Hillary Finally Admits That Her Mouth Helped Her Lose in 2016. Will Do Better NEXT Time.

Now, though, every time I hear the politics of personal destruction leveled at him, I feel like it's leveled at me too... because he's doing pretty much what I wanted him to do. That feeling is becoming cemented in my mind as a Democratic trait, which is a pretty big hill to climb come election day.

This is an interesting observation, and yeah, I can confirm that I felt the same way...which is why, even though I kind of detest the guy, it made me absolutely GIDDY to vote for him, and stick it to the ones who made me feel that way.

The whole election night, I sat with my family, (my sell-out kids (former Bernie supporters, because, you know, their friends thought it was cool) voted for HRC, my wife leaving it blank or writing in Bernie as a joke, she can't even remember)... But the night started with EVERY news outlet saying it would be an HRC landslide, my kids just grinning at me...

I sat back in the chair, just nodded. Then, the results came in. I just sat back and nodded. My kids started looking at me as if I just shot their dog. Then, I just started laughing out loud every time a state came in for Trump. Wasn't even real to them until the news about her concession call. Then, they were PISSED when she didn't come out to speak.... It was such a great great night....

a reply to: Gazrok

I think that was the immediate reason why Trump won so bigly. People were simply tired of hearing how terrible they are. Of course, the loss to Trump didn't change things, so I'm expecting another major Republican win come November despite the polls.

I was hoping against hope the night Trump was elected. My wife and I both voted for him, as did my kids (so they say anyway). I refused to celebrate or even get excited until the final votes came from the west... then I just let out a sigh of relief.

TheRedneck

This is why the polls were wrong...

Pollster: Sir, sir....we're taking a poll, who are you voting for?

Hillary Voter: I'm with HER!
*marks down as Hillary*

Bernie Voter: Feel the Bern!
*marks down for Bernie*

Trump Voter: I got things to do, I don't have time for your nonsense....
*Undecided, it is...*

a reply to: Gazrok

Another part of that was that most Hillary or Bernie voters were all wrapped up in the excitement of the movements 24/7. Trump supporters got excited at the rallies and around each other, but out in public many tended to avoid mentioning their preference so to not be ridiculed. It is easy to be openly for a candidate when there is a movement behind you, but harder to be so when the movements against you are sometimes violent and usually vile.

That same dynamic is happening now with the conservative candidates who support Trump. Even California may be in play this time around, as the government there is starting to move too far left even for the majority of the (legal) population.

TheRedneck

When Barack Obama beat Mitt Romney in 2012, People forgot about Mitt like yesterday's newspaper.

It's been over a year, and week after week, sometimes day after day, posts about Mrs. Clinton.

I voted for her, and I never think about her. You didn't vote for her, and you can't stop thinking about her.
It hasn't yet dawned on you, that you've got a problem? There's help for obsessions, honestly it's getting creepy.

I still think that Hillary Clinton is just one of those people who has been a politician for so long she doesn't know how real, ordinary people act, and she's terrible at imitating it.

a reply to: angeldoll

I didn't forget. I still remember who Mitt Romney is and I cringe a little whenever his name shows up. Thankfully it doesn't show up often.

I would be happy to forget Hillary, but Hillary is not happy to be forgotten. Unlike Romney, she has continued to interject herself into the political arena. Keep popping your head up and people will not forget you. Shut up and sit down and people will leave you alone.

Human nature sucks, don't it?

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

I don't see her popping up. She doesn't go onto the talk shows. She still writes, but one must seek that out, and apparently she still does speaking gigs, but I couldn't afford a ticket even if I wanted one.
So I don't see her anywhere but here, usually one of two OP's.

a reply to: angeldoll

Will America finally vote a woman into the White House in 2020? Will she be a Democrat or a Republican? Does it even matter? And could Stormy Daniels be the scandal that topples Trump?

Jennifer Palmieri, former director of communications for the Hillary Clinton 2016 presidential campaign, and author of the new book Dear Madam President, joins us on this week’s Inside the Hive to talk about all these topics, what life in the Obama White House was like, how it felt to lose to Trump (“surreal”), and the fear of knowing Russia was trying to break our democracy.

“How Do I Tell Hillary?”: An Insider’s Account of the Longest Night of the Clinton Campaign - Vanity Fair

Former first lady Michelle Obama admitted that the female candidate in the 2016 presidential election, Hillary Clinton, had her flaws but was more qualified for the job than the victor, Donald Trump.

“The best qualified candidate in this last race was a woman,” Obama said Thursday at the longest-running women's leadership conference in the nation. “And she wasn’t perfect, but she was way more perfect than many of the alternatives.”

Michelle Obama Says Hillary Clinton Was ‘Way More Perfect’ for President Than Trump - Newsweek

Only a couple of weeks after former 2016 Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton offended millions of Americans by calling Trump voters “backwards,” Yale Law School has announced the creation of a fund in her honor.

According to the Yale Daily News, several former classmates of Clinton, LAW ‘73, have successfully convinced Yale Law School’s development office to create the “Hillary Rodham Clinton Fund for the Public Interest,” which will provide financial support to recent Yale graduates for year-long fellowships following graduation.

