Why would a black hole grow in size???

a reply to: intrptr

Meaning invisible. Or interdimennsional.

Actually meaning physicists dont know . Thus they call it "dark matter"
All matter exists in all 11 dimensions or doesnt exist at all.

In the latter, other dimensions have no mass, just energy.

No dimension has mass nor energy.

Black holes emit, at the polls, called Jets.

Like I said , commonly referred to as "belches.
Who is theorizing ?

a reply to: Golantrevize

The density is infinite? Source?

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Justoneman

Who was speaking Kinetic Energy ?

Physical Chem taught me you have to look at other equations involving mass (and for other variables as well if they connect mathematically KP does mass). In order to begin to understand what is happening in a black hole we have to define 'mass'.

Mass is energy.

Black holes are mass. Black holes are adding mass and therefore energy.

Mass is a potential release of energy in kinetic form, merely awaiting a trigger mechanism.

a reply to: Justoneman

Except that this kinetic energy cannot reach past the spped of light; in fact, only things with no mass can reach the speed of light.

Black holes, the theory I was taught, release no light because the pull of the magnetic affect of the atoms that have been pulverized to neutrons before slipping are so strong that photons can't escape.

I believe the Big Bang happened and I suspect it happened because black holes in ancient times swallowed one another until some still unknown force triggers the explosion.

a reply to: Justoneman

Mass is energy.

Mass is mass. Energy is the transformation of matter from one form to another.

originally posted by: swanne
a reply to: Justoneman

Except that this kinetic energy cannot reach past the spped of light; in fact, only things with no mass can reach the speed of light.

The energy equation was "kinetic potential".

It is energy waiting.

That light does not escape is a clue to the magnetic affect, for lack of better data to know exactly what other than magnetic or Van der Waals force is happening inside the event horizon.

a reply to: Justoneman

Magnetic? Hmm, you mean gravity.

Magnetism would only attract specific matter, and let light and the rest of matter move freely.

Gravity instead attracts all type of matter.

Light cannot escape not because of its mass (well, absence thereof), but because space time is bent so strongly, it cages light in.

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Justoneman

Mass is energy.

Mass is mass. Energy is the transformation of matter from one form to another.

Now we think mass is a part of the energy equation but transformation is and expression of the resting energy. That is what they teach in Physical Chemistry class and labs. I used to teach those lab classes while a grad student to help pay my way. I make my living now as an Environmental Scientist.
ETA not the course, the labs.

a reply to: Justoneman

My observations are that Physics and chemistry are often taught different concept yet given similar terms. Care must be taken to avoid confusing different concepts.

originally posted by: swanne
a reply to: Justoneman

Magnetic? Hmm, you mean gravity.

Magnetism would only attract specific matter, and let light and the rest of matter move freely.

Gravity instead attracts all type of matter.

Light cannot escape not because of its mass (well, absence thereof), but because space time is bent so strongly, it cages light in.

Yes, and think of it this way the 'magnetic field' is expected to be extended beyond the event horizon and attracts objects. And as the field grows other objects can be further away before the affect takes place than the early stages of a black hole.

a reply to: Justoneman

Any mass is potential energy . It has to have something acting upon it to create energy.
Energy doesn't happen "out of thin air" (unless you ignite it)

originally posted by: swanne
a reply to: Justoneman

My observations are that Physics and chemistry are often taught different concept yet given similar terms. Care must be taken to avoid confusing different concepts.

Those are taught side by side for a reason. Physics is looking at the mechanisms we see to understand what happened and Chemistry is researching the building blocks much like the Biologist research origins of the various Kingdoms and Phyla.

a reply to: Justoneman

Fair enough. If there is magnetic matter around, then yes, the magnetic field would most probably attract it.

You know, this conversation just reminded me that black holes were found to have an electric charge. I meant to search more about this, because I read this almost a decade ago.

a reply to: Justoneman

True.

a reply to: galadofwarthethird

Well light also does not have mass and gets sucked it anyways, its the fabric of space that gets bent so light cant escape it so even without mass it is trapped

I think black holes are much simpler than we think. They are huge spheres of compressed mass. I don't believe it is some weird dimensional phenomena, no event horizon, it is just mass creating gravity. As it pulls mass into itself it would increase in size but it also has magnetic jets streaming from its poles.

a reply to: SeekAnswers

Thats the point if my question tho, something with infinite density would not need to grow bigger in size no matter what you throw at it since its already at infinite density a black hole the size of a golfball or the size of the sun should be able to absorb the entire universe without growing in size

a reply to: Golantrevize

"Why would a black hole grow in size???"

Depends on the matter available to feed/sustain the thing.

Keeping in mind it's not a hole per say in any kind of conventional understanding of the word.

It's the event horizon that would appear to grow in size.

This short 20 min vid may help.

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: Gothmog
The more mass , the more gravity. The more gravity , the larger the event horizon becomes as the time/space fabric is warped.

For some posting on here
Not only does physics account for how a Black Hole (gravity well ) is created , they have proof of their existence.
Black Holes were even postulated to exist well before Einstein.

The theory still has some "holes" in it. Does it ever release the material, or does it keep building until everything is sucked in? Otherwise, I think a lot of us understand it the way you do. We may be looking at a portal to another side of the universe or it goes to another dimension.

Ummm...or the super massives attract and swallow one another until eventually only one remains...which having engulfed all of the matter in the universe...reaches a critical mass state that eventually leads to a big bang scenario and the creation of another universe from the ashes of the old...

Nature does love the cyclical...





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