Parkland shooter 'fans' sending him love letters

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Girls are sending him cards, pics, love letters. There are Facebook communities dedicated to him. All kinds of sick #.

This is nothing new of course, as the article recounts:

The attraction of women to prison bad boys echoes the fascination with killers like notorious cult leader Charles Manson. Lyle and Erik Menendez, the Beverly Hills brothers convicted in 1994 of murdering their parents, attracted a pair of brides while spending life in prison. So-called “Bundyphiles” sent bags of mail to Ted Bundy, the serial rapist-murderer who was electrocuted on Florida’s Death Row in 1989.

I partly blame the media for this, making these sickos into celebrities. Of course, some of the past cases noted above were well before the 24/7 cable news phenomenon started. So it's not totally their fault. They certainly don't help though.

If you ask me, this is more evidence that we have some kind of systemic problem as a society. This isn't normal. The people admiring this asshole, some of them it's just a juvenile phase. Some of them are inevitably sick in the head though. How many of them have thoughts of becoming copycats?

What's wrong with wimmin?

a reply to: face23785

How many of them have thoughts of becoming copycats?

Thats why the media makes celebrities of them, they want more of these killings so they can rant about getting control of all the firearms.

a reply to: face23785

Some people are fascinated by and attracted to the strangest things that you and I would consider downright crazy. That is their right and I don't see where it is really any of our business, unless they themselves break some sort of laws.

It's not a systemic issue, as that would indicate there is something within the system that is affecting the choices these people make. It's a personal issue and one that we have no place in sticking our noses.

a reply to: introvert

We shouldn't study the psychology of it?


Bah I say.

originally posted by: Lysergic
What's wrong with wimmin?

I don't think it's just women. I remember some guys being morbidly fascinated with Casey Anthony. And there are surely guys who admire these mass shooters. It's been documented some of these mass shooters had done a lot of research on previous mass shooters.

originally posted by: Lysergic
What's wrong with wimmin?

All shoes and no socks

originally posted by: face23785
If you ask me, this is more evidence that we have some kind of systemic problem as a society. This isn't normal. The people admiring this asshole, some of them it's just a juvenile phase. Some of them are inevitably sick in the head though. How many of them have thoughts of becoming copycats?

Why blame society for the weirdness of a few? The fact of the matter is that any thought no matter how detestable is probably held by some person in the world. It's just a numbers game really and its not like there any hard coded genetic blocks to think or believe certain things (that we know of at least).

originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: introvert

We shouldn't study the psychology of it?


Bah I say.

You can study it all you want. I did not say we shouldn't study it.

My point is that these people are free to choose what they like and I don't see how this is a systemic issue, nor how this can be blamed on anyone other than the person making the choice.

a reply to: introvert

It's not a systemic issue, as that would indicate there is something within the system that is affecting the choices these people make. It's a personal issue and one that we have no place in sticking our noses.

Yah, better to leave hate buried and let it fester.

a reply to: face23785

If you ask me, this is more evidence that we have some kind of systemic problem as a society. This isn't normal. The people admiring this asshole, some of them it's just a juvenile phase. Some of them are inevitably sick in the head though. How many of them have thoughts of becoming copycats?

I totally agree but....

What do you expect...look at all the people that admire a draft dodging, pussy grabbin, pornstar lovin, lyin, tweet addicted, serial wifecheeter, asshole. I totally agree there is a systemic problem in society that denies reality. it's sad, very, very sad, believe me.

Thanks for pointing this out!! It's a shame but you reap what you sow...Corinthians 6:7

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: introvert

It's not a systemic issue, as that would indicate there is something within the system that is affecting the choices these people make. It's a personal issue and one that we have no place in sticking our noses.

Yah, better to leave hate buried and let it fester.

Hate? These people are attracted to killers for a variety of reasons. That does not mean they have hate in their heart and pose a risk.

Also, what business is it of yours what other people are attracted to? Who do you think you are?

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: introvert

It's not a systemic issue, as that would indicate there is something within the system that is affecting the choices these people make. It's a personal issue and one that we have no place in sticking our noses.

Yah, better to leave hate buried and let it fester.

