Cancer is dead

My relative died of stage 4 cancer recently. I gave her all i learned but could'nt get her to change her diet or a water machine.

Beating cancer requires rigorous diet, pH alkaline, supplements, breathing.

Ive been looking up testimonials on youtube and wanted to bring it up because radiation and chemo drugs are dangerous.

Here is a list of foods that aid in killing cancers.
8.5-9.5pH ionized alkaline restructured water (electricly made)
Baking soda and mollasses
Alkaline veggies
Nuts
Natural honey
Black cumin seed/oil
CBD oil

Breathing excersizes

Sorry to hear of your relative, so many of us lose loved ones to this stuff.
Here is a resource Thread from IgnoranceIsntBliss, with a plethora of information.
Another Thread from Rezlooper too.

Recent CDC info claims 1 in 2 males will get cancer in their lifetime and 1 in 3 overall for both sexes....yikes!!

If I get cancer I will reference these threads and try some of the ideas before chemo or radiation. I suppose I may try chemo/rad if nothing else works though, but I do feel some of these alternatives may be worth a try.

Best wishes and peace..

ETA: I now realize I should have suggested this stuff with less fervor and more for informative purposes to follow up and research, and yes take advice from professionals first. My bad..

8.5-9.5pH ionized alkaline restructured water (electricly made)

Does nothing for you. Apparently, homeostasis isn't a thing anymore...

I guess YouTube is still a good place to get pseudoscience based snake oils.

The most important advice anyone could give to a cancer patient, is to never take advice from anyone who is not a licensed medical professional and never, ever get or believe medical advise gained online without first confirming it with real doctor who specializes in the field.

Those who give medical advice that are not licensed, should actually be charged with practicing without a license IMO. No person should ever get medical advice on YouTube or ATS.

I have no issue with a person who is terminal and has exhausted real treatment options trying out things that are for the most part scams and the product of unqualified people pretending to be qualified, but only then. Otherwise the advice is deadly if you ignore real specialists with that license on the wall and an education not gleaned from Internet myths.

My wide died 3 months ago ovarian cancer.
There is no cure for cancer .. not even rick simpson oil.

I'd love it to be true.. but its mostly a crock.
Alkaline is controlled by the kidneys.. no matter what you feed your body
Your kidneys will adjust your PH.. so thats out.

Many things kill cancer cells in the lab... things are different in the body.

The best hope i have read about is immune therapy , but thats in its infancy.

a reply to: rigel4

I'm sorry to hear about your wife.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

This is the most promising study done on cancer immunotherapy to date.

originally posted by: rigel4
My wide died 3 months ago ovarian cancer.
There is no cure for cancer .. not even rick simpson oil.

I'd love it to be true.. but its mostly a crock.
Alkaline is controlled by the kidneys.. no matter what you feed your body
Your kidneys will adjust your PH.. so thats out.

Many things kill cancer cells in the lab... things are different in the body.

The best hope i have read about is immune therapy , but thats in its infancy.

The future of cancer treatments are going to be targeted immuno therapies. Mono or polyclonal antibodies that are specific for certain types of cancer cells using cellular markers as targets. In my area, UPMC and the Hillman Cancer Center are making strides in this area.

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: rigel4

I'm sorry to hear about your wife.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

This is the most promising study done on cancer immunotherapy to date.

... Thank you

Thanks for the link ... I've read your op and will digest the thread later.
Very promising results.

a reply to: Blaine91555

I'd petition ATS to remove these posts to the LOL bin.

I don't understand why we frown on political lies, UFO hoaxes, and other stuff, but we're ok with medical hoaxes that actually hurt people.

a reply to: anotherside

People even give testimonials that raw potato juice, cures cancer.

