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originally posted by: mangust69
a reply to: nwtrucker
a little distracted what does your nickname mean?replaced the nworder of the truck that press the dissenters?Let's compare the ride of the Russian and US armies on the dusty roads of the Middle East youtu.be... youtu.be... my nickname mongoose means reflex on snakes
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: nwtrucker
"Trump made his position pretty clear with his speech to the 50 Muslim leaders. The goal being the eradication of ISIS"
And that might even have been a worthy goal accept our respective nations pretty much created and armed ISIS by way of our actions in the Middle East.
originally posted by: Jay-morris
originally posted by: nwtrucker
originally posted by: Jay-morris
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: scraedtosleep
originally posted by: snowspirit
originally posted by: amazing
Bombing another country doesn't make you a leader.
Why so angry with Syria when Israel bombed civilians and sniper shot a journalist and Saudi Arabia and Yeman doing ethnic cleansing, Turkey killing kurds...etc, etc, etc. Why are we only mad at Syria?
Just thought this was worth a repeat.
Very good point.
Agreed. Why isn't everyone asking this question?
It's called "whataboutism,"a means of deflecting. Germany used mustard gas in the Great War. That doesn't make it okay for Assad to use chlorine against his own people.
You have 100% evidence to justify strikes? You have that evidence. So, was it Assads plan all along to wait until they were in the brink of defeating the rebels, in the brink if the West pulling out, to drop a chemical in his own People! It is laughable that so many people would believe anything!
Do you think it is a coincidence that Russia stepping in and helping Assad push the rebels and isis back, suddenly they are also the new monsters of the planet!
And let's not forget what this is all about! A people from Qatar through Syria into Europe!
I suppose it would be 'laughable' to believe that if Stalin was still around and was in the process of killing 20 million of HIS people, or Mao killing his millions if anyone suggested it or pointed it out. It has happened before, yes?
The assumption is that such an act by Assad 'doesn't make any sense'. That is correct. It doesn't make any sense. There's why the act would be...or was.... an insane one. That is insanity. By definition. It exists. There's no shortage of it.
I don't know one way or another whether Assad did so or not.It was in a rebel area so it's 'the rebel's did it to get Trump to act' or Assad was after that pocket of rebels...perhaps.
Trump acted. He backed up his word that any further chemical weapon use would not be tolerated. WMDs are evil. More evil than regular war, itself. Trump has his information/misinformation and has no further source and nor opportunity to timely arrive at a different conclusion.
He acted with the least damage to the most germane targets, chemical storage and manufacturing sites. An astute and adroit move which sends the promised consequence to any and all who participated and any who might act similarly.
A bitchingly tough call. That, in my books, is leadership. Putin has lost credibility...even with his supporters in the west. Putin made promises, as well. He did not keep them. (not forgetting he has invaded three neighboring regions and kept them)
Yes, Trump is the leader of the world. You may not like it. That's your call. Not that what you or I think matters much.
I say it is now a fact.
Comparing Mao and Stalin to this is a bit silly.
This is the problem here! Saying this like "Putin lost his credibility" just shows how brainwashed we are!
He knew if he retaliated, ww3 would be a step closer, and it would be a war no one would win.
Yes, the west keeps pushing! False flag after false flag, but Putin showed he will not give into them, and I am glad he did not!
This is not a videogame! Here we have a bunch of sociopaths, who have brainwashed most if the public. People who see through all the b.s.
People who see what this is really about. That moron is not my leader, and the buffoon will only cause a ww3, along with the other sociopaths thst follow him, including my counties leader Theresa May.
They will get what is coming to them I am sure!
No, not silly and not a comparison, either. A point i was making, even though on a much smaller scale, the mechanism of insanity has played out in history and 'could' be the case with Assad. No, I don't know for sure either way. To say 'it doesn't make sense' and to, therefore, conclude it didn't happen or couldn't happen goes too far.
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: nwtrucker
No, not silly and not a comparison, either. A point i was making, even though on a much smaller scale, the mechanism of insanity has played out in history and 'could' be the case with Assad. No, I don't know for sure either way. To say 'it doesn't make sense' and to, therefore, conclude it didn't happen or couldn't happen goes too far.
It doesn't make sense because you are employing a slippery slope logical fallacy.
originally posted by: mangust69
a reply to: nwtrucker
Assad during the attack was in Damascus and went to work in the morning
originally posted by: nwtrucker
I believe/hope Trump isn't a NWO guy.
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
originally posted by: nwtrucker
I believe/hope Trump isn't a NWO guy.
Then what's he doing carrying out the NWO agenda? Being the "leader of the world" is the stuff of the NWO. Attacking Iran is the stuff of the NWO. Attacking North Korea is the stuff of the NWO. Attacking Syria is the stuff of the NWO. Employing Al Qaeda to tear up the world in proxy wars is the stuff of the NWO. Fighting with Russia as an excuse for never ending imperialist ambitions is the stuff of the NWO.
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: scraedtosleep
originally posted by: snowspirit
originally posted by: amazing
Bombing another country doesn't make you a leader.
Why so angry with Syria when Israel bombed civilians and sniper shot a journalist and Saudi Arabia and Yeman doing ethnic cleansing, Turkey killing kurds...etc, etc, etc. Why are we only mad at Syria?
Just thought this was worth a repeat.
Very good point.
Agreed. Why isn't everyone asking this question?
It's called "whataboutism,"a means of deflecting. Germany used mustard gas in the Great War. That doesn't make it okay for Assad to use chlorine against his own people.
originally posted by: scraedtosleep
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: scraedtosleep
originally posted by: snowspirit
originally posted by: amazing
Bombing another country doesn't make you a leader.
Why so angry with Syria when Israel bombed civilians and sniper shot a journalist and Saudi Arabia and Yeman doing ethnic cleansing, Turkey killing kurds...etc, etc, etc. Why are we only mad at Syria?
Just thought this was worth a repeat.
Very good point.
Agreed. Why isn't everyone asking this question?
It's called "whataboutism,"a means of deflecting. Germany used mustard gas in the Great War. That doesn't make it okay for Assad to use chlorine against his own people.
whataboutism? Like saying what about germany?
originally posted by: nwtrucker
An amazing event took place last night. A leader actually kept his word. Despite the inherent risks. The world now knows this man will back up his rhetoric with action. All other leaders will factor U.S. response as opposed to non-response.
It will result in less chance of major war, not more.
originally posted by: miniatus
originally posted by: nwtrucker
An amazing event took place last night. A leader actually kept his word. Despite the inherent risks. The world now knows this man will back up his rhetoric with action. All other leaders will factor U.S. response as opposed to non-response.
It will result in less chance of major war, not more.
And it was France that convinced him to follow through when he didn't originally intend to.
Trump isn't the leader people hoped for, he's a squirmy worm who cares only about his reputation.
originally posted by: nwtrucker
Right, the France and the Macron who has been vilifying Trump for months