From the depth of the Space a Rogue Planet emerges, we will learn of extraterrestrial life

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: one4all


Zeta Talk? Nancy Lieder?

You need to have a serious word with yourself.

Nancys methods are interesting,the channeling stuff I do not really subscribe to,but I don't care how she packages it,her data is critical to many people in terms of macro-preperation,TPTB have prevented anyone with conventional credibility from sharing the truths and important data so people have had to make it always seem edgy or entertainment value or spooky.

I was sat in front of a big TV in the 70s and a strobe type of light was turned on while I watched thousands of pictures flick by timed to the strobes,and I have to give this as my explanation as to how I have come to my findings and conclusions.IMHO my story is as nutty as Nancys.....but it seems that this is how it shall be....and it shall be Global Continental Displacement Waves.

a reply to: oldcarpy

Yes, you are quite right the correct term is eccentricity of an ellipse, in this case it refers to the orbit of the unknown planet, as you can see there is an automatic corrector running when somebody writes down any reply and in many occasions it replaces automatically what it feels is lacking context, the problem is that many times it also commit mistakes since the context for which it was programmed is the standard language not the mathematical one.

Thanks to call my attention to the correct spelling of the term ,

The Angel of Lightness

This sum 227 earthquakes of intensity 7 or above in Richter scale around the world since January 1st of 2000, in other words along a little more than 18 years.

Actually, there have been 282 such earthquakes since the turn of the century. Also, the Richter scale is quite obsolete.

This is a huge increase in mega seismic activity around the world, more than 5 times what it was registered previously, considering that in the decade from 1991 to 1999 there were only 30 earthquakes around the world reaching the intensity of 7 or above in Richter scale, and in the decade from 1981 to 1990 there were just 12.

Well that Japan earthquake in 2010 produced a lot of aftershocks, 24 7+ quakes that year. Well above average. But your numbers are incorrect. From 1991 to 1999 there were 136 such earthquakes, and from 1981 to 1990 there were 121. Sooo...

Let's look at another 18 year period; 1960-1978, there were 260 7+ earthquakes.



What happened in 2017? There were only 7 such quakes. Has the danger passed?
earthquake.usgs.gov...




I too am unclear on how a distant planet could cause earthquakes but not affect the orbits of planets and moons.
More Earthquakes?

a reply to: The angel of light

So we're going to be saved by aliens - what happened your Lady saving the Planet?

You never mentioned aliens then either

"Angel of Lightness predictions for 2018"
www.abovetopsecret.com...

You really should be more polite to those who would question and try to discuss your threads.

Could it be? Sirius b?

a reply to: Phage

I don't think he understands how close a planet would need to be to cause earth quakes. I'm sure it would be easy to spot when it slams in to the moon.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Have you ever been taught about celestial beings, let me help you a little, have you heard before of angels, archangels or cherubims?

Are not them usually what appear depicted in a tradition of centuries bellow the feet of the lady you refer to?

So what is surprising you so much here?

Ah, are you expecting to see wings?

Come on this is a thread for adults, or you were expecting that somebody two or more thousand years ago know what was antigravity, antimatter or perhaps cold fusion?

Do you know that the Hebrews until our days do not think Jesus was the Messiah since one of the neighbors of Mary's paternal house saw what he thought was perhaps a man in armory salutating her, talking to her nine months before the Nativity?

They also were expecting like you to see Angels or archangels with wings, descending romantically from heaven as messengers from God.

Welcome to the first encounter that is of course not that, but a reencounter with old friends, visitors from really far distance.

The Angel of Lightness

In order for any celestial object to cause any kind of earthquakes here on Earth, it would have be quite close to us.

Earth's gravitational influence drops so low after 1.5 million miles that after that distance, the Sun's gravity is the strongest.

Even as big and massive as Jupiter is, it's gravity has very little effect on the Earth.

Even with another rocky planet 10 times the size of Earth, it would have to be quite close to us, much closer than Mars or Venus ever gets, and that would make it quite visible to just the naked eye.

This is very basic knowledge when it comes to physics and orbital mechanics.

