilary or Bush. All they want is to push the global war agenda and feed the fires of terrorism. (Terror sells guns.)

a reply to: trollz

This is about natural gas, not oil.

And on the map, look for the little blue flames.

Those mean gas not oil.

The "religion" things are secondary internal conflicts mostly between traditional Shiite/Sunni stuff, and between Arab/Persion stuff.

But the $Trillion Dollars is the main point and Russia right now is the "blockade".

The "Gas" itself has no loyalties.

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originally posted by: JAGStormSo what is it about really? Oil, Land, migrants crossing into Europe, new power struggle
for NWO?

pretty much.

a reply to: xuenchen

The Syrian Civil War started right when Iran wanted that pipeline.

Qatar wants one too.

So there's no confusion, Assad chose Iran's pipeline over Qatar's proposal.

Qatar is a small Wahhabi-controlled country with about 300,00 citizens and 2 million or so foreign workers & expats. Despite that, it's become a huge importer of Western military goods, buying a reported $18 billion worth just in the first 8 months of 2017 (HERE). So of course, the US & UK prop up the Qatari govt and have troops there, particularly in Al Udeid Air Base. After Assad chose Iran's proposal, Qatar was one of the original financiers of the mercenary rebel groups that co-opted Syria's original protests, including Daesh/ISIS.

Another angle to the pipeline mess is the Russian pipelines to Europe. Russia supplies a lot of Europe's oil and natural gas and many European leaders wanted alternative sources of energy. The Ukraine conflicts reduced Russia's energy clout b/c a lot of their oil had to go through Ukraine before it got to its European customers. So Russia tried to push through alternative pipelines through at least Turkey and Greece (I think).

Qatar and Iran wanted their pipelines to be the answers to Europe's energy dilemma. But any Qatari or Iranian pipeline would have to go through Northern Iraq or Syria and then through Turkey before it got to Europe. And since both the GCC and most of the West are against Iran, it's pretty obvious why they'd take action against Assad for choosing the pipeline that would boost Iran's finances over the one that would boost the GCC's finances.

a reply to: JAGStorm

1. Competing pipelines. Iran & Assad want an Iranian-backed pipeline through Syria, while the GCC and West want a GCC backed pipeline through Syria.

2. Russia has a naval base in Syria w/Syria's permission, but NATO wants that base gone.

3. As long as the Kurdish people in Iraq or Syria appear to be gaining independence, Turkey will attack them. Turkey has a large Kurdish population and it views any Kurdish independence declarations as a threat because it believes that Kurdish citizens in Turkey will also rebel.

4. The GCC & Iran have a social, political, and economic Cold War going on. They've been fighting proxy battles in the region for the last 39 years, since 2 massive incidents in 1979 shattered the region's previous dynamics. Yemen and Syria are 2 of the proxy wars that are going on right now. And Saudi Arabia's abduction and forced resignation of Lebanon's leader Hariri late last year was another branch of the conflict, since the Saudi's were pissed that Hariri allowed Hezbollah (an Iranian ally) into his coalition.

a reply to: enlightenedservant

Yes, you've outlined some points that make the confusion what it is.

Big mess and Russia loves the conflicts.

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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: JAGStorm

The entire mess is over who gets the profits from gas pipelines.

It's really that simple.

Total conspiracy theory.

They could have already built the pipeline around Syria and been done 7 years ago for years of profit compared to waiting for this unending war and spend billions with their proxies.

America is exporting mass amounts of oil now, it's not about oil anymore.

originally posted by: xstealth

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: JAGStorm

The entire mess is over who gets the profits from gas pipelines.

It's really that simple.

Total conspiracy theory.

They could have already built the pipeline around Syria and been done 7 years ago for years of profit compared to waiting for this unending war and spend billions with their proxies.

America is exporting mass amounts of oil now, it's not about oil anymore.

Care to enlighten us all on what you think this is about then?

a reply to: xstealth


But they wouldn't be exporting massive amounts of oil , if completive pipelines came on stream. So its in Americas interest to make sure that they don't.

a reply to: JAGStorm

I must have missed the US gassing Mexico to mame this correlation even remotely anything more than a hyperbolic exercise in melodramatics. ..

This entire mess is about taking control of the Stargate in Damascus.
Without control of this Stargate, we can't get our off-world troops back home in time for Christmas.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Special Interest Group Proxy Program.
A damn disgrace as well to all parties
involved.

Pipelines and containment.
At its worst.

Stay Pure and Clean

a reply to: xuenchen

Nice maps.

Wise Owl.

a reply to: xstealth

Interesting Concept.

Why not through Lebanon
or even Israel?

Shallow Waters?

Heres a good video that lays out some things and gives you a good basic knowledge of whats going on, even some disturbing things but all backed up with documentation.

Its a bit long but stick with it ,

Language warning.