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President Trump is now the leader of the world

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posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 12:55 PM
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a reply to: nwtrucker

"Trump made his position pretty clear with his speech to the 50 Muslim leaders. The goal being the eradication of ISIS"

And that might even have been a worthy goal accept our respective nations pretty much created and armed ISIS by way of our actions in the Middle East.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 01:00 PM
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originally posted by: mangust69
a reply to: nwtrucker

a little distracted what does your nickname mean?replaced the nworder of the truck that press the dissenters?Let's compare the ride of the Russian and US armies on the dusty roads of the Middle East  youtu.be... youtu.be... my nickname mongoose means reflex on snakes


Nope. I'm a Trumpster, through and through. I believe/hope Trump isn't a NWO guy. I'd assume those people want the U.S. much more involved than they are. Trump just gave a slap on the wrist and artfully retained the option to leave Syria. Do you really believe the power boys are or will be happy with that? I don't.

I'd guess Trump's time limit on leaving Syria will be the Mid-Term elections in the U.S.. That one could play hugely on who wins that election.

"Stay tuned for more episodes of 'As the world turns'". Time will tell.

Mongooses are cool. Nice handle.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 01:01 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: nwtrucker

"Trump made his position pretty clear with his speech to the 50 Muslim leaders. The goal being the eradication of ISIS"

And that might even have been a worthy goal accept our respective nations pretty much created and armed ISIS by way of our actions in the Middle East.



We know that. Not Trump's doing, however. Just cleaning it up somewhat. Hopefully.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 01:11 PM
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a reply to: nwtrucker

So whats next to be cleaned up after the Middle East?

And when did we become the domestic caretaker of the world?

If you ask me it's better not to make a mess in the first place thus not have to clear it up!

Certainly less costly in both monies, pain, misery, and mass genocide.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 01:13 PM
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originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: nwtrucker

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: scraedtosleep

originally posted by: snowspirit

originally posted by: amazing
Bombing another country doesn't make you a leader.

Why so angry with Syria when Israel bombed civilians and sniper shot a journalist and Saudi Arabia and Yeman doing ethnic cleansing, Turkey killing kurds...etc, etc, etc. Why are we only mad at Syria?


Just thought this was worth a repeat.
Very good point.


Agreed. Why isn't everyone asking this question?

It's called "whataboutism,"a means of deflecting. Germany used mustard gas in the Great War. That doesn't make it okay for Assad to use chlorine against his own people.


You have 100% evidence to justify strikes? You have that evidence. So, was it Assads plan all along to wait until they were in the brink of defeating the rebels, in the brink if the West pulling out, to drop a chemical in his own People! It is laughable that so many people would believe anything!

Do you think it is a coincidence that Russia stepping in and helping Assad push the rebels and isis back, suddenly they are also the new monsters of the planet!

And let's not forget what this is all about! A people from Qatar through Syria into Europe!


I suppose it would be 'laughable' to believe that if Stalin was still around and was in the process of killing 20 million of HIS people, or Mao killing his millions if anyone suggested it or pointed it out. It has happened before, yes?

The assumption is that such an act by Assad 'doesn't make any sense'. That is correct. It doesn't make any sense. There's why the act would be...or was.... an insane one. That is insanity. By definition. It exists. There's no shortage of it.

I don't know one way or another whether Assad did so or not.It was in a rebel area so it's 'the rebel's did it to get Trump to act' or Assad was after that pocket of rebels...perhaps.

Trump acted. He backed up his word that any further chemical weapon use would not be tolerated. WMDs are evil. More evil than regular war, itself. Trump has his information/misinformation and has no further source and nor opportunity to timely arrive at a different conclusion.

He acted with the least damage to the most germane targets, chemical storage and manufacturing sites. An astute and adroit move which sends the promised consequence to any and all who participated and any who might act similarly.

A bitchingly tough call. That, in my books, is leadership. Putin has lost credibility...even with his supporters in the west. Putin made promises, as well. He did not keep them. (not forgetting he has invaded three neighboring regions and kept them)

Yes, Trump is the leader of the world. You may not like it. That's your call. Not that what you or I think matters much.

I say it is now a fact.


Comparing Mao and Stalin to this is a bit silly.

