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NYT - Mueller Investigating Ukrainian’s $150,000 Payment for a Trump Appearance

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posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 09:49 PM
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Sources are reporting that Mueller is investigating a campaign contribution or $150 K from a Ukrainian Billionaire. It shall be very interesting if anything comes out of this since this same guy gave the Clintons $13 Million and pledged much more.

If this is their insurance policy, I fear they are going to get backlash on this one.

www.nytimes.com...

www.huffingtonpost.com...



Mueller Reportedly Investigating Ukraine Payment To Trump Foundation
Special counsel Robert Mueller is reportedly looking into a payment that a Ukrainian steel magnate made to President Trump's foundation in exchange for a 20-minute video appearance to a conference.

The New York Times reported Monday that Mueller is investigating the $150,000 donation to the Donald J. Trump Foundation that Ukrainian billionaire Victor Pinchuk made in September 2015, while Trump was seeking the GOP nomination for president.

The payment came after Trump spoke through a video link to a conference in Kiev, according to the Times.



Mueller Reportedly Investigating Trump Links To Ukrainian Who Gave Clintons More Than $13 Million

www.zerohedge.com...




Between 2009 and 2013, including when Mrs. Clinton was secretary of state, the Clinton Foundation received at least $8.6 million from the Victor Pinchuk Foundation, according to that foundation, which is based in Kiev, Ukraine. It was created by Mr. Pinchuk, whose fortune stems from a pipe-making company. He served two terms as an elected member of the Ukrainian Parliament and is a proponent of closer ties between Ukraine and the European Union.

Unsurprisingly, Pinchuk and his family are no angels.

He is the son-in-law of a former president of Ukraine whose administration was marred by endemic corruption and human rights violations - exactly the type of donor who would give to the Clinton Foundation

In 2008, Pinchuk made a five-year $29 million commitment to the Clinton Global Initiative, according to the Wall Street Journal.

All told, Pinchuk gave more than $13 million to the Clinton Foundation since 2006, and promised to give more.


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posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 09:59 PM
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Why is Trump making deals with someone who supports the Clinton Foundation? Also, why is this guy paying his supposed political enemy (Trump) to speak at his event? That's the real head-scratcher here.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 09:59 PM
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That's a lot of money for the Clintons.

Like a nickel to Trump

]He probably didn't even know about it



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 10:00 PM
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a reply to: infolurker

This could potentially be a big one for the folks that think Mueller is a white hat.

That's if the motivation for investigating Pinchuk is secretly for the Clinton Foundation ties and all.




posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 10:01 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

It should be obvious. The guy is a wealthy businessman in the steel trade within Ukraine.

Once a certain amount of wealth is achieved, it's no longer about any political side.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 10:06 PM
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What's wrong with accepting $150,000 from the Ukraine for a speech? Didn't Bill Clinton get more than that for a speech in Russia?



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 10:07 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

Except when it comes to Soros. He's obviously a leftist and would never fund riots to make them look bad or play both sides against each other.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 10:16 PM
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Lets see....Pinchuk has donated more than 13 million dollars
to The Clinton Foundation per the NYT.

13 million vs 150k

This is laughable...



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 10:23 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Soros plan is the same. Control to generate more wealth. He sees a viable avenue and takes it.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 10:23 PM
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I could have sworn that the Ukraine broke away from Russia. It must be the Mandela effect, guess they are still under Putin according to Meuller. If Hillary got a lot more from this guy, how come they aren't investigating her? I personally do not think that our politicians should get any campaign contributions from anyone who is not an American and the money should be all American, no out of country people sneaking money in through sketchy channels. That means we need to change the laws back to what they used to be.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 10:30 PM
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The guy paid both as a tribute. There is no deal involved usually in these cases. He knows that USA has geopolitical interest in Ukraine, so he pays both sides as a gesture of showing respect. Many businessmen pay all the major political powers involved.
Political donations is all about respect and paying tribute, like mafia guys showing respect by giving envelopes of money. They show respect like this to receive protection.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 10:36 PM
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a reply to: infolurker

Some other things to know about Victor Pinchuk.

1. It was Carter Page's relationship with Victor Pinchuk that landed him the gig opening the Merrill Lynch office in Moscow in 2004.