Just remember that:

F=G(m1m2)/r^2

In order for a planet (Planet 9 as they are suggesting) that's 20 AU out to cause earthquakes, would have to have a mass so large, that it would skew the orbits of all the planets in our solar system. Which is not the case.

So even with a thin crust, a mantel and core, it would have to be a very large gravitational force to move things around on the Earth. So large that it would change our orbit around the sun so that it would be much more elliptical...taking us out of the green zone to where we'd fry and freeze.

originally posted by: The angel of light
a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Have you ever been taught about celestial beings, let me help you a little, have you heard before of angels, archangels or cherubims?

Are not them usually what appear depicted in a tradition of centuries bellow the feet of the lady you refer to?

So what is surprising you so much here?

Ah, are you expecting to see wings?

Come on this is a thread for adults, or you were expecting that somebody two or more thousand years ago know what was antigravity, antimatter or perhaps cold fusion?

Do you know that the Hebrews until our days do not think Jesus was the Messiah since one of the neighbors of Mary's paternal house saw what he thought was perhaps a man in armory salutating her, talking to her nine months before the Nativity?

They also were expecting like you to see Angels or archangels with wings, descending romantically from heaven as messengers from God.

Welcome to the first encounter that is of course not that, but a reencounter with old friends, visitors from really far distance.

The Angel of Lightness

Taking it a bit further many of the races we see visiting Earth are our DIRECT relatives and are NATIVE to this Planet....and yes some have vastly different technology...some close to ours and some far far ahead.

a reply to: one4all

Please prove it....or please don't keep throwing "ideas" around as truths. I'd love to believe but nothing has come across as evidence to me....yet.

originally posted by: Gothmog
Sounds like a bad Zecharia Sitchin translation of old Sumerian documents . Now , long debunked.

www.space.com...

a reply to: eriktheawful

Well, that depends of the exact mass of the planet we would be interacting with, something right now still lives in the realm of mystery and it is subject to speculation by scientists that have detected its gravitational influence over the solar system.

Mass is a critical unknown here, since even the apparent size is not good enough to calculate it's gravitational pull over the earth.

Thanks

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: The angel of light

I'm afraid you still don't understand: we don't have to know an exact mass, but we DO know the effects of gravitational acceleration and orbital mechanics.

In order for a planet to be as far as they are proposing for Planet 9 to have any real effect on the Earth (IE causing tidal pulling of the Earth's crust to cause earthquakes), it would have to have extreme mass, and due to that, it would not have just an effect on the Earth. It would change the orbits of planets closer to it. This is not happening. The only things they have seen is Kuiper Belt objects (which are quite small and much, much closer).

If it were much closer to us, and massive enough to cause effects strong enough on Earth, it would be quite visible....and would also have an effect on the planets near us (Mars and Venus).

Look at how small Mars is compared to the Earth. At it's closest, it's only 54 million kilometers away. However, even when it's much farther way, it can still be seen at night, with the naked eye. The only reason we can't see it when it's at it's farthest from us, 401 million kilometers, is because the sun is in the way.

Jupiter's mass is 317 times that of Earth's.....and yet even that big, once you get about 53 million kilometers from it, it's gravity is no longer dominate, but the Sun's gravity is.

It's called the Hill Sphere Radius. Here is the formula for figuring it out:



You can use this online calculator to figure out any bodie's Hill Sphere:

Online Hill Sphere Calculator

So we don't need to know something's exact mass to know whether or not it's there, simply because of the effect it would or would not have on other objects and our observations of them.

Considering the number of amateur astronomers out there that keep track of planetary positions of our known planets and other celestial bodies, if any of them were changing in their orbits, we would know about it, and we'd certainly would know if the Earth was being changed in it's orbit.

The only way you'd get something that effects only the Earth, and then again not change it's orbit either, would be if the Earth itself was in orbit around a massive body (like the moon Io is around Jupiter, which between Jupiter and it's other moons is constantly pulling and squeezing it, hence all the volcanic activity on it, and most likely many quakes too).

