So, my brother just informed me he's a Freemason...should I be concerned?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

So you mean 'yep' - freemasons don't pay speeding fines because all police are freemasons.

That's what I'm saying. Every single cop is a Mason.

And the judges too.

Screw you sheeples.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

So you mean 'yep' - freemasons don't pay speeding fines because all police are freemasons.

That's what I'm saying. Every single cop is a Mason.

And the judges too.

Screw you sheeples.

Not only do you exemplify the reason why moral decay in America is plummeting. You personify, and invigorate the ill will, that normal people have toward freakmasons.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Heard that? It's all your fault for all this moral decay lol.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Thoseaintcontrails
Why not just say belief in a god is a requirement instead of supreme being?

Because not everyone speaks English and 'God' is an English word.

The G in freemason stands for God correct, why isnt the symbol an S instead?

Secondarily, and only in non-UGLE jurisdictions. Primarily it refers to Geometry.

God is a Greek word and so is Geometry. Do masons put math before god? What is a non ugle?

ask him to teach you the secret hand shakes, and phrases.
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originally posted by: KSigMason
a reply to: mytquin
No need to be concerned.

a reply to: one4all
The Essential Secrets of masonry indeed are Everlastingly Safe & never can be Revealed abroad, because they can never be understood by such as are unenlightened.
--A Dissertation upon Masonry (1734)

Freemasonry is not a gang (in the criminal sense it is used today as) nor a religion. Nor are we making decisions that subvert the will of the People. Nor is Freemasonry any form of terrorism nor is it about controlling humanity.

a reply to: dug88
We are speculative, or philosophical, Masons not operative ones. One can be both if he chooses.

a reply to: Thoseaintcontrails
You are incorrect, but then you seem to have a superiority complex because you're an atheist.

I will try to be direct and absolute.....using a hypothetical dynamic.....here we go.....I as a member of We The People for reasons only known to myself decide I would like to learn ALL of the available knowledge possessed by said group....if I ask freely will I receive freely.....no initiate processes no learning curve...simple acess to everything in existence.....full stop.

I ask this question because the internet provides substantially more relevant data than any individual group on Earth...there are no secrets...not anymore.....Secret Societies et al must now compete with the Internet for their customer base or source of substantiation.

Earth science is now going mainstream...the so-called occult arts are soon going to be like Art Classes are today.....all that is hidden shall become known...from the hidden kernel of the acorn rises the mighty Oak.

The hidden part was in play for a REASON...a very good one...this concerns ALL archaic groups like Secret Societies and Religons....however this was not intended to be an eternal state of suppression....there is a CYCLE attached to the lifespan of these groups....unless the NATURAL COMPONENT OF SAID LIFESPAN IS INDUCED TO CONTINUE BEYOND ITS SUBSCRIBED LENGTH which is exactly what has been done in ALL CASES FOR I SEE NONE BENG OPEN AND TRANSPARANT even in these end times.

It is imperative that ALL Secret Societies and Religons et al fully disclose their complete knowledge bases to greater Humanity.

The Horn has now been sounded by Daniel of the Lion 444.

It is time for the seed to be sown...the ground is its most abundant and fertile now.

A secret is not meant to be kept forever....it is not meant to be buried....it is meant to preserve something from the masses which will eventually become a part of the masses....has anyone given the members of these societies sects and doctrinal catalyst a TIMELINE for when the secrets are to be RELEASED FROM THEIR BONDAGE......because if you are a member of anything resembeling one of these groups and you do not have in your possesion personal knowledge of the exact release date of the secrets you conspire to keep knowingly or unknowingly....well then ask yourself why you dont known when the secrets are suppossed to be let out.

All major doctrinal writings like the Bible and the Quoran and the Vedic Texts and any steming from these are all coded versions of Humanities History.....its tangible history no dieties included whatsoever...none...this is not a judgement as to the reality nor validity of the existence of dietys the evidence simply proves all of these major doctrines along with the constellation of spin-offs they have spawned originate from one single document.....Humanities One True History....every iota of diety based doctrinal manipulation has been added in layers post-haste.

There is only one secret common to ALL of these groups discussed in my reply, the natural cyclical nature of Humanities structured existance upon this planet.....the correct timeline of the changes.....every single conspiracy truth online is connected to this secret.We are in fact on the INTERNET on this specific SITE having this specific DISCUSSION because of this secret....everything about the dynamic I just outlined has been indirectly manifested because of this secret.

