OIG Report: McCabe Lack of Candor (Lying) Under Oath

originally posted by: Pyle

Just go read it and find out. Knowing for yourself what others are saying will help you a lot. It is why I often read the right-wing circle jerk threads. Got to know what the spin of the day is and those are the best place to find it.

And all y'all are doing there is saying, "Un-Uh" & "Trump!"

No digging into the report or coming to grips with the truth. Many "Ostriches." There's your left-handed circle jerk.

More actual information here and commentary by folk who actually care the DOJ was acting as a corrupt political agent.

originally posted by: The GUT
a reply to: Lumenari

There is all kinds of evidence that a grand jury has been empaneled and Huber is holding back evidentiary material as he must. The 302's have yet to be addressed but that's coming I do believe. That's going to be much bigger for McCabe than his lies in this matter.

Here's some commentary that expands a bit on what is missing from these reports and why.

"...McCabe had every incentive to raise these issues as early as possible, and surely on November 29, when he was represented by counsel and was asked pointed questions by the OIG about his July 28 testimony denying that Special Counsel had been authorized to speak to reporters during that time period. McCabe did not do so until nearly 7 months after the July 28 interview and nearly 3 months after the November 29 interview."

That’s a long footnote that essentially outlines the timeline of events; and effectively eliminates any affirmative defense that McCabe might attempt.

However, more importantly, note the fact the interview was recorded and transcribed….because that leads to the more glaring point missing from the actual IG report. There is no accompanying addendum containing the transcript or the recording. Why not?

Answer: Because the transcript and recording of the interview(s) with McCabe are now evidence for a criminal prosecution.

If Horowitz’s federal prosecutor, John Huber, was not going to criminally charge Andrew McCabe for lying we would have seen the transcript.  The absence of the transcript, and the intentional notation of the recordings by the OIG, indicate McCabe will almost certainly be charged. The evidence is overwhelming.

Digging The Details – IG Horowitz Report on Andrew McCabe

It gets deeper though. Guess who was pardoned by Trump today?

Scooter Libby.

Scooter Libby finally pardoned

Worth a thread all its own.

Guess who the guy was that put Scooter through hell and eventually charged him with crimes that were not actually committed?

Hint: His last name is Comey.

Gonna be an odd election cycle, for sure...

a reply to: Lumenari

Both Comey and Mueller excelled at putting innocent folk away (or hounding them until they commit suicide like that poor scientist over the anthrax case) and are underachievers when it comes to putting real criminals away.

They're pretty good at pushing mentally challenged folk to put stuff in their underwear and stuffs too and then acting like they busted a terror cell.

Excellent point you make and good news for Scooter. It would make an interesting thread and discussion. I wonder if it portends anything for Comey?

His "I am the martyr for America" book is coming out, and having read an excerpt or two, I certainly hope so.

Comey is a scumbag.

Horowitz informed Grassley that the McCabe report was unattached from the larger "Politicization of DOJ" investigation and that that report should be released in May.

Evidence points that among those cooperating with Horowitz and Huber in that investigation are: Bill Priestap, James Baker, Peter Strzok, Bruce and Nellie Ohr, and Lisa Page.

IG Horowitz Informs Senator Grassley Primary IG Report Release Date “May”



It appears that Inspector General Horowitz is honest and the evidentiary items for Politicization are many and clear---this is where it starts to get good.

You can read that letter on SCRIB D---some very interesting things in it.

a reply to: The GUT

Indeed there is more of interest, to whit:



Things that make you go, "hmmm..."

a reply to: The GUT

I think this is why Comey rushed his book out,
otherwise after the IG Report who would
buy the slimy thing?

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Nothing gets by you, Sir. That conversation will be, in all likelihood, along the lines of, "I'm sure you understand that we can't release those items that Mr. Huber has, and will be, presenting to the Grand Jury as evidence."

a reply to: The GUT

You really make it easy to tell you are lying. Maybe you should go read the thread because its obvious you have not.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Pyle

How are you feeling today ?

A wee bit dejected I suspect.

You'll get over it at Sunrise 😐

What? Dejected over what? An OIG report that is put out show an agent FBI was trying to hide something he was legally allowed to do hence candor and not perjury or making false statements? What is there to be dejected about? Are you trying to project your own feeling on others because the OIG didnt go as far as you wanted and vindicate Trump?

I am sure you will come up with a new meme talking point shortly to get over your depression.

a reply to: Pyle

The OIG isn't investigating Trump. How would it vindicate Trump? The OIG investigated government agency adherence to rules, policy, and laws. It presents those findings to the appropriate departments. It isn't going to charge McCabe with perjury or false statements because that is not Horowitz job. It's going to document improper procedure. Like "lack of candor" (lying) under oath to investigators multiple times. What is his legal allowance for that, btw?

