Russia can't stop chemical weapons attacks in countries they oversee? Why?

Why cannot the Super power of Russia, who is working directly with the Syrian regime prevent these ignorant chemical attacks in the region...

Are the Russian influences that limited?

Or influencing the ignorance?

What if any is or could be the benefit

I'm not so sure Russia is the culprit, but it could be.

Nothing to gain... as you say indeed.

Who is to gain? Ask yourself that question.

Regional instability and blaming Russia... Now who would gain from that?

How would Russian's stop CIA funded terrorists from attacking anything with anything every time before it happens?

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When someone says you stole something from the local mart which you have never been to what can you do? What makes you think the accusations of Syrian chemical attracts are not false flag attacks to try and generate more help to over throw the present government.

Russia, Iran, and Syria are winning against the western backed rebels... They the west, Saudi, and Israel are losing face and need a new rah rah cause..

Believe what you want but the Syrian war is going Syria's way and not the rebels way.. Even the incursion by Turkey has limits and they know it.

Im not bashing Russian people for their oppression standards are understood...

Nor is 1 wishing for a major world war between super powers which only places the common man in harm's way why allowing the should be abducted ignorant to reign free to oversee again with ignorant eyes. So no-one misunderstand.

It is just sad and primitive that in this day mankind still finds ways to chemical attack/destroy itself in such harsh ways.

I wish us ALL* the best, though my optimism is constantly tested.

a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

Perhaps the Russian government don't disagree with their use or perhaps there is an ulterior motive for their use.

originally posted by: 727Sky
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Russia, Iran, and Syria are winning against the western backed rebels... They the west, Saudi, and Israel are losing face and need a new rah rah cause..

So with no facts you blame the west including USA, Saudi, and Israel?
Making sure I understand you clearly?

originally posted by: Ophiuchus 13
Why cannot the Super power of Russia, who is working directly with the Syrian regime prevent these ignorant chemical attacks in the region...

Are the Russian influences that limited?

Or influencing the ignorance?

What if any is or could be the benefit

Hello. My first post on this forum!
Re the benifits, there are none. Trump announced that the US was leaving Syria. Syria and russia have NOTHING to gain from using chemical weapons and EVERYTHING to lose. They were about to get everything they wanted. They just needed to sit back and not draw any more attention and avoid become bigger international pariahs than they already are.

The free syria army however, has everything to gain from being the victim of a chemical attack. It would pull the US and maybe the international community into the conflict again and avoid the their own execution/political prisoner term that is sure to follow once Assad consolidates power.

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Also if Russia, Iran, and Syria are winning why cannot they prevent these chemical attacks?

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Thanks for your thought out post Whoisjohngalt

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

Perhaps the Russian government don't disagree with their use or perhaps there is an ulterior motive for their use.

Could be Russia is either doing or allowing these attacks because the know the west will keep in the conflict due to them. Russia uses them as propaganda to push the Russia vs west view point plus ties up assets of the west away from place like Ukraine.

Germany can't even protect it's own citizens so ?! it's not about countries , it's the global elite against humanity.

originally posted by: Ophiuchus 13

originally posted by: 727Sky
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Russia, Iran, and Syria are winning against the western backed rebels... They the west, Saudi, and Israel are losing face and need a new rah rah cause..

So with no facts you blame the west including USA, Saudi, and Israel?
Making sure I understand you clearly?

This is the short version from "Israel bias no less" but you can take a few minutes and check other sources...Then come to your own decision. Syria and their allies have nothing to gain while while west has everything to gain by Claiming mean old Syria is at it again..
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The people firing the gas canisters were trained in Jordan (and probably else where)... There are several sources and even pictures showing the type of crude artillery used to deliver the payload.

I was not there so I would not bet the farm on any of the propaganda we are fed. But common sense says just like the last false flag B.S. Sarin gas attack Syria did not do it.

The Russians and the Syrian government knew an attack was coming for some months now. youtu.be...


Like I implied you believe what you want.. This is not my first Rodeo and I am extremely jaded on the reasons the USA and its' war dogs are there in the first place.

a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

They didn't stop the attack in Britain but either did the US ... They have foiled some attacks though

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But why would USA instigate if there are plans to leave knowing that may lock them further in?

originally posted by: Ophiuchus 13
a reply to: 727Sky

Also if Russia, Iran, and Syria are winning why cannot they prevent these chemical attacks?