As evidence that it is time to release ALL knowledge.....provide a reasonable relevant clue to one of the deepest most tightly kept secrets being held to vest....form it as a question that can ONLY BE ANSWERED if some specific part of your secret is know....and I will give you the complete and full secret and not only that I will begin to take that secret in both directions its past and its future.Why it became a secret and when it is to be released.....we can repeat this process and as long as you are true to your evidence I will reveal your secrets and we will ALWAYS come back to the same waypoints taking us back to the original reality from which the secret was manifested to begin with and EVENTUALLY you yourself will learn what is likely being kept from most members of all these groups which is the timeline for the secret to be released from its bondage and from your care.

P.S....during my lifetime I have been at different times working around people in groups like this and have been privately and furtively given quirky little handshakes and other signals when specific topics like these were in discussion in depth along with some super-inquisitive penetrating stares waiting for confirmation.........mature at ease confident men always stimulating open-ended conversation .

originally posted by: one4all

originally posted by: KSigMason
a reply to: mytquin
No need to be concerned.

a reply to: one4all
The Essential Secrets of masonry indeed are Everlastingly Safe & never can be Revealed abroad, because they can never be understood by such as are unenlightened.
--A Dissertation upon Masonry (1734)

Freemasonry is not a gang (in the criminal sense it is used today as) nor a religion. Nor are we making decisions that subvert the will of the People. Nor is Freemasonry any form of terrorism nor is it about controlling humanity.

a reply to: dug88
We are speculative, or philosophical, Masons not operative ones. One can be both if he chooses.

a reply to: Thoseaintcontrails
You are incorrect, but then you seem to have a superiority complex because you're an atheist.

I will try to be direct and absolute.....using a hypothetical dynamic.....here we go.....I as a member of We The People for reasons only known to myself decide I would like to learn ALL of the available knowledge possessed by said group....if I ask freely will I receive freely.....no initiate processes no learning curve...simple acess to everything in existence.....full stop.

I ask this question because the internet provides substantially more relevant data than any individual group on Earth...there are no secrets...not anymore.....Secret Societies et al must now compete with the Internet for their customer base or source of substantiation.

Earth science is now going mainstream...the so-called occult arts are soon going to be like Art Classes are today.....all that is hidden shall become known...from the hidden kernel of the acorn rises the mighty Oak.

The hidden part was in play for a REASON...a very good one...this concerns ALL archaic groups like Secret Societies and Religons....however this was not intended to be an eternal state of suppression....there is a CYCLE attached to the lifespan of these groups....unless the NATURAL COMPONENT OF SAID LIFESPAN IS INDUCED TO CONTINUE BEYOND ITS SUBSCRIBED LENGTH which is exactly what has been done in ALL CASES FOR I SEE NONE BENG OPEN AND TRANSPARANT even in these end times.

It is imperative that ALL Secret Societies and Religons et al fully disclose their complete knowledge bases to greater Humanity.

The Horn has now been sounded by Daniel of the Lion 444.

It is time for the seed to be sown...the ground is its most abundant and fertile now.

A secret is not meant to be kept forever....it is not meant to be buried....it is meant to preserve something from the masses which will eventually become a part of the masses....has anyone given the members of these societies sects and doctrinal catalyst a TIMELINE for when the secrets are to be RELEASED FROM THEIR BONDAGE......because if you are a member of anything resembeling one of these groups and you do not have in your possesion personal knowledge of the exact release date of the secrets you conspire to keep knowingly or unknowingly....well then ask yourself why you dont known when the secrets are suppossed to be let out.

All major doctrinal writings like the Bible and the Quoran and the Vedic Texts and any steming from these are all coded versions of Humanities History.....its tangible history no dieties included whatsoever...none...this is not a judgement as to the reality nor validity of the existence of dietys the evidence simply proves all of these major doctrines along with the constellation of spin-offs they have spawned originate from one single document.....Humanities One True History....every iota of diety based doctrinal manipulation has been added in layers post-haste.

There is only one secret common to ALL of these groups discussed in my reply, the natural cyclical nature of Humanities structured existance upon this planet.....the correct timeline of the changes.....every single conspiracy truth online is connected to this secret.We are in fact on the INTERNET on this specific SITE having this specific DISCUSSION because of this secret....everything about the dynamic I just outlined has been indirectly manifested because of this secret.

