It's Over - U.S. House Russia Probe Investigation Ends: No Evidence of Russian Collusion

a reply to: burntheships

They're trying to get the evidence:

... the Committee’s outstanding lines of inquiry, some of which have been addressed only in part and others not at all. Many of the Minority’s requests bear directly on the second and third prongs of our investigation: whether the Russian active measures campaign included links between Russia and individuals associated with political campaigns or any other U.S. persons, and what we need to do to protect ourselves and our allies from election interference in the future.

...more than 30 key witnesses that the Committee has yet to interview. This list, chosen from a broader set of individuals and entities of interest, includes witnesses to whom the Committee has already sent letters, but who so far have failed to respond to the Committee’s request for voluntary cooperation; witnesses that the Minority has previously requested and whom the Majority has not agreed to call in for testimony or to request documents from; and pertinent new witnesses that the Committee has discovered in the course of the investigation.

...more than 20 entities from which the Committee has yet to request documents, including Deutsche Bank, the Estate of Peter Smith (and associated entities), the Russian-American Chamber of Commerce in the USA, and social media companies. These requests relate directly to investigative threads essential to determining the extent of Russia’s election interference and are indispensable to a comprehensive investigation.

...more than 15 persons and entities for which the Committee believes compulsory process for appearance and/or document production to the Committee is necessary. Included are witnesses who have refused to appear; who have invoked a nonexistent privilege to avoid pertinent testimony or who have simply refused to answer questions because the answers may be adverse to the interests of the President or his campaign; who have not produced any documentation; or whose production was insufficient and for whom we have a reasonable basis to believe that they possess documents responsive to the Committee’s investigation. This list includes, among others: Donald Trump Jr., Michael Cohen, Jared Kushner, Hope Hicks, Attorney General Sessions, Erik Prince, and the White House. The Committee must also initiate a contempt process to compel Stephen Bannon to testify to the Committee fully and without constraints.

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: FlyingFox

So what are these?

www.clintonfoundation.org...

as a "not so smart" person...my spidey senses suggest to me Mueller's true role are not being disclosed in a clear and public manner. this would suggest Mueller is compliant in a "secondary function" [or primary depending on perspective].
from what i have read it wouldn't be unreasonable to think team Trump has dirt on Mueller from his previous engagements in govt positions, which would encourage Mueller to reconsider his function. Mueller has serious investigative authority that is not limited to the "Russian Collusion" narrative.

Basically the purpose of this whole thing on the surface is to get rid of Trump ASAP. he is almost halfway done with his first term. if there was any truth to removing/impeaching him, that info would not be sat on for even a second.

my hunch tells me those who thing Trump will be somehow removed from office/impeached have a another 6.5years of chasing the dragon. [i dont care about political leanings, at the end of the day i want things to work out for everyone in a manner where freedoms and rights remain protected,which i actually see both under attack, and trump is not causing it, fighting it if anything].

[the real fight is against 5g, chemtrails, and GMOs].

Maybe, just maybe, Trump was able to get elected because that is what the US public wanted.

I honestly feel like if Obama was doing the things Trump is doing (Tax deal, Steel tariffs) people would be sceptical but also willing to accept it in the long run.

a reply to: AboveDogSecret

Maybe, just maybe, Trump was able to get elected because that is what the US public wanted.

If that were true wouldn't Trump have won the popular vote?

originally posted by: links234
a reply to: AboveDogSecret

Maybe, just maybe, Trump was able to get elected because that is what the US public wanted.

If that were true wouldn't Trump have won the popular vote?

Now you've done it. Here comes the hissy fits about electoral votes. lol

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
Is it all really over?

I've been saying to my liberal friends this whole time that the collusion hysteria would fall apart one day.

a reply to: burntheships

the only collusion hysteria has ALL come from the right.....democrats have never said there was collusion....republicans made it up, because Trump chanted it a thousand times (no collusion), promoted it as if that was the democrats argument all along, then proceeded to argue against it...just like here on ATS

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: UKTruth


Sorry, for the House Intel Committee at least, it's over. No collusion.