Or a body with significant mass orbiting the Earth itself....which would be quite visible, and with a mass that high, our ocean tides would be HUGE compared to what they are now.

Neither one is the case.

a reply to: eriktheawful

Well,

First at all, the visibility of the planet as I can see you assume it, from your own replies depends entirely on your expectation that it might be orbiting or traveling for the case of a rogue one on the ecliptic, in other words in the same plane of rotation of earth , Mars, Venus, and all the other known planets around the sun.

If the planet is orbiting or approaching in a different plane, specially on one located at a huge angle with respect to the ecliptic, anything from 45 degrees to almost perpendicular with that plane, it may be at a distance of Mars from us and remain almost hidden in the horizon, only really visible either from the north pole or south pole depending the slope of that angle.

The angle of its trajectory around our star with respect to the ecliptic must be really small to assure the nice visibility you claim may have now.

I don't think honestly Mars is a good example to try to estimate anything here, first because that is a planet smaller than earth,so it is not a representative and second since the scientists of CalTech have already warned us to expect to find an unknown planet causing all this gravitational pull of a mass close to Uranus or Neptune ones.

Finally, there are studies based on rigorous analysis of astronomical data that suggest there is a correlation of increment of quakes in earth and planetary conjunctions, like the one here below.

Pls check

cura.free.fr...

Thanks

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: The angel of light

it may be at a distance of Mars from us and remain almost hidden in the horizon, only really visible either from the north pole or south pole depending the slope of that angle.

You do know we live on a globe?


Something visible in the sky from the South Pole will be Visible in Australia and most if not all of the Southern Hemisphere

a reply to: The angel of light

You're forgetting the Earth is a spherical object with 7 billion people living in both the northern and southern hemisphere.

Polaris, the North star is visible to people on the equator. It's on the horizon, but it's there.

This argument was used quite a bit back in 2012 for Nibiru, and was debunked over and over and over again: you can't hide something by having it directly North or South, unless it is a very small object, only a few miles away from the surface.

Even if something like that were that highly inclined in it's orbit, or direction, the gravitational effect of it's Hill Sphere would not change.

a reply to: eriktheawful
: InhaleExhale

No I am not forgetting that at all, but again anything closer with apparent position near to the point Polaris is on the sky may even be blocked from our observation precisely by the light of that star.

That's is more likely if it would be a rogue planet coming into the solar system from the outer limits of it.

The same can be said of any rogue planet coming on along a path that appears from our perspective near to the appsrent position of any known close star.

The trajectory of approaching is critical to facilitates or make very difficult the sightings.

Again, this is Not a Nibiru thread, you don't have need to mention it, we are not referring to a star coming to us.

Now the hypothesis of more planets in our solar system are not constrained exclusively to the 9th one searched by CalTech, there are two scientists in University of Arizona that have collected data that indicates even the existence of a 10th one.

Please check
futurism.com...


The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: The angel of light

Sorry, but again: No.

Astronomer's routinely measure the brightness of stars.....it's one of the primary way of finding exoplanets. Anything occluding (moving in front of) a star causes it to dim.

Anything of significant size that get's closer no longer makes the star dim, but in fact blocks it's light....which would be noticed.

Anything closer to our sun absorbs heat from the sun and gives it off in infrared.

This has been covered over and over and over here on ATS. It's a dead horse being beaten.

There is nothing approaching the Earth. There is no mysterious planet or object affecting the Earth gravitationally that we do not already know about. There is no significant increase in earthquakes - only a much larger network and more sensitive equipment.

a reply to: The angel of light

The same can be said of any rogue planet coming on along a path that appears from our perspective near to the appsrent position of any known close star.

and as we orbit the sun and as the earth rotates something hidden behind a star will be visible in a short period of time.


with Polaris being directly north, well we can detect exoplanets around stars so a planet just hidden in front of Polaris and in our Solar neighborhood would be easily spotted.

Again, this is Not a Nibiru thread, you don't have need to mention it, we are not referring to a star coming to us.

Only 1 poster mentioned it, take it up with them not posters that haven't.

How many predictions have you made and how many have come to pass?.
Don't give up your day job.