I wonder why Sessions appointed Huber in connection with Horowitz? Maybe because he needed someone with different powers and scope than Horowitz. A prosecutor. Whose job is to prosecute crimes. Like "perjury". hmm

originally posted by: RadioRobert
a reply to: Pyle

The OIG isn't investigating Trump. How would it vindicate Trump? The OIG investigated government agency adherence to rules, policy, and laws. It presents those findings to the appropriate departments. It isn't going to charge McCabe with perjury or false statements because that is not Horowitz job. It's going to document improper procedure. Like "lack of candor" (lying) under oath to investigators multiple times. What is his legal allowance for that, btw?

I wonder why Sessions appointed Huber in connection with Horowitz? Maybe because he needed someone with different powers and scope than Horowitz. A prosecutor. Whose job is to prosecute crimes. Like "perjury". hmm

Lying under oath and perjury are completely separate things from lack of candor. Odd that people are reading into this what they want McCabe to be guilty of doing. Also if the OIG found evidence of crimes like perjury and lying under oath why did they not mention that in the report? Sure the OIG cant prosecute but they sure as hell can refer criminal actions.

a reply to: Pyle

Yes. Exactly. Perjury and false statements are criminal offenses. Not the job of the OIG to prosecute crimes. So hardly surprising that the OIG report lacks that language and is focused on failures in the department to adhere to policy.

What do you think Huber has been doing in connection with Horowitz since at least November?

originally posted by: RadioRobert
a reply to: Pyle

Yes. Exactly. Perjury and false statements are criminal offenses. Not the job of the OIG to prosecute crimes. So hardly surprising that the OIG report lacks that language and is focused on failures in the department to adhere to policy.

What do you think Huber has been doing in connection with Horowitz since at least November?

So why would the OIG hide criminal activity from their report? They have the power to refer charges and report criminal activity.

a reply to: Pyle

Here, let me help you:

Q: What is an OIG investigation?

A: Generally, an investigation is carried out to resolve specific allegations, complaints, or information concerning possible violations of law, regulation, or policy. In contrast, an OIG audit or evaluation is conducted to examine organizational program performance or financial management matters, typically of a systemic nature. Employees should be aware that media reports sometimes characterize OIG activity as an investigation, when in actuality the activity is an audit or evaluation.

The results of OIG investigations may be used for administrative action by the Department and its bureaus, as well as for criminal and civil action by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ).

Office of the Inspector General

The last statement is key here for understanding the role and difference between the OIG and the DOJ. The OIG investigates and hands that off to the appropriate department (in this case, the DOJ) for further action.



mia culpa, this is the wrong OIG listed above

U.S. Attorney John W. Huber
United States Attorney John W. Huber

John W. Huber has served as the United States Attorney and lead federal law enforcement official in Utah since June 2015. He served for almost two years as a presidentially appointed U.S. Attorney during the Obama Administration. U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions appointed Mr. Huber to continue his service as the U.S Attorney in Utah in March 2017. In August 2017, the United States Senate unanimously confirmed President Donald J. Trump’s appointment of Mr. Huber to serve an additional four years as United States Attorney.

United States Department of Justice

Huber will take action on what information Horowitz and his team find.

Capice?



Regardless of my glaring error above, what RadioRobert says is true; Horowitz and his team investigate, Huber and his team prosecute.

a reply to: Pyle

Horowitz left it to the DOJ to decide what action to take. Huber has apparently been at work long before Sessions revealed he was assigned and grand jury evidence is not revealed so as not to taint a case(s)

ETA: J&C laid it out nicely.

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: RadioRobert
a reply to: Pyle

Yes. Exactly. Perjury and false statements are criminal offenses. Not the job of the OIG to prosecute crimes. So hardly surprising that the OIG report lacks that language and is focused on failures in the department to adhere to policy.

What do you think Huber has been doing in connection with Horowitz since at least November?

So why would the OIG hide criminal activity from their report? They have the power to refer charges and report criminal activity.

"The OIG is issuing this report to the FBI for such action that it deems to be appropriate."

They documented he lied under oath multiple times to investigators. Now it's up to the DOJ/FBI to decide whether to prosecute that criminally or just fire him. They obviously already decided that terminating him was appropriate. They have time to decide whether or not to pursue a criminal case. Maybe they are still investigating principles. Maybe they decide not to prosecute. Maybe they tabled it in exchange for more testimony.

I'm still confused why you think he was "allowed" to lie to investigators at all as a federal employee or under oath in particular. Or why you think he we was allowed to violate policy by leaking into for his benefit.

a reply to: RadioRobert

Yeah and it should be further noted that this "lack of candor" report was carved out of a larger investigation. Meaning that McCabe is smack dab in the middle of the next report that is dealing with politicization as regards both the clearing of Hillary (before she was even interviewed) and FISA abuse in relation to the dossier.

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: KansasGirl
Has anyone had a look at the other thread about this, the one by antediluvian? I can't make myself go over ther yet- I'm afraid that reading the excuses and deflections will get me too angry. Has anyone checked that thread?

Briefly, then the wise old owl I am just.................walked away......

Been slapped too many times for stepping out of line and some threads are just best left alone.

Wise move! I think I'll not even peek in there.

a reply to: The GUT

I can't wait to hear Nunes' revelations about that 2 page document.

Can you? It's sure to blow the lid off that whole FISA thing!