Protective Clothing Against Nerve Agents.

Salisbury England.

Two people get exposed to a Nerve Agent. People seen in protective clothing all over the place.

Douma Syria.

Hundreds of people get exposed to a Nerve Agent. Not a sign of protective clothing being used by Medical Teams.

Are we really that stupid ?

a reply to: alldaylong

the emperor has no clothes...

a reply to: alldaylong

Isn't the same thing true of the last Syrian gas attack (not this most recent one)? The photographs of "white helmets", insufficient protective clothing, etc.?

Good one, I will keep a tab on this thread

My two cents, maybe in Douma they knew what has been used and it was safe to go there without protection as it was gone by the time, but in the UK it was an unknown substance that required extra safety?

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Nerve agent? It was chlorine gas!

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: alldaylong


Nerve agent? It was chlorine gas!

Really ?

The Syria Civil Defence and SAMS believe those who died suffocated as a result of exposure to toxic chemicals, most likely an organophosphate - a compound grouping associated with pesticides and nerve agents. The UOSSM also concluded that the symptoms of the casualties were consistent with exposure to a nerve agent, possibly one mixed with chlorine. Dr Raphal Pitti of UOSSM France said he thought "chlorine was used to conceal the use of [the nerve agent] Sarin"

www.bbc.co.uk...

a reply to: alldaylong


Fair enough - I did not know that. Have a star.

a reply to: alldaylong

Nerve agents like the suspected Novichuk agent used in England is a lot different thsn the suspected Sarin gas agent used in in Syria. Major differences in fact, not even close

a reply to: DJMSN

Nerve agents like the suspected Novichuk agent used in England is a lot different thsn the suspected Sarin gas agent used in in Syria. Major differences in fact, not even close

Really?

So when dealing with a chemical or Nerve Agent which has contaminated people, there is no need to wear any protection for those who are treating them? Contamination in other words cannot be passed on ?

You learn something new every day.

a reply to: alldaylong

Here is an article from the Guardian describing the rescue response at Douma amid apocalyptic scenes:

The Guardian

These were poorly equipped medical responders and civilians in a war torn hell hole trying their best to help children etc. I therefore doubt very much that they had to hand full CBRN equipment, let alone adequate medical supplies.

Note: This was in a war torn hell hole bombed to rubble, not a peaceful cathedral city in Wiltshire, England so I really fail to see the point of your comparison.

I therefore have to ask, are you really that stupid?

First responders in the west are better equipped.

True story.

a reply to: oldcarpy

I therefore have to ask, are you really that stupid?

More insults from you again. It's becoming the norm.

The reason i bought up this subject, there have been zero reports of medics becoming contaminated.

Why do you think that is?

a reply to: alldaylong


It is a fair question in that you are seeking to compare Douma with Salisbury (which is just plain stupid) in order to push your rather tired and lame agenda. Stupid is as stupid does.

Reports are pretty confused, as one might expect, again, from a bombed out hell hole.

Sarin is not Novichok, either.

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: alldaylong


It is a fair question in that you are seeking to compare Douma with Salisbury (which is just plain stupid) in order to push your rather tired and lame agenda. Stupid is as stupid does.

Reports are pretty confused, as one might expect, again, from a bombed out hell hole.

Sarin is not Novichok, either.

Do you know anything about Sarin ? Obviously not.

Sarin is highly toxic, whether by contact with the skin or breathed in

en.wikipedia.org...

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Were the Skrpals placed in isolation, does anyone know?

Its best to wear protective gear when handling any Chemicals, especially those designed for warfare, duh, lol.

As for people, well some agenst are easily absorbed via respiratory, despite their best attempts at potentially thwarting said chemicals with protective layering.

If a mass casualty event happened involving Chemicals, depending on the type, blisters can be treated, nerve can significantly increase the mortality rate.

You see, one trait of Nerve on the human body is muscle constriction, your body literally spasms out of control, beyond your control and your left helpless as your arms and legs begin curling in the worst ways possible.

a reply to: alldaylong


Got any proof that it was Sarin?

The article that you posted said that "some kind of nerve agent" may have been involved. It may have been Sarin but at the moment nobody actually knows.

It is you that is going on about Sarin but at the moment that remains to be seen.

It seems that you only know about Sarin from looking it up on Wiki so I guess we know about as much about it as eachother.

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originally posted by: Arnie123


You see, one trait of Nerve on the human body is muscle constriction, your body literally spasms out of control, beyond your control and your left helpless as your arms and legs begin curling in the worst ways possible.

We used to describe that as "doing the funky chicken". A little gallows humor makes it seem a little less frightening to those who are trained to clean up this stuff.

a reply to: oldcarpy

Stop making yourself look a fool.

Remember what you posted? Let me remind you here:-

Sarin is not Novichok, either.

And from The BBC Link

"chlorine was used to conceal the use of [the nerve agent] Sarin"

www.bbc.co.uk...