This is the problem here! Saying this like "Putin lost his credibility" just shows how brainwashed we are!
He knew if he retaliated, ww3 would be a step closer, and it would be a war no one would win.

Yes, the west keeps pushing! False flag after false flag, but Putin showed he will not give into them, and I am glad he did not!

This is not a videogame! Here we have a bunch of sociopaths, who have brainwashed most if the public. People who see through all the b.s.

People who see what this is really about. That moron is not my leader, and the buffoon will only cause a ww3, along with the other sociopaths thst follow him, including my counties leader Theresa May.

They will get what is coming to them I am sure!


No, not silly and not a comparison, either. A point i was making, even though on a much smaller scale, the mechanism of insanity has played out in history and 'could' be the case with Assad. No, I don't know for sure either way. To say 'it doesn't make sense' and to, therefore, conclude it didn't happen or couldn't happen goes too far.

This is pilfered from a new thread . It says Russia and Syria is STILL blocking access to the target area. If true, that should give pause to which side is doing the brainwashing.

www.opcw.org...



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 01:47 PM
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a reply to: nwtrucker



No, not silly and not a comparison, either. A point i was making, even though on a much smaller scale, the mechanism of insanity has played out in history and 'could' be the case with Assad. No, I don't know for sure either way. To say 'it doesn't make sense' and to, therefore, conclude it didn't happen or couldn't happen goes too far.


It doesn't make sense because you are employing a slippery slope logical fallacy.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 01:55 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: nwtrucker



No, not silly and not a comparison, either. A point i was making, even though on a much smaller scale, the mechanism of insanity has played out in history and 'could' be the case with Assad. No, I don't know for sure either way. To say 'it doesn't make sense' and to, therefore, conclude it didn't happen or couldn't happen goes too far.


It doesn't make sense because you are employing a slippery slope logical fallacy.


Garbage.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 01:59 PM
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originally posted by: mangust69
a reply to: nwtrucker
Assad during the attack was in Damascus and went to work in the morning



You mean before he evacuated they took of a video of him walking through an empty already evacuated government building and released it the morning after the attack when he was on his way back to Damascus from hiding in a Russian base.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 01:59 PM
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originally posted by: nwtrucker

I believe/hope Trump isn't a NWO guy.


Then what's he doing carrying out the NWO agenda? Being the "leader of the world" is the stuff of the NWO. Attacking Iran is the stuff of the NWO. Attacking North Korea is the stuff of the NWO. Attacking Syria is the stuff of the NWO. Employing Al Qaeda to tear up the world in proxy wars is the stuff of the NWO. Fighting with Russia as an excuse for never ending imperialist ambitions is the stuff of the NWO.




edit on 16-4-2018 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 02:15 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

You're talking to a brick wall. I mean... "security issues to solve and 22 witnesses to interview" boils down to 'blocking access' in his head already.
He's blocking access with reasonable arguments at this point, which is kinda funny on it's own.

The things you do for the leaders sake. I'm a Kraut, I can sympathise with that! Why can't you?




posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 02:19 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: nwtrucker

I believe/hope Trump isn't a NWO guy.


Then what's he doing carrying out the NWO agenda? Being the "leader of the world" is the stuff of the NWO. Attacking Iran is the stuff of the NWO. Attacking North Korea is the stuff of the NWO. Attacking Syria is the stuff of the NWO. Employing Al Qaeda to tear up the world in proxy wars is the stuff of the NWO. Fighting with Russia as an excuse for never ending imperialist ambitions is the stuff of the NWO.





Lol, There's been world leaders well before a 'new' world order. After all, Putin's meme of being anti-NWO made him a 'world leader' in many of your eye's. (the best liar uses truth in his lies, yes?) One can be a world leader without being 'NWO' . He can be even anti-NWO if he survives, that is.

Seeing your the spokesperson for the NWO agenda, let me rebut, I am no a supporter of the NWO-better named the 'old world order...on steroids'. I'm the one who pointed out the Sykes-Picot accord that started this mess. France, the U.K. and rubber stamped by Russia.

If Trump keeps his promise and leaves Syria, would that be 'NWO'? If NK ceases it's ICBM development and reaches an accord, would that be NWO? Trump is 'employing' Al Qaeda?? Getting a little far out there, sir,....