It's the appetiser for the lovely meal Trump supporters are going to enjoy at anti-trumpers expense.

We move on and look forward to the next courses - the Senate Committee and the Mueller investigation.

House Intel Committee, Senate Intel Committee, Special Counsel.

You listed them in order of how far they have their head up Trump's butt.

Nunes will wear the stink until his grave.

The Senate Committee is flirting with objectivity.

And Mueller doesn't give a crap one way or another, he will knock over criminals and even Presidents wherever he finds them.

You can celebrate the conclusion of one half of a committee that has become a complete laughing stock under Nunes, but most rational observers will wait for Bobby 3 sticks to conclude.

There is no 'half' of the committee.

When part of one half the committee (GOP minus a couple sane GOP) compose a conclusion in secret without consulting the other half of the committee, the conclusion is profoundly, indisputably so political and partisan as to be worthless.

The statement the GOP issued is embarrassing to the country and themselves.

Again, there is only one committee. Complete agreement amongst it's members is rare.

A bipartisan committee by design and intent, issuing a partisan conclusion by design and intent is worthless.

You need to be a special kind of idiot to assign credibility to the conclusion.

But, as with the U.S. Supreme Court, majority vote rules.

Why do these debates with Trump worshippers always devolve into explaining basic civics that grade-schoolers are aware of?

A congressional committee is not the a court and does not issue rulings.

Their is not "voting" for a conclusion.

The democrats were never told a conclusion was being composed for public consumption, so they would not have been privy to any "vote" to begin with if the committee was a court.

And a "Majority" of the committee did not sign off on it. There are republicans on the committee that do not agree with everything in the conclusion.

So no, they are not a court. No, there was not a vote and no, it was not a majority decision.

It was the end of Nunes year-long campaign to destroy the credibility of the GOP in congress.

originally posted by: kurthall
a reply to: burntheships

Yeah, I will wait for Muller....also the report says "the Trump tower meeting never should have happened" also that Trump Camp made "poor choices"


Muller is trained to get to the bottom of things....these people are not.

Mueller is trained to be a puppet of the deep state. He head over the investigation of 9/11, you do realize this right?

originally posted by: links234
a reply to: AboveDogSecret

Maybe, just maybe, Trump was able to get elected because that is what the US public wanted.

If that were true wouldn't Trump have won the popular vote?

Until Trump won you said the EC was great if i remember and called republicans whiners when ROmney lost.

You cant go claiming something is great and then when you dont get th eresult you want saying its bad when nothing changed.

I think this whole show is funny. I don't tow either party line.

The fact that the Democrats are so die hard about something that was told to them over the television by a bunch of untrustworthy people has me marking them as a bunch of idiots.

WHERE IS THE PROOF AND WHERE HAS IT EVER BEEN? OH SOMEBODY TOLD YOU SOMETHING ON TV. PLUS YOU HATE TRUMP SO IT MUST BE TRUE.

hahahahahahah

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

You haven't seen it because just like the GOP members of this committee...you don't want to.
Simple as that.

False, I've been following this the whole time. I have yet to see your group provide solid evidence of any kind. Remember, the burden of proof is on the accusers and those making extraordinary claims. If that evidence comes about, great. But it's not my job to just believe your widespread conspiracy theory about Russia.

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
Is it all really over?

I've been saying to my liberal friends this whole time that the collusion hysteria would fall apart one day.

a reply to: burntheships

the only collusion hysteria has ALL come from the right.....democrats have never said there was collusion....republicans made it up, because Trump chanted it a thousand times (no collusion), promoted it as if that was the democrats argument all along, then proceeded to argue against it...just like here on ATS

Sounds like bull to me. I'm a liberal. I work in an all liberal office, 80% of who worked on democrat campaigns. Some FROM the Clinton campaign. They talk about collusion all the time.