Yale Law School to create the ‘Hillary Rodham Clinton Fund for the Public Interest’ - Washington Examiner

It seems that Hillary-Clinton-as-fashion-muse isn’t necessarily soooo 2016. Witness “Flower’s” Zoey Deutch, who appeared at a Wednesday night awards ceremony in Washington hosted by the Clinton-founded women’s nonprofit Vital Voices. Deutch, wearing a floral pantsuit, accessorized her outfit with an unusual touch: a manicure that featured a white background with what looked like navy blue lettering spelling out “HRC,” Clinton’s initials, on the thumb.

The actress posed for pics with her nail-lacquer inspiration and introduced Clinton onstage at the Kennedy Center. “This is not a phase, this is not a trend. It’s a tipping point,” Deutch said, according to the Vital Voices Twitter feed of the event.

Actress Zoey Deutch proves that celebrities are still having Hillary Clinton fashion moments

Seems to me like she has plenty of help not fading into the background from people who still support her.

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Thanks for the links! Like I said, one must seek her out. I typically don't.

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: TheRedneck

I don't see her popping up.

Maybe you need glasses?

Granny Chardonney "pops up" at 1:35 - obviously because the evil posters here at ATS dragged her out of the woods and forced her to do it. Anyway, good thing the Grammy people (also secret ATS members?) had granny sitting down so she didn't fall over the place and break something again.

a reply to: angeldoll

I see her all the time. She's finding someone to blame for her loss, or bad-mouthing people who didn't vote for her, or making up some excuse why she should have won. She's still giving speeches, and writing books that keep getting rave reviews on some networks and lambasts on others.

After the election, Hillary slipped back into the woods in upstate New York and started to fade from memory. I expected her to wait two years at least before she showed back up in the public spotlight. But it was only a couple months before she was back at it, talking about the deplorables and trashing everyone around her.

You want me to stop pushing back on her? Get HER to stop pushing back on ME!

And while you're at it, can you get Michelle Obama to shut up too? She had her 8 years.

TheRedneck

I see her all the time. She's finding someone to blame for her loss, or bad-mouthing people who didn't vote for her, or making up some excuse why she should have won. She's still giving speeches, and writing books that keep getting rave reviews on some networks and lambasts on others.

It's both sad, and funny. I consistently see liberal talking heads berating women voters who voted for Trump. Do they realize that this constant assault and name-calling is only driving them FURTHER to the right, as they are alienating these women with this behavior?

Personally, I'd really love to see a good female candidate I can get behind. They are out there. I will admit HRC was probably (on paper) probably one of the most qualified candidates we've ever had for POTUS. But, for me, when her campaign got CAUGHT rigging the primary, the openness of the pay for play politics, the tarmac deals, and just being an establishment puppet, was just too much to support. Many folks in her camp still think it was due to emails, pizzagate, or Benghazi....all things that most Trump voters pretty much already relegated to "low importance" on the epic pile of other crap.

a reply to: Gazrok

I can think of two women off the top of my head that I could vote for: Sarah Palin and Condoleeza Rice. Sarah is smart and funny, but also tough when she needs to be, and Condi is even more so on both counts (except for the funny part).

I really think the far left has actually bought into their rhetoric. It was many years ago when I first heard someone in politics state that it wasn't their message that was wrong, but rather they way they presented their message. That's just gotten worse, and it is so wrong it's almost funny. Words matter, yes, but only if they are truthful... and disguising a message is not truthful.

I just heard a story on the "new" Democratic message for 2018... Pelosi was talking about how the "new" Democratic party was focused on better jobs and better wages. Right. So why did they oppose the tax cuts, the regulation cuts, and everything else that has helped jump-start our economy?

Sorry, actions matter too.

TheRedneck

Condi would be great, but Palin would never get elected. SNL saw to that, lol...

It's funny that Hillary basically called HALF the electorate names, and even coined a phrase (Deplorables) for them...and expected to win.

a reply to: Gazrok

Well, what's the difference between that and calling them "racist," "homophobe," or "sexist"? Somehow, the far left got the bright idea that they could insult themselves to victory... didn't happen, won't happen. To my mind, that is self-evident, but the fact that some people do not see the self-evidence of it indicates they are not living in reality. It is patently obvious that they see themselves as above everyone else, and that is simply not how this country runs.

They'd be better off in Myanamar politics...

TheRedneck

The difference is when it came out of her own mouth. Right after that speech, she didn't know it, but she lost the election. That act, of deliberate insult....got Trump's voter base out in droves, if for no other reason, than to just stick it to her smug face. So the OP is correct, her own mouth cost her.

a reply to: Gazrok

Yeah, I guess you have a point. It's sad, though, that it took that kind of coverage of an obvious self-incrimination to wake people up to her. And still, about half the country said "Oh, that's OK. I don't mind that she thinks that about people."

TheRedneck

That's because despite their self-professed sense of inclusion and acceptance, their very unwillingness to accept this part of themselves coupled often with "white guilt", manifests in their abhorrent hate of conservatives, so much so, that they are completely blinded by this sense of social justice, and have lost their ability to even have a discussion about it.

a reply to: SoEpic

Why? Socialism is not doing very well for the people in Venezuela.