The doctors and oncologists see hundreds of desperate people, trying hundreds of possible 'cures' (many all at once). I'd think they know a bit more than the average YouTube poster.

a reply to: projectvxn


I don't know but, I had Arthritis in my ankle, this was caused by something that was attacking the joint. My body should have recognized the agent and done something about it. But it didn't and it gets worse , then I rub on some cayenne juice from some peppers that I am growing. I do this once every day,. The first couple of days I don't feel the pain from the ankle , but I do feel a heating sometimes burning from the pepper. After about six days the burning from the peppers is so mild I don't notice it. The ankle is vastly improved almost back to normal. The conclusion is that for the burning of the pepper to have diminished, is that my body has produced an antidote to it, this antidote whatever it is, must have also stopped the burning pain from the arthritis in the ankle as well. I think sometimes the immune system cant recognize a slow insidious something in the diet that causes something like arthritis, and needs a kick start with something like a flash attack.
They use something like it on lame horses in Tibet, when the Vet finds the area, he heats up an iron and burns the area. Since he doesn't get paid unless the horse gets better, it cant be mumbo jumbo.

a reply to: projectvxn

Because without threads like these no one gets educated as to what is nonsense and what isn't.
In reading the above posts;

- "Alkaline is controlled by the kidneys.. no matter what you feed your body
Your kidneys will adjust your PH.. so thats out."

-"The future of cancer treatments are going to be targeted immuno therapies. Mono or polyclonal antibodies that are specific for certain types of cancer cells using cellular markers as targets. In my area, UPMC and the Hillman Cancer Center are making strides in this area."

And I'm sure more worthwhile info will be added!!

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: projectvxn


I don't know but, I had Arthritis in my ankle, this was caused by something that was attacking the joint. My body should have recognized the agent and done something about it. But it didn't and it gets worse , then I rub on some cayenne juice from some peppers that I am growing. I do this once every day,. The first couple of days I don't feel the pain from the ankle , but I do feel a heating sometimes burning from the pepper. After about six days the burning from the peppers is so mild I don't notice it. The ankle is vastly improved almost back to normal. The conclusion is that for the burning of the pepper to have diminished, is that my body has produced an antidote to it, this antidote whatever it is, must have also stopped the burning pain from the arthritis in the ankle as well. I think sometimes the immune system cant recognize a slow insidious something in the diet that causes something like arthritis, and needs a kick start with something like a flash attack.
They use something like it on lame horses in Tibet, when the Vet finds the area, he heats up an iron and burns the area. Since he doesn't get paid unless the horse gets better, it cant be mumbo jumbo.

Perhaps you just got better?

ORP – Oxidation Reduction Potential

In its simplest form, ORP is the measure of the availability of electrons (measured as an electrical charge) in a solution such as water. Negative ORP values in a solution have the ability to reduce the destructive nature of free oxygen (aka “free radicals”) in the body. The lower the ORP of a solution, the greater its ability to feed electrons to the electron hungry free oxygen in the body, and thereby neutralize the nasty effects of oxidation. So far so good….lets get negative!

Before you start accepting the electric water ionizer industry mantra that “more is better”, both intuition and my research indicate that moderation is the key. A steady diet of anything that doesn’t occur in nature is not a good thing and more is definitely not better. Based upon what I have read and experienced, mildly negative ORP values, in the range of -10 to -200 are the best for the human body over the long term. It seems logical to me that a good “flush” of the system in terms of a mild “detox” every six months or so makes sense. However, it also seems logical to me that drinking strong alkaline water on a sustained basis will force your body to compensate from what it naturally requires. I believe that drinking alkaline water and eating an alkaline diet are good for you and will eventually overcome years and years of bad dietary choices, but over doing it can be harmful as well.


fyiwater

What Im saying is not psuedoscience. Study the water before you go assuming its a hoax. It cleared up a nickel blight from exposure. My diabetes numbers returned to normal levels. Ive seen it clear up psoriasis.

There is no psuedo science in properly using foods to cure most any problem. The testimony outweighs your skepticisms. Im a believer..enjoy your acidic body.

a reply to: Caver78

Threads like these create a false debate. One that asks the reader to make a choice between what is characterized as the "status quo" and what is "alternative and natural", the latter having no scientific basis and are often dangerous. It's the miracle tonic garbage of the traveling snake-oil salesman.

a reply to: anonentity

Since he doesn't get paid unless the horse gets better, it cant be mumbo jumbo.