2. In 2005, Victor Pinchuk and Rinat Akhmetov purchased Ukraine's largest steel producer, Krivorozhstal. After Viktor Yushchenko defeated Yanukovych (and survived dioxin poisoning that should have killed him), Yulia Tymoshenko became PM and launched an anti-corruption initiative. One of the first things she did was to reverse the sale of Krivorozhstal which was then publicly auctioned. It sold for $4.8 billion, essentially costing the two oligarchs about $4 billion dollars.

3. Rinat Akhmetov was one of the largest backers (possibly largest backer) of the Party of Regions. It was Akhmetov that Paul Manafort was working for in 2005 when he was introduced to Yanukovych by Akhmetov.

4. After Manafort then go the massively corrupt Putin-puppet Yanukovych elected, Tymoshenko was subjected to a bunch of trumped up corruption investigations and eventually imprisoned until Yanukovych was deposed.

5. Bonus, the company that bought Krivorozhstal was Mittal which then merged with Arcelor, forming ArcelorMittal. Wilbur Ross was on the board of ArcelorMittal until he resigned after being confirmed as Commerce Secretary.

ETA:

Pinchuk is married to former Ukrainian President Leonid Kuchma's daughter, Olena. Yanukovych had been PM under Kuchma and he was Kuchma's chosen successor as President.
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posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 10:38 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships
Lets see....Pinchuk has donated more than 13 million dollars
to The Clinton Foundation per the NYT.

13 million vs 150k

This is laughable...

Pro-tip:
It always helps to write the numbers out when there is that much discrepancy. Drives it home.

$13,000,000
-----$150,000



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 10:39 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian
Are you A.I.? Your depth of knowledge never ceases to amaze me.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 10:51 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Well in this case, I had posted about this in a thread before the election. It started out with reading what could find about Carter Page. That led to Pinchuk. A bit before then, I had been doing some research into Manafort so I knew about Akhmetov and how Manafort had come to work for Yanukovych/PoR.

Side Note: If Donald Trump would just Google people before he hired them, he probably could save himself a lot of trouble. Though, some of his oldest friends were also old friends of Manafort's.

Anyway, looking into Pinchuk is how I ended reading about the steel factory deal and when I saw Akhmetov's name, a big red flag was raised. Considering the dates all this was happening (2004-2005), I wondered if perhaps Manafort and Page had become acquainted in that period but from everything I've read since, that doesn't seem to be the case.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 10:59 PM
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Sounds like something an AI would say...



Didn't you say you kept files with connections or links at some point? I admire your commitment!



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 11:02 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

I heard they used your thread as evidence Exhibit A when they got the warrant.




posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 11:07 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Why is Trump making deals with someone who supports the Clinton Foundation? Also, why is this guy paying his supposed political enemy (Trump) to speak at his event? That's the real head-scratcher here.


How is he supporting the Ukrainian? It's the other way around. Secondly, it's not at all uncommon that wealthy people donate to both parties. Much like the parties idiots fight sides over, they only care that whoever ends up in office will listening to their demands. The Ukrainian doesn't care if Trump or Hillary wins, he cares that whoever wins is in his back pocket. That being said, if I had a dollar for everything dems carried foul over that they actually did a thousand worse, I'd be filthy rich.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 11:14 PM
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Pinchuk is hard one to peg. He was in the Labour Ukraine party when he was a member of parliament. Labour Ukraine was Kuchma's party from which Party of Regions seems to have splintered in some part. Labour Ukraine, despite what the name might imply, is right-wing, pro-Russia and Eurosceptic.

And yet, Pinchuk has friends like Bill Clinton, Tony Blair and Elton John and some years after getting out of politics, he had put together some sort of consortium geared toward getting Ukraine into the EU.

He also lost a big chunk of what was effectively $4 billion, along with the PoR benefactor Akhmetov, when the US-backed candidate came defeated the Kremlin-backed Yanukovych and their deal was subsequently reversed.

Let's just say he has what appear to be some biographical contradictions.



posted on Apr, 9 2018 @ 11:17 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

What they won't tell us is that they actually used 5 YouTube videos.
"They" threatened to block Pornhub on all of Nunes's devices if he put it in his memo which is why Trey Gowdy was like "f this."




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