Companies Pull Ads on Fox because David Hogg Says So

a reply to: kaylaluv

I've defended Kathy Griffin.


In a land where it is okay for punishing someone for saying something, there is no free speech.

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: burdman30ott6

The "kid" is flapping his gums and posturing like he believes himself to be a grown man.

This "kid" witnessed his peers being murdered in school. That's a pretty big deal. Soon he will be 18, and a legal adult.

He has every right to share and voice his opinion, and encourage others to do the same.

Sure he does, and when he is calling people curse words and saying blood is on their hands, and then falls back to anyone who says the slightest thing back to him is "mudslinging at children" he is being a hypocrite.

originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: seeker1963


ya, it had nothing to do with his school being shot up.. nothing at all.

I really doubt it does actually.

originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: seeker1963


ya, it had nothing to do with his school being shot up.. nothing at all.

Accidentally stared this before I realized the meaning I wonder if others did too. Too quick on the ole trigger.woops

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: burdman30ott6

The "kid" is flapping his gums and posturing like he believes himself to be a grown man. Take that stance and you lose the justification to play the "bully victim" card

I really feel like this guy and that Emma Gonzalez character truly believe they are "saviors" for American society, and at the very same time they are exploiting this situation for all it's worth (for personal gain and egoism) .

Not only that, but they have a national (international I guess) platform on which to get facetime.

They come off as very entitled and as if they are speaking from a place of moral highground, even when one of them admits they helped bully the school shooter (while trying to justify it in the same sentence)

Have you ever seen your peers murdered in a mass school shooting?

Oh ok thats the crioteria.

Well the lead singer for the Eagles oif death metal, that survived the Bataclan terror attack where he watched 89 people butchered, thinks that the parkland students pushing gun control are vile.

Eagles of Death Metal frontman Jesse Hughes, who survived the 2015 Paris attacks, has lashed out at survivors of the Parkland, Florida, school massacre.

In a series of posts on Instagram, the singer labelled students who led the March for Our Lives protest on Saturday as "vile abusers of the dead".

Hughes also accused one of the students of "treason" and mocked their gun control campaign.

It is not the first time he has created controversy since the Paris attacks.

In a series of four now-deleted posts on Sunday, Hughes said enacting gun control laws would "denigrate the memory and curse ourselves by exploiting the death of 16 of our fellow students for a few Facebook likes and some media attention".

He appeared confused about the death toll, as 17 people died in last month's attack at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School student.

"As the survivor of a mass shooting I can tell you from first-hand experience that all of you protesting and taking days off from school insult the memory of those who were killed and abuse and insult me and every other lover of liberty by your every action," Hughes wrote.

Eagles of Death Metal were on stage in Paris on the night of 13 November 2015 when terrorists stormed the venue and killed 89 people.

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well I guess since 89 people died there, his opinion matters more, and the parkland students need to apologize to him for being vile.

Not to mention how people were not just killed but tortured at the bataclan.

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A French government committee has heard testimony, suppressed by the French government at the time and not published online until this week, that the killers in the Bataclan tortured their victims on the second floor of the club.

The chief police witness in Parliament said that an investigating officer, tears streaming down his face, rushed out of the Bataclan and vomited in front of him just after seeing the disfigured bodies.

According to this testimony, Wahhabist killers apparently gouged out eyes, castrated victims, and shoved their testicles in their mouths. They may also have disemboweled some poor souls. Women were stabbed in the genitals – and the torture was, victims told police, filmed for Daesh or Islamic State propaganda. For that reason, medics did not release the bodies of torture victims to the families, investigators said.

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Oh and people took him to task for calling out the parkland victims, despite him surviving a worse ordeal.

Weird how his tragedy didnt make his opinion untouchable.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: kaylaluv

I've defended Kathy Griffin.


In a land where it is okay for punishing someone for saying something, there is no free speech.

Punished by whom?

The first amendment applies to recourse by government institutions, not private institutions.

a reply to: Liquesence

I didn't mention the 1st.

I only mention free speech.

Apparently it is okay to punish people for saying things with whom you disagree with.

originally posted by: Liquesence


Have you ever seen your peers murdered in a mass school shooting?

Neither did he, he was hiding in a closet, probably grinning from ear to ear. He quickly donned his fascist persona and found his calling, it is all now a matter of history.

originally posted by: Liquesence

Companies Pull Ads on Fox because David Hogg Says So

No, they pulled the ads because of the insensitive attack on a mass shooting survivor, because they have no recourse but to attack the person and their credibility.

What do you guys think about all this?

I think it's pretty sad and spineless for adults to pick on and call out students who are victims of a mass shooting, who are speaking out, and who want to advocate change so it doesn't happen again, or happens less.

Don't like the message, fine. Attack the message, don't attack the person.

Someone needs to call out this kind of disrespect!

'When your old-a** parent is like, :I don’t know how to send an iMessage,: and you’re just like, "Give me the f***ing phone and let me handle it," Sadly, that’s what we have to do with our government,' Hogg told The Outline on Friday. 'Our parents don’t know how to use a f***ing democracy, so we have to.'
www.dailymail.co.uk...

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: kaylaluv

I've defended Kathy Griffin.


In a land where it is okay for punishing someone for saying something, there is no free speech.

Do you think there should be a law prohibiting the freedom of advertisers to pull their ads because of a host’s offensive comments, or for any other reason?

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Liquesence


Have you ever seen your peers murdered in a mass school shooting?

Neither did he, he was hiding in a closet, probably grinning from ear to ear. He quickly donned his fascist persona and found his calling, it is all now a matter of history.