Iran? No nukes. Period. be damned what the NWO wants. Are you so naive to think there's no overlap between the various interest?

Lastly, it's rather obvious that Trump and the U.S., for that matter, isn't in the position to take them on, head to head, at this juncture. Rope-a-dope. Consolidate. Strengthen the home front economically, militarily and politically, then perhaps the gloves can come off.

One step at a time....



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 06:11 PM
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originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: scraedtosleep

originally posted by: snowspirit

originally posted by: amazing
Bombing another country doesn't make you a leader.

Why so angry with Syria when Israel bombed civilians and sniper shot a journalist and Saudi Arabia and Yeman doing ethnic cleansing, Turkey killing kurds...etc, etc, etc. Why are we only mad at Syria?


Just thought this was worth a repeat.
Very good point.


Agreed. Why isn't everyone asking this question?

It's called "whataboutism,"a means of deflecting. Germany used mustard gas in the Great War. That doesn't make it okay for Assad to use chlorine against his own people.


whataboutism? Like saying what about germany?



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 06:18 PM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: scraedtosleep

originally posted by: snowspirit

originally posted by: amazing
Bombing another country doesn't make you a leader.

Why so angry with Syria when Israel bombed civilians and sniper shot a journalist and Saudi Arabia and Yeman doing ethnic cleansing, Turkey killing kurds...etc, etc, etc. Why are we only mad at Syria?


Just thought this was worth a repeat.
Very good point.


Agreed. Why isn't everyone asking this question?

It's called "whataboutism,"a means of deflecting. Germany used mustard gas in the Great War. That doesn't make it okay for Assad to use chlorine against his own people.


whataboutism? Like saying what about germany?


One would think that rather than playing at semantics, one would see that WMDs should have been addressed long ago. The German point remains valid.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 08:58 PM
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originally posted by: nwtrucker

An amazing event took place last night. A leader actually kept his word. Despite the inherent risks. The world now knows this man will back up his rhetoric with action. All other leaders will factor U.S. response as opposed to non-response.

It will result in less chance of major war, not more.


And it was France that convinced him to follow through when he didn't originally intend to.

Trump isn't the leader people hoped for, he's a squirmy worm who cares only about his reputation.
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posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 09:08 PM
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originally posted by: miniatus

originally posted by: nwtrucker

An amazing event took place last night. A leader actually kept his word. Despite the inherent risks. The world now knows this man will back up his rhetoric with action. All other leaders will factor U.S. response as opposed to non-response.

It will result in less chance of major war, not more.


And it was France that convinced him to follow through when he didn't originally intend to.

Trump isn't the leader people hoped for, he's a squirmy worm who cares only about his reputation.


Right, the France and the Macron who has been vilifying Trump for months. Name the people that vilify Trump that Trump not only doesn't work with but actually hits back, doubles down, what have you? Sorry, it's an idea that's beyond a stretch, it's downright laughable.



posted on Apr, 17 2018 @ 01:02 AM
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a reply to: abe froman

My apologies for missing your post and the detail of your previous one.

I thought the reasons for Desert Storm and Shield were, as you say, the invasion of Kuwait rather than WMDs. I supported the effort.

Too bad H didn't finish the job when he had the chance. Right? Too bad W had to fabricate to do so. It sure didn't turn out well.

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posted on Apr, 17 2018 @ 06:35 AM
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a reply to: Phage

you supported the invasion ?

Why ?



posted on Apr, 17 2018 @ 06:45 AM
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a reply to: sapien82

The original gulf war 1 after Iraq invaded Kuwait, with the highway of death and long before shock and awe Bush jnr



posted on Apr, 17 2018 @ 07:20 AM
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a reply to: Whereismypassword

I understand Phage was talking about desert storm in the early 90's

and I wanted to know why he supported it , I was 8 years old in 1990
not sure how old phage was, anyway still wonder why you supported the US invasion



posted on Apr, 17 2018 @ 08:27 AM
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originally posted by: nwtrucker
Right, the France and the Macron who has been vilifying Trump for months

Macron vilifying Trump? What are you talking about? Macron rolled out the red carpet for him a few months ago and has been going full charm offensive since day one. Macron was the first head of state to visit the Whitehouse and is pretty much the only one to say nice things about him.

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