US Army veteran who served two tours in Afghanistan has been deported to Mexico

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Now, this gives me pause.

I believe that if you serve in the US military, you should be treated as appropriate for a soldier.

But why wasn't he given citizenship after two tours? That to me, just stinks to high hell.

On the other hand, there are his felony drug charges. Bad. But, who knows what the situation was with his PTSD? If it was genuinely from military service, we should have treated him for it. If not, I think he should have been sent to a military prison.



No matter how you slice it, this just stinks to high hell.

nvm....

a reply to: FHomerK

He didn't go through proper immigration laws,he served in the army and got paid for it,that would be considered poor morpitude which under federal law is undesirable,many fought in WW2 and still had to go thru steps to recieve citizenship,even raising family's,problem is you have to put forth an effort,if you didn't put forth the effort must not of wanted to be a citizen

originally posted by: Oldtimer2
a reply to: FHomerK

He didn't go through proper immigration laws,he served in the army and got paid for it,that would be considered poor morpitude which under federal law is undesirable,many fought in WW2 and still had to go thru steps to recieve citizenship,even raising family's,problem is you have to put forth an effort,if you didn't put forth the effort must not of wanted to be a citizen

Any other situation of an illegal immigrant and I would be 100% with you. However, enlisting and actually going to war.... for us? That tells me something a little different.



In my humble opinion, that shows me this person did honestly want to become an American, and was willing to pay the entrance fee by protecting us.

That, in my eyes, says that this person deserved citizenship.

For starters, the US military shouldn't be allowed to fill shortfalls in recruitment with non-citizens. One of these days our entire military recruitment could be made up of foreign people that have absolutely no loyalties to the nations citizens and could easily be commanded to turn on us. They may as well be classified as mercenaries that have no legitimate constitutional rights other than to be paid mercenary wages.

a reply to: FHomerK

What Stinks ? An Illegal Alien Deported According to U.S. Laws . By the way , How can Illegals enter the U.S. Military without an SS Card ?....Hmm.....

Never deport a man left behind...Pretty messed up. But then again I served with a Canuck, he went back to Candianland when his enlistment was up buy choice.

originally posted by: Oldtimer2
a reply to: FHomerK
problem is you have to put forth an effort,if you didn't put forth the effort must not of wanted to be a citizen

I'd consider 2 tours ample effort and since he had to actually sign and say "yes, I will die for this country if needed" he should be granted automatic citizenship. Any application requirements post-combat should be taken care of by the US military.

The US government is an absolute shocker when it comes to the treatment of post-combat vets.

500 years ago, if a stranger came and fought for a village, the elders would make him/her an honorary citizen - because he/she helped keep the children safe - children being the only real asset to ensure the survivability of the species.

I served with several people that were doing so to get citizenship, but they knew for a fact they had to still take the test.

So there is more to the story than people are saying at this point, all he had to do was talk to anyone in any of the support places on base and he would have known that.

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Ya, good enough to possibly die for the country, but not good enough to keep/stay when through with you..IT STINKS.
Since the Romans..serving was the path to citizenship.

I had no idea you could enlist with the US military without a SSN.

That seems broken to me... but the law still stands.

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Ya, good enough to possibly die for the country, but not good enough to keep/stay when through with you..IT STINKS.
Since the Romans..serving was the path to citizenship.

Did he Apply Legally to become a U.S. Citizen ? If not , I do not get where you are going here .

He fought to defend American law, and then broke America law.

This is like saying a veteran went to jail.


A criminal is a criminal

a reply to: Oldtimer2

Maybe he had difficulty going through the effort because of the PTSD he got from serving this country, or at least this country's masters. This is a #ing crime. We are a nation of ingrates.

Apparently, if HE would have simply applied for citizenship after his tours...he would have been processed quickly into citizenship here. Why did he not simply take the test?

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Ya, good enough to possibly die for the country, but not good enough to keep/stay when through with you..IT STINKS.
Since the Romans..serving was the path to citizenship.

Did he Apply Legally to become a U.S. Citizen ? If not , I do not get where you are going here .

It's really simple, he served in the military defending Americans and American interests.

He deserves citizenship as he earned it with blood and sweat.

a reply to: Oldtimer2

He didn't go through proper immigration laws,he served in the army and got paid for it.

Yea... Below minimum wage. And I get it, it's a service more than a paying job...

But if you fight for my country, you're an American in my eyes props to them. I'm not fighting for another country.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Everyone I know that took that route had to take the test what makes this cat so special, the guys I served with all deployed and had to follow the path without exception.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Ya, good enough to possibly die for the country, but not good enough to keep/stay when through with you..IT STINKS.
Since the Romans..serving was the path to citizenship.

Did he Apply Legally to become a U.S. Citizen ? If not , I do not get where you are going here .[/


It's really simple, he served in the military defending Americans and American interests.

He deserves citizenship as he earned it with blood and sweat.

I see you are a Master at Value Judgments . Unfortunately , the Laws in the U.S. do not Recognize them .

edit on 25-3-2018 by Zanti Misfit because: (no reason given)

a reply to: Irishhaf

OK he screwed up by not taking the test , still he deserves better treatment, all veterans do.... To me this shows how little the government actually cares about veterans whether they are American or not.