He was there.

Have you ever been in such a position?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Liquesence

I didn't mention the 1st.

I only mention free speech.

Free speech is part of the First Amendment. Second clause.

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Liquesence


Have you ever seen your peers murdered in a mass school shooting?

Neither did he, he was hiding in a closet, probably grinning from ear to ear. He quickly donned his fascist persona and found his calling, it is all now a matter of history.

He was there.

Have you ever been in such a position?

No, I never dressed up as a fascist and said fascist things in public.

originally posted by: SeaWorthy

originally posted by: Liquesence

Companies Pull Ads on Fox because David Hogg Says So

No, they pulled the ads because of the insensitive attack on a mass shooting survivor, because they have no recourse but to attack the person and their credibility.

What do you guys think about all this?

I think it's pretty sad and spineless for adults to pick on and call out students who are victims of a mass shooting, who are speaking out, and who want to advocate change so it doesn't happen again, or happens less.

Don't like the message, fine. Attack the message, don't attack the person.

Someone needs to call out this kind of disrespect!

'When your old-a** parent is like, :I don’t know how to send an iMessage,: and you’re just like, "Give me the f***ing phone and let me handle it," Sadly, that’s what we have to do with our government,' Hogg told The Outline on Friday. 'Our parents don’t know how to use a f***ing democracy, so we have to.'
www.dailymail.co.uk...

No no no no.

See you dont get it.

First, he is a victim, so he can say anything. The fact that you even point to this shows you are a scumbag!!!

Secondly, when it comes to listening to him, he is basicaly an intelligent young adult making very good points.

When it comes to responding to him, well in the words of Hogg himself, any criticism is "mudslinging at children"

In fact, if you dont admit there is blood on your hands right now, give up all of your guns, and pronounce this very mature inteligent hero as your leader, you are an evil person.

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: burdman30ott6

The "kid" is flapping his gums and posturing like he believes himself to be a grown man.

This "kid" witnessed his peers being murdered in school. That's a pretty big deal. Soon he will be 18, and a legal adult.

He has every right to share and voice his opinion, and encourage others to do the same.

Sure he does, and when he is calling people curse words and saying blood is on their hands, and then falls back to anyone who says the slightest thing back to him is "mudslinging at children" he is being a hypocrite.

You confuse calling out people's positions on a matter with simply attacking the person.

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Liquesence


Have you ever seen your peers murdered in a mass school shooting?

Neither did he, he was hiding in a closet, probably grinning from ear to ear. He quickly donned his fascist persona and found his calling, it is all now a matter of history.

He was there.

Have you ever been in such a position?

No, I never dressed up as a fascist and said fascist things in public.

You just hide behind fascist ideology and thinking?

Question was, have you ever been present when your peers were being murdered? Can you answer that, or just deflect and resort to ad homs?

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: kaylaluv

I've defended Kathy Griffin.


In a land where it is okay for punishing someone for saying something, there is no free speech.

Do you think there should be a law prohibiting the freedom of advertisers to pull their ads because of a host’s offensive comments, or for any other reason?

No.

People sadly have every right to act like censoring Nazi fascists.

They just shouldn't be upset when I or others call them out for it.

I have that right, until enough people decide I should be punished for having a different opinion.

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: burdman30ott6

The "kid" is flapping his gums and posturing like he believes himself to be a grown man.

This "kid" witnessed his peers being murdered in school. That's a pretty big deal. Soon he will be 18, and a legal adult.

He has every right to share and voice his opinion, and encourage others to do the same.

Sure he does, and when he is calling people curse words and saying blood is on their hands, and then falls back to anyone who says the slightest thing back to him is "mudslinging at children" he is being a hypocrite.

You confuse calling out people's positions on a matter with simply attacking the person.

No I dont.

He has called people f*****s, he has said the nra wants dead children, he says that people are the NRA's b******s, he has said all sort of vile crap.

But again, your position is Ingraham saying he was whining is attacking a person, but him saying the above is only attacking arguments.

This is the type of doublethink that makes having honest conversations so difficult.

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Liquesence


Have you ever seen your peers murdered in a mass school shooting?

Neither did he, he was hiding in a closet, probably grinning from ear to ear. He quickly donned his fascist persona and found his calling, it is all now a matter of history.

He was there.

Have you ever been in such a position?

No, I never dressed up as a fascist and said fascist things in public.

You just hide behind fascist ideology and thinking?

Question was, have you ever been present when your peers were being murdered? Can you answer that, or just deflect and resort to ad homs?

I'd rather hear from the kids who grew up with the victims, not some transplant who is stealing all of their voices.

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: burdman30ott6

The "kid" is flapping his gums and posturing like he believes himself to be a grown man.

This "kid" witnessed his peers being murdered in school. That's a pretty big deal. Soon he will be 18, and a legal adult.

He has every right to share and voice his opinion, and encourage others to do the same.

Sure he does, and when he is calling people curse words and saying blood is on their hands, and then falls back to anyone who says the slightest thing back to him is "mudslinging at children" he is being a hypocrite.

You confuse calling out people's positions on a matter with simply attacking the person.

“The pathetic f***ers that want to keep killing our children, they could have blood from children splattered all over their faces and they wouldn’t take action because they all still see those dollar signs,” Hogg said before describing the “exhaustion” he’s experienced as a result of his month-long stint as a political activist.

www.nationalreview.com...

Yep, he is just attacking the argument, not people.

Now Ingraham saying he was whining, that is a disgusting brutal attack!!!