Manchester UK, ''The Pusher.''

a reply to: kerrichin

Heard of the pusher and he may be doing the same near me in Huddersfield.
Had a spat of them last year here.

She's back!

a reply to: kerrichin

There could be a 'pusher' or there could be more than one. For example, there are people out there from NY to London who try to push people off train platforms. It's also a sad reality in the UK that some people can't handle alcohol and end up randomly punching people for a laugh.

Most of the Manchester deaths happen in the busy area between Picadilly and Deansgate Locks. These are the main nightlife areas and where the taxi ranks, Metro-link and train stations are located which means the heaviest concentration of people being out and about. Drunks finding their way to stations to get home and sober people too. Conflicts occur and random violence. A fall on the pavement can be slept off whereas a dip in the canal is kinda problematic. There are seasoned drinkers as well as young students who don't know the limits. Some people can find a suicide switch when they're drunk - ask A&E.

It's nice to know there are people amongst us who enjoy pushing people to their deaths, huh? Or that a blazed drunk can cross the road to punch a passer-by in the face for 'staring.' There could be one solo 'pusher' but I reckon it's more likely to be a cluster of circumstances creating these tragedies. After all, most of these deaths are men who always planned to go home and had loved ones waiting for them. Genuinely tragic.

a reply to: kerrichin

Could have fallen and lost the phone.

Maybe he is on the edge just looking down as he rambles along , killing time. The spins around or looks left or righ. Loses his balance and screams as he falls.

Maybe mom just didn’t hear the splash.

I'd take a guess at London gangs spreading out and clearing dealers from hotspots.

Probably touted by leaders as a safer way to dispose of opposition that make money by the waterside.

a reply to: SlowNail

Erm nope.
It will be a loony.

a reply to: testingtesting

Best be prepared when in areas with canals in the uk

When out drinking make sure you are wearing your floatation vest, arm bands, goggles and flippers

I lived on the canal for 4 years.

It's strange how little the police care for those on the waterways. You will never get assistance, you never see a patrol (which can be nice to be fair) and you hear about cases like this being laughed off all the time.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

appologies for breif answer - but you are " over simplifying it "


yes - all major cities have a tally of " misadventure deaths "

but manchester - bodies in canals IS an anomoly

its confined to a certain area - not the entire metropolis

further - the cities of liverpool and birmingham , glasgow - also have lots of canals // water ways - and a far lower "bodies in canals // 100 thousand citizens " count than manchester

does that make sense ?

Ban the canals!! they are killing folks!

Oh wait, wrong argument, sorry.

originally posted by: network dude
Ban the canals!! they are killing folks!

Oh wait, wrong argument, sorry.

Yes, of course, this has something to with guns....

Canals are notoriously difficult to climb out of, especially when pished. Vertical slimy walls and unless you know where the exits are then no doubt you would quickly tire treading water. Not saying there's not some foul play.

Throw someone in a river and there's a good chance they find an exit or at least something to hold onto. Canals are a different animal.

a reply to: Soloprotocol

True, normally theres around a foot between the waterline and dry land and while around here theres a good few points to pull yourself out if you know where you are and can swim to start with and not too ratted.

The problem is that in a built up area both sides will be the same as more out of town the non towpath side might be scrub ground also not sure of the bridges in Manchester but if they're arched that can mean sometimes having to walk a bit closer to the waterline.

Used to go berry picking along the T&M and some of dead rats you'd see in the water were the size of cats.

a reply to: kerrichin

One hundred people go for the eternal swim, and there is no public outcry, or specific police operation in place to find out why? Something stinks to high heaven, and its not water rotted garbage, or sump sludge. Someone needs to find out who is dropping people in the canal, and they need to do it yesterday.

I don't know about the Manchester canal but I've fell in a few and let me tell you unless there is a specific reason (ie. panic, people of small stature etc.) it's virtually impossible to drown in a canal, except the locks. Nearly all canal dimensions are, the boat run, in the middle, average 5 feet deep, rising at the banks to around 3 feet deep.
Any reasonable adult just needs to stand up, so these cases are very unusual. What do the autopsies show? Surely if they were all drunk this would show up and the police would have an explanation?
Who knows? Date rape drug, knocked out, rolled into water. I would think if there are no external injuries and they're all young adults, I would suggest that they were comatose when they were put into the canal. If they were out of it they could not fight for survival and they would be easier to drown.

www.housepricecrash.co.uk.../topic/196353-is-there-a-serial-killer-in-york/
dringhousesandwoodthorpeward.mycouncillor.org.uk...
www.independent.co.uk...
Just three of the many links to deaths in canals and rivers that have some cases of suspicious circumstances I personally suspect a serial killer or two are active

On a few of those deaths, they found a scratch or bruise to the head. So someone gets punched, mugged and left with a concussion, confused, wanders around, then exhausted falls into the water.

It's strange the authorities can't find anything. Just by checking mobile phone records on a map, they should be able to see whether any other people were nearby. Using Google maps on a smartphone, it will find my location to with 50 meters.

Get volunteers to pretend to be homeless people, camp in doorways or on the grassy bits and keep an eye on whats going on.

Just checked and we either have a copy cat or it is the same person.
He is known as The Yorkshire dipper.

www.mirror.co.uk...

www.dailystar.co.uk...

May be related.

www.examiner.co.uk...

Ehhh, this sounds like a rerun of the "Smiley Face Killer(s)" theory. There's undoubtedly a few that may be related to foul play, but I don't think there's a serial killer at work. The same phenomenon seems to affect a very similar demographic anywhere from Manchester to Chicago, trying to tie that to an organized killer or group of killers is a stretch.

originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: kerrichin

Heard of the pusher and he may be doing the same near me in Huddersfield.
Had a spat of them last year here.

really i lived in huddersfield for 4 years, the canal even goes though the university doesnt it. its not like its hard for the pusher to get from huddersfield to manchester and back