And it's clear you aren't being objective. The Russian accusations have been constantly brought up not just on liberal media outlets but purveyed across virtually every social media platform, by "the resistance."

You are either delusional or dishonest.

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
Is it all really over?

I've been saying to my liberal friends this whole time that the collusion hysteria would fall apart one day.

a reply to: burntheships

the only collusion hysteria has ALL come from the right.....democrats have never said there was collusion....

If someone never owned a radio, a T.V., a computer with internet, or bothered to read a newspaper ; You might actually fool them.

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: UKTruth


Sorry, for the House Intel Committee at least, it's over. No collusion.

It's the appetiser for the lovely meal Trump supporters are going to enjoy at anti-trumpers expense.

We move on and look forward to the next courses - the Senate Committee and the Mueller investigation.

House Intel Committee, Senate Intel Committee, Special Counsel.

You listed them in order of how far they have their head up Trump's butt.

Nunes will wear the stink until his grave.

The Senate Committee is flirting with objectivity.

And Mueller doesn't give a crap one way or another, he will knock over criminals and even Presidents wherever he finds them.

You can celebrate the conclusion of one half of a committee that has become a complete laughing stock under Nunes, but most rational observers will wait for Bobby 3 sticks to conclude.

There is no 'half' of the committee.

When part of one half the committee (GOP minus a couple sane GOP) compose a conclusion in secret without consulting the other half of the committee, the conclusion is profoundly, indisputably so political and partisan as to be worthless.

The statement the GOP issued is embarrassing to the country and themselves.

Again, there is only one committee. Complete agreement amongst it's members is rare.

A bipartisan committee by design and intent, issuing a partisan conclusion by design and intent is worthless.

You need to be a special kind of idiot to assign credibility to the conclusion.

So you don't like the outcome. But, at the same time, are you really looking for the Truth and facts or do you magically *know* everything about Russia, Trump, and campaign collusion or hacking? Sounds like there's only one answer you'd accept.

a reply to: kurthall

Mueller isn't going to uncover what the FBI (which already investigated Trump once), the House PSCI, the Senate Intel Cmtte or any of the rabid anti-Trumpers that have been after this BS story for a year and a half couldn't find.

There is simply nothing there.

Taking meetings, acquiring dirt on your enemies or playing nice with the Russians is not a crime.

Nothing to see here folks.

And FYI Kurt, Mueller already ruled out charging Trump with conspiracy. Remember when he said POTUS/Camp did not willingly participate in a conspiracy? Willful participation is a required element of ANY conspiracy charge. You should read the federal jury instructions and actual USC language. It is very clear

Nice effort though, running with this BS story.

I'm in the same boat. Independent liberal here.

originally posted by: FlyingFox
Funny to hear people still whine about Trump not releasing tax returns, when Clinton Foundation never filed returns nor were even properly formed charities.

Well not to put it mildly but most Americans are idiots who are too stupid to realize that the Federal Reserve Banking System and the Guy running Wall-Street is the guy with something to hide, just because a load of republicans proclaim there innocent doesn't mean the rest of the world sits there and believes the lies that come out of a known lairs mouth and I mean both him and Putin.

Let the pathetic idiot enjoy what remains of his Presidency, the people will unite against him and his kids and only in the end when he's got a bullet between his eyeballs will this pathetic idiot of a president realize what conspiring tax avoidance, complacency and greed brings. Generally going from the history books it brings Violent overthrow and your untimely death at the hands of the impoverished people you stepped on to get where you are.

In other news, my local police department finished investigating itself over a shooting and found that it did not do anything wrong. I'm just brimming with excitement that such integrity is evident at all levels, from D.C. on down!

Oligarchy is Oligarchy, regardless of you being a Russian or you being an American - You deserve to die!



Don't worry about the nukes, worry about the 99.9% homeless rate of Assassin's that are by now repeating the mantra.

"Kill these Bastards, every single fu**ing one of the them!"

Marxism meets Confucianism - "in order to maintain balance, you must prune the Bonsai tree"