As evidence that it is time to release ALL knowledge.....provide a reasonable relevant clue to one of the deepest most tightly kept secrets being held to vest....form it as a question that can ONLY BE ANSWERED if some specific part of your secret is know....and I will give you the complete and full secret and not only that I will begin to take that secret in both directions its past and its future.Why it became a secret and when it is to be released.....we can repeat this process and as long as you are true to your evidence I will reveal your secrets and we will ALWAYS come back to the same waypoints taking us back to the original reality from which the secret was manifested to begin with and EVENTUALLY you yourself will learn what is likely being kept from most members of all these groups which is the timeline for the secret to be released from its bondage and from your care.

P.S....during my lifetime I have been at different times working around people in groups like this and have been privately and furtively given quirky little handshakes and other signals when specific topics like these were in discussion in depth along with some super-inquisitive penetrating stares waiting for confirmation.........mature at ease confident men always stimulating open-ended conversation .

Im too drunk to read all of that, but the part about there being more knowledge on the internet is interesting and how the societies must compete.

originally posted by: Violater1
Not only do you exemplify the reason why moral decay in America is plummeting. You personify, and invigorate the ill will, that normal people have toward freakmasons.

Ask me if I care what you think.

originally posted by: Thoseaintcontrails
God is a Greek word and so is Geometry.

You need to check your etymology.

What is a non ugle?

If you're going to debate the point at least familiarize yourself with the nomenclature.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Thoseaintcontrails
God is a Greek word and so is Geometry.

You need to check your etymology.

What is a non ugle?

If you're going to debate the point at least familiarize yourself with the nomenclature.

Im just telling you what google said. I looked up ugle too.
You didnt respond to my question. Do masons value math over god or are they equal?

originally posted by: Thoseaintcontrails
Im just telling you what google said.

I'm not here to do your homework:

God: etymology

I looked up ugle too.

United Grand Lodge of England.

You didnt respond to my question. Do masons value math over god or are they equal?

No, we totally love algebra more than anything else, it lets us calculate how many people to sacrifice each day.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

What do they do with all the bollocks they collect in the initiation? As we all know you give up one bollocks when you get a funny hat.
So what do they do with them? My mate reckons they go in red bull but I'm not sure.

a reply to: testingtesting


Juggle them like circus clowns.

a reply to: Violater1

...and what, pray, does your statement say about you? Other than an intolerance to differing beliefs, I mean?

a reply to: mytquin

Nothing to be concerned about, if he told you he was a Christian you wouldn't be scared right?

You should run, and probably change your name, he knows that you know now, and family is always the first they come for once they reach a certain rank. Like zombies

Your days are numbered

a reply to: Thoseaintcontrails
Hi, Thoseaintcontrails. The Greek for "God" is actually "Θεός" (pronounced "Theos", as in eg Theosophy and other derivational words like Theology), but you then admitted to being a bit plastered, so I'd rather just be cool about it. Hey, on a Sunday, why not?

AM already addressed the etymology of the English word "God", but as his link isn't formed correctly I can confirm it's basically of Germanic origin. Not Greek.

Just BTW I'm not sure how closely your queries to AM relate to the subject of the OP, but at least you're discussing the same basic topic of Freemasonry. (I'm not a Mason, BTW. Was invited to join some decades ago but declined as it was not open to women and that didn't sit well with me. Sorry about that, AM. I doubt you'll be concerned.)

originally posted by: JustMike
AM already addressed the etymology of the English word "God", but as his link isn't formed correctly I can confirm it's basically of Germanic origin. Not Greek.

Oops. Here it is:

God: Etymology.

Sorry about that, AM. I doubt you'll be concerned.

Totally cool with me.

a reply to: mytquin
I figured I should put in my 2c here.

Short answer: no, there's no reason to be concerned. I could have become a Mason 30-plus years ago when I was invited to join. I declined (for reasons set out in my previous post here), but the friend who invited me was -- like many Masons, tbh -- just an ordinary guy. Nothing creepy/weird/NWO/power-hungry about him. He was also OK with my reasons for declining the invitation.

Just to be clear, that kind of invitation is no guarantee you'll be admitted. You still need to go through the initiation. But I simply wasn't inclined to join.

Are there creepy/weird/NWO/power-hungry types in the Masons? Oh, probably. And plenty who aren't as well. Just like the real world ouside of that "brotherhood". Yes, to me, it was just a "brotherhood" kind of thing and frankly, I got plenty of brotherhood-style interaction going league bowling every week. On mixed teams... I did not see "brotherhood" as a gender-based thing back then, and I don't see it that way now.

But your brother? I'd say congratulate him and wish him well. It's always a personal choice, and he chose to join. I chose not to. In either case, I would guess there are pluses and minuses. I'm not bothered by that.