It is still a warzone. Iraq was an occupied nation and there were still building full of weapons and explosives. If the attacks were by the free syria army, in an area that the free Syrian army controlled, there would be little that Assads forces could do about it. He is winning in a very loose sense of the word, and it would be hard to truly control enemy territory before you are able to occupy it. The reports are "barrel bombs" were thrown from helicopters, so it could be that during the bombing by the syrian army, the free syrian army could have released chemical weapons to make it look like Assads forces did it. Or there is some rogue faction of assads forces that actually dropped chemical weapons. I mean, both sides in syria are comprised of a dozen "colorful" factions. In which case you will see Assad pick a few of his least favorite generals for a show trial/execution. Or Assad actually chemed the rebels knowing that it would risk atleast a few tomahawks flying into syria, and regieme change at the very worst, in a civil war that he just needs time to win. That doesnt make sense to me. Unless it was some kind of test like when the russians sent in those russian mercenaries.

Interesting...

originally posted by: Ophiuchus 13
But why would USA instigate if there are plans to leave knowing that may lock them further in?

War is money for the elite warmongers.

Trump has no intention of leaving. By saying what he said, he has covered his back and can now say, 'I Tried to leave Syria'.

He met the pope and that shows who controls Trump. Trump has already complied with the Bible by agreeing that the capital of Israel is Jerusalem. Next month the US Embassy moves. Expect huge chaotic events to happen now.

Buckle up for a war now between Russia and America where the 2 superpowers will be almost terminated. Then the Antichrist takes over with the 3rd Temple in Jerusalem.

There is a huge oil reserve below the Valley of Megiddo. America will stay in the M.E. for this reason alone. The Bible states that all armies will be destroyed in the Valley of Megiddo (Armageddon).

Now how did the Bible know all of this long ago ? hmmmmmm

originally posted by: Rapha

originally posted by: Ophiuchus 13
But why would USA instigate if there are plans to leave knowing that may lock them further in?

War is money for the elite warmongers.

Trump has no intention of leaving. By saying what he said, he has covered his back and can now say, 'I Tried to leave Syria'.

He met the pope and that shows who controls Trump. Trump has already complied with the Bible by agreeing that the capital of Israel is Jerusalem. Next month the US Embassy moves. Expect huge chaotic events to happen now.

Buckle up for a war now between Russia and America where the 2 superpowers will be almost terminated. Then the Antichrist takes over with the 3rd Temple in Jerusalem.

There is a huge oil reserve below the Valley of Megiddo. America will stay in the M.E. for this reason alone. The Bible states that all armies will be destroyed in the Valley of Megiddo (Armageddon).

Now how did the Bible know all of this long ago ? hmmmmmm

If Russia and the United States are in a war to the point where both parties are almost terminated, how is the U.S. going to retain any force projection ability, let alone the ability to have any influence regarding oil under israel... We are either going to be in the picture at full strength (for the FORESEEABLE future) Or things here at home have gotten so truly f'd in the a that we are going to be on the sidelines at the international level while americans are eating roasted rat fighting off radioactive mutants.

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Trump wants us out... Now who do you think wants us to stay (probably the same asshats who are blaming Russia for everything evil in this world is the answer to myself) What could get us to beef up and expand even further..? Babies in Incubators killed...naw been there done that...weapons of mass destruction....well chemical weapons are a form of indiscriminate WMDs let pull out that play book one more time and see how it goes.. We will get everyone to point their fingers at the Syrian regime and its' mean allies.. We will parade the dead and dying victims before the cameras of all the news networks and build up a new head of full steam/hate ...

Hey I am just a screen name on ATS so take what I am saying as just so many electrons floating over the internet... and again you believe what you want as I will believe what I want until proven wrong...

At this stage of the Syrian conflict I tend to believe if the invaders from our block completely pulled out before we turn Syria into another Libya the world would be a better place.. The west or our block (to include Israel and Saudi) want to take a bite out of Iran.. we want to stop them from interfering in the Suni domination of the Mid East... Israel and Saudi are big buds now all because of Iran's expansion and influence. youtu.be... A bad scenario is a possible event in the very near future... I for one hope this does not go down the way it is looking.. Sometimes IMO you just can not fix stupid... and this is a stupid war for all kinds of stupid reasons..