PLACEBO EFFECT:
a beneficial effect, produced by a placebo drug or treatment, that cannot be attributed to the properties of the placebo itself, and must therefore be due to the patient's belief in that treatment.

The only thing I see in the op that can help to stop cancer is the baking soda chemistry as an adjuvant to other chemistries and the CBD oils. Neither of those will kill a late stage cancer though. I studied the black cumin seed and was not convinced of that, I studied honey and although it is a good medicine for some things, I do not believe it kills cancer.

I do know some pretty noninvasive chemistries in plants to use, plants that modern chemo and immuno therapy meds are designed after. They are better used in your diet to prevent cancer, but are potent enough to help kill some cancers.

These are common foods or herbs that used to be in everyone's fridge or cupboard years ago, when cancer was way less of a problem. Spice like celery salt is made from celarian root, the anticancer part high in apigenin is in the stock and higher in the leaves. A caffeic acid in the rutabaga can kill a few types of cancer too. Meds are designed and altered to be patentable off of both of these. Any of the parsley family leaves have this kind of chemistry as in celery, and some other root veggies have a similar chemistry but not as strong as rutabagga. Oregano is in the parsley family, but it has less anticancer ability than parsley flakes do.

The spices they use commercially are not so anticancer as making the stuff with organic spices at home. Another thing, organic celery has more of this anticancer chemistry than commercial stuff because the plant does not have to make it because the pesticide/miticide protects the plant, and pesticides are not anticancer, in fact they tend to lean the other way.

The problem is we screwed up the protective food chemistry by stopping the plant from making it and we eliminated the necessary protective chemistry from the diet and added other tastier spices that do not have the same protection against cancer.

originally posted by: anotherside
ORP – Oxidation Reduction Potential

In its simplest form, ORP is the measure of the availability of electrons (measured as an electrical charge) in a solution such as water. Negative ORP values in a solution have the ability to reduce the destructive nature of free oxygen (aka “free radicals”) in the body. The lower the ORP of a solution, the greater its ability to feed electrons to the electron hungry free oxygen in the body, and thereby neutralize the nasty effects of oxidation. So far so good….lets get negative!

Before you start accepting the electric water ionizer industry mantra that “more is better”, both intuition and my research indicate that moderation is the key. A steady diet of anything that doesn’t occur in nature is not a good thing and more is definitely not better. Based upon what I have read and experienced, mildly negative ORP values, in the range of -10 to -200 are the best for the human body over the long term. It seems logical to me that a good “flush” of the system in terms of a mild “detox” every six months or so makes sense. However, it also seems logical to me that drinking strong alkaline water on a sustained basis will force your body to compensate from what it naturally requires. I believe that drinking alkaline water and eating an alkaline diet are good for you and will eventually overcome years and years of bad dietary choices, but over doing it can be harmful as well.


fyiwater

What Im saying is not psuedoscience. Study the water before you go assuming its a hoax. It cleared up a nickel blight from exposure. My diabetes numbers returned to normal levels. Ive seen it clear up psoriasis.

There is no psuedo science in properly using foods to cure most any problem. The testimony outweighs your skepticisms. Im a believer..enjoy your acidic body.

The idea that electrolyzing water will produce anything like free OH- is not correct. In solution, ions need counter ions so the net charge is zero. Electrolyzing water with Pt electrodes produces molecular oxygen, O2, and molecular hydrogen, H2.
There is another strange concept that has no basis in fact. It has to do with water holding the "shape" of a molecule. This only happens when the molecule is solvated by the water. No molecule in the solvation cage, no shape.

a reply to: projectvxn


It all boils down to if a person can be stuffed, if anyone was really serious in looking into what food the human body has evolved to work on over the last few hundred thousand years, then has a look at what passes for food these days, then the choice for health is obvious and not pseudo science. Most of your immune system is in your gut bacteria, if you use food with a long shelf life high in sugar, the mere fact it has a long shelf life must be a red flag for the fact it has stuff in it which stops bacteria and fungus from developing, and when you eat it, its going to affect your gut bacteria. I know people who know all this, and they still eat the crap and are getting bigger and bigger and taking more and more pills. So it all comes down to informed personal choice, and effort.

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