40k year old Denisovan stone braclet?!?! Way more advanced than humans at the time!!

I’m not sure how old this is as I just ran across it..

Appearently in Siberia they have found an INCREDIBLY well tooled stone braclet some are saying was made by a previous branch of homo, the Denisovans.

en.m.wikipedia.org...

That is the wiki on the species..

Here is a link to the article..

www.archaeology.org...



So from the looks of things these guys were wearing intricate jewelry and grinding holes in stone, 40 THOUSAND YEARS AGO?!?!


Humans didn’t start doing the same level of craftsmanship until 8,000 years ago...


Let that sink in..

That’s a 32 THOUSAND YEAR DIFFERENCE!!!


There is so much time for nature to play with it isn’t suprising , really. I think we could even find out there were reptilian Stone Age cultures and many more not based on apes.

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

I’m not sure how old this is as I just ran across it..

Appearently in Siberia they have found an INCREDIBLY well tooled stone braclet some are saying was made by a previous branch of homo, the Denisovans.

en.m.wikipedia.org...

That is the wiki on the species..

Here is a link to the article..

www.archaeology.org...



So from the looks of things these guys were wearing intricate jewelry and grinding holes in stone, 40 THOUSAND YEARS AGO?!?!


Humans didn’t start doing the same level of craftsmanship until 8,000 years ago...


Let that sink in..

That’s a 32 THOUSAND YEAR DIFFERENCE!!!


There is so much time for nature to play with it isn’t suprising , really. I think we could even find out there were reptilian Stone Age cultures and many more not based on apes.

I thought you were sceptical about the pre-Adamite races before. Something you posted about Cain I believe. But I cannot remember yet

Multiple races, multiple species, lost civilizations, all wiped out time and time again with Earth shattering, extinction level events, and all of our archaeologists trying to put everyone together on a single timeline.

This is what happens when you try and do that. Now, we'll wait for some off the wall theory that doesn't make any sense whatsoever to explain it.

Someone had to teach modern humans how to do things. Humans are not the most intelligent beings in history. Think about it, what other species destroys so much environment to make things they do not really need? What other species has killed so many other creatures in this world?

What if they were as human as you and I
A couple of issues, dating is not exact, often out by many thousand years
Also, remember when people thought Neanderhals were considered non human, there is lots more to learn about denisovans

We don't know very much about them at all, calling them cavemen could well be the height of ignorance

Now if we could only get a somewhat complete denisovan skeleton, maybe something to provide context to them as a people.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

Yeah, its good, well crafted and uses multiple components so it's seen as a breakthrough find but check human art 30 to 40 kya and you'll see the context more clearly.

HSS made dolls with moving limbs something like 20 to 40 kya (cba to look it up), the Lionman is 40kya as well as a lot of amazing figurative art at 30kya. I've done a few threads that cover some of this a few years back.

A bow, a straight stick or reed, a strip of animal lace, some water and pumice....... drill a hole.. The ancients evidently knew how much better than we do now.. Stone was their medium for expression. The spoken word and historic events, and many records were carved or represented in stone.

a reply to: bulwarkz

No.. I said I was sceptical about..

A) a civilization that has survived secretly along side our own.. you know reptilian celebrities and such..

B) that a civilization ever achieved ANYWHERE NEAR our own technological level in the past.

C) that those beings are supernatural in nature..


A Stone Age culture that DID NOT survive seems all too likely.. they wouldn’t leave very much behind.. and imagaine over millions of years...

I think at one time the world looked like a fantasy novel.. 5-10 different species of homo. Some short some tall.. some pretty civilized some just basically smart animals.

We as a species are only like 200,000 years old. And there is like a billion plus years with very complex life running around..

a reply to: dothedew

Another smart homo species seems like a decent explanation to me..

There is some chance a homosapian buried it by coincidence in a another species site, maybe..

originally posted by: rickymouse
Someone had to teach modern humans how to do things. Humans are not the most intelligent beings in history. Think about it, what other species destroys so much environment to make things they do not really need? What other species has killed so many other creatures in this world?

Diseases, dinosaurs, insects...

originally posted by: JoshuaCox



Humans didn’t start doing the same level of craftsmanship until 8,000 years ago...


Let that sink in..

That’s a 32 THOUSAND YEAR DIFFERENCE!!!

It is hard to say what is the correct period. We have seen that earlier waves out of Africa actually had better tools than future ones with 10,000s of years in-between. Denisovan is being looked at as the 4th human species, so to say one species was 8,000 years with tool advancement and so is the norm means nothing when we are talking about 4 difference human species.

That was a beautiful bracelet with the leather thong and ring. I would love to have one in Jade.

Stone Age Interpretations

This site offers some wonderfully realised interpretations of stone age life, dress, technology, art etc through various periods. I'd recommend it very highly indeed, it's fascinating and quite an eye opener.

Chlorite is a stone that can be as soft as a hardness of 2.5, so it makes sense it would be used, since it can be easily worked with harder stones. Amazing it was not in bits and pieces since I think Chlorite is fragile.

Working with soft stones is not that far beyond even Bonobo's making tools. Interesting stuff.

a reply to: Blaine91555

Absolutely, i've hand shaped and polished selenite (a form of gympsum iirc) with nowt more than a hard edge and then a leather pad containing it's own dust.

a reply to: skalla

One of my passions from youth. I grew up with a lapidary shop in the basement and with my father collected many tons of gemstone and mineral specimens. My home right now it littered with my current collection. I've had rocks on my brains my whole life almost.

I remember making a stone by hand from Honey Onyx gathered in Utah. Polished it with burlap. Soft stuff though that does not survive well. That must have been in a very protected environment.

I'm sure earlier species would have had their share of savants, that did things that would not be seen again for a long time. Not hard to imagine at all.

This song popped to mind.
"I can do most anything with my own bare hands."
It is an awesome archaeological find.

a reply to: Raggedyman

Neanderthals are still not considered humans.

a reply to: Woodcarver

They very much are. A quick read will solve that.