This is the same argument extremist SJW's make when employing political correctness against their enemies. Just saying.

a reply to: face23785

I would bet that there is a lot of empathy for him, especially due to the fact that people like Emma Gonzalez have admitted to bullying and ostracizing him, along with his turbulent family/home life.

Obviously what this person did was horrific and devastating, but at the end of the day people likely do still see him as human.


At the same time, there are a lot of sick and twisted people out there who probably even admire the shooter because of the act he carried out.

Hunt them down, put them to sleep!!

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: face23785
If you ask me, this is more evidence that we have some kind of systemic problem as a society. This isn't normal. The people admiring this asshole, some of them it's just a juvenile phase. Some of them are inevitably sick in the head though. How many of them have thoughts of becoming copycats?

Why blame society for the weirdness of a few? The fact of the matter is that any thought no matter how detestable is probably held by some person in the world. It's just a numbers game really and its not like there any hard coded genetic blocks to think or believe certain things (that we know of at least).

It's not exactly that I blame society for it. It's not like we're actively going about trying to produce people that think it's okay to commit murder, or that murderers should be admired. Nevertheless, it is happening though. I'm not suggesting it's new. And certainly there are many things that some people find strange or even wrong that others find perfectly normal and harmless. Look at sexual fetishes. There are some really weird kinks out there, to me. To others they may be perfectly normal, and indeed they're not hurting anyone. And I'm sure there are things I'm into that some people out there find strange. Of course, that's all our own private business when you're dealing with consensual acts between adults.

It becomes society's business though when it starts to affect other people. That's why we have systems in place to separate people from society who pose a danger to themselves and others. I'm big on personal freedom. But there has to be a line somewhere. We don't just let killers, rapists, etc go because there are people out there who have no problem with their behavior. Along those lines, there is a line for how mentally disturbed we are comfortable letting someone get before we force them to get treatment. I made this point in another thread, that years ago we had very low standards for what could constitute good enough reason to forcibly commit someone, and the conditions in our mental institutions were inhuman. I'm not saying we should go back to that. But in my opinion, the pendulum has swung too far back the other direction where monsters like Cruz are wandering around displaying all these warning signs and nothing is done.

That doesn't mean I think every one of these "admirers" of his should be involuntarily committed. I'm just saying that, as a whole, I think we need to take a hard look at the system we have in place because clearly it needs some changes. There are other things we can do for these people besides forcibly removing their freedom.

a reply to: face23785

was my crap joke

I know both sexes contain fruitcakes.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: introvert

It's not a systemic issue, as that would indicate there is something within the system that is affecting the choices these people make. It's a personal issue and one that we have no place in sticking our noses.

Yah, better to leave hate buried and let it fester.

This is the same argument extremist SJW's make when employing political correctness against their enemies. Just saying.

Don't we all go around pretending everything is 'fine'?

How ya doing?

Fine.

Nobody wants to hear about others problems.

If we go, hey hows it going and the person goes well, my husband drinks and beats the kids, or our son won't mind, or my wife is having an affair and I hate (insert pet peeve), we don't want to hear t.

We want others to reassure us everything is fine.

We want to ignore the problems in the world, just leave me alone in my home, let me have my toaster, color tv and radial tires.
Its okay though, if you really do get mad about the world, your anger will be redirected to blame any and everything that doesn't matter anyway. Or people will ridicule, whatever.

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: face23785

I would bet that there is a lot of empathy for him, especially due to the fact that people like Emma Gonzalez have admitted to bullying and ostracizing him, along with his turbulent family/home life.

Obviously what this person did was horrific and devastating, but at the end of the day people likely do still see him as human.

At the same time, there are a lot of sick and twisted people out there who probably even admire the shooter because of the act he carried out.

This is why I made the distinction in the OP that some of them are sick in the head. Obviously some people rushed right past that part.

a reply to: face23785

No one is letting these killers, murderers, or rapists out of jail early just because some weirdo with a weird murder fetish fell in love with them though. Charles Manson is STILL in jail and still failing each of his parole hearings no matter how many people fall in love with him.

I think it would be more trouble than its worth to do anything about these people. What I see is Darwin at work here. Falling in love with someone who has no disposition against casually taking a life is only going to end poorly for you.