new rule? why have a person give up two thirds of their script?

so my wife just went to pick up my prescription.
hydrocodone. 10/325 x 60

same as the past few years. same doc. same everything

so they tell my wife they need me to get a prior authorization from my doctor or they can give us a COURTESY 7 day supply but then i would surrender the other 21 days.

what is the point of that?

prior authorizations are a drag. sometimes it takes the doc a couple days. just feels like another way they can # with you. whatever. i will play ball and get it for them.

super awesome the 7 day courtesy while you try to get your prior authorization figured out.

what is with the 21 days remainder being surrendered?

makes no sense. i can not think of a good reason

why is going to surrender the remainder of their meds and how can they even ask people to do this?

i may be stretching but when does the ethics and such come into play. or just staying within your job?
if a doctor gives a person x amount of days worth of meds than how can a pharmacist even make a suggestion that they give so much of it up??

thanks all

a reply to: TinySickTears

With as much strangeness going on in the world of "modern" medicine, it's a miracle that we still have working hearts and minds.
The only thing that I have learned to count on with the medical system is that there is nothing to be counted on.

a reply to: TinySickTears
I don't read that as "surrendering" the 21day supply. Presumably you will get them when you have the right signature, so the supply is only being postponed.
It looks like a tightening up of the rules. In our system, we have to get doctor's signature on each and every fresh prescription form, including repeat prescriptions, and they seem to be enforcing something similar.

originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: TinySickTears
I don't read that as "surrendering" the 21day supply. Presumably you will get them when you have the right signature, so the supply is only being postponed.
It looks like a tightening up of the rules. In our system, we have to get doctor's signature on each and every fresh prescription form, including repeat prescriptions, and they seem to be enforcing something similar.

you could be right. i wasnt there but that is not what they told her.

told her they could give her 7 days but would have to surrender the rest of the script

Well, seems to me that they have twenty one pills they can sell and make an extra few bucks. They would be accounted for. They have the evidence to say that the whole prescription was done if they do it right.

I have to start a conspiracy with this one, it is ripe for the picking.

a reply to: TinySickTears

You are taking some pretty hardcore drugs and have probably been caught up in the attempt by Government to solve the opiod epidemic. I am sure if you were taking less addictive medication they wouldn't have had the same policy.

a reply to: DISRAELI

years ago you could get 3 days worth if there was an insurance mishap or something like that but this 7 day things is new

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: TinySickTears

You are taking some pretty hardcore drugs and have probably been caught up in the attempt by Government to solve the opiod epidemic. I am sure if you were taking less addictive medication they wouldn't have had the same policy.

yeah i doubt it
60 of those a month is not hardcore

matter of fact is gonna be on the low side of how that medicine is prescribed

a reply to: TinySickTears


Kasich created more red tape for people who need pain meds. So it looks like you need to get your doctor on board?

New Ohio rules limit some opioid prescriptions to 7-day supplies

a reply to: TinySickTears

well they are starting to crack down on these legal drug dealers. its just gonna keep getting harder and harder to get your heroine. i have an addictive personality i been told, so glad i cant take pain pills. im sure i would have ended up addicted like all the others i know on them.

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: DISRAELI

years ago you could get 3 days worth if there was an insurance mishap or something like that but this 7 day things is new

Been dealing with that sort of thing since 2000. Not new. In most cases , they call it an "emergency supply" . The pharmacy I have been going through just contacts the doctor's office for me.

The limits apply to acute pain patients, with exceptions for cancer, hospice or medication-assisted addiction patients. Prescribers can override the limits if they provide a specific reason in the patient's medical record.

from your link seeker.

thats a good thing though. dont need a months worth of percocet cause you had a tooth pulled

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: TinySickTears

You are taking some pretty hardcore drugs and have probably been caught up in the attempt by Government to solve the opiod epidemic. I am sure if you were taking less addictive medication they wouldn't have had the same policy.

10mg hydrocodone is not hardcore... I will assume op is not a "drug seeker" and is in real, honest pain.

10mg hydro for moderately severe pain is like a couple Tylenol for a migraine; it helps but you're still hurting.

Hydrocodone is bottom barrel for prescription pain meds.

You need a Pain Management Doctor to get more than a week.

It requires a contract.

They test you regularly and their tests are good.

Ask for a referral to Pain Management.

originally posted by: whyamIhere
You need a Pain Management Doctor to get more than a week.

It requires a contract.

They test you regularly and their tests are good.

Ask for a referral to Pain Management.

in pain management. with the same doc for a long time
my scripts are for a 60 count.
this 7 day surrender thing is brand new

i had to sign a contract saying i would be tested but i have never been tested or called in for a count thus far.

this is a pharmacy/insurance thing

a reply to: TinySickTears

Prior auths generally take more than 3 days, and a pharmacy is not legally allowed to fill a final partial fill if it takes longer than 3 days to complete after the initial partial fill. This law is specifically for C II drugs. The pharmacy's hands are tied. Blame the insurance company for the prior authorization and the feds for the ridiculous law, not the pharmacy.

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: TinySickTears

Prior auths generally take more than 3 days, and a pharmacy is not legally allowed to fill a final partial fill if it takes longer than 3 days to complete after the initial partial fill. This law is specifically for C II drugs. The pharmacy's hands are tied. Blame the insurance company for the prior authorization and the feds for the ridiculous law, not the pharmacy.

then why can i get 7 and surrender the rest?

im not trying to blame anyone. just curious as to whats going on

a reply to: TinySickTears

They can legally give you (or sell you) the 7 if they choose, but they can't fill the rest if it takes longer than 3 days. It makes no sense...that government.

Man, I feel for you. My parents are going through the same thing. They are old and can't go out a zillion times trying to get medications, and we aren't talking about opioids with them either, so not sure what is going on. They used to be able to get a 90 day supply, then it was 60, and now it is a 20 day supply.

They tried to pull that suspend/surrender crap with them too and my mom had to raise cane with the Doctors to work with the pharmacy because my dad's illness requires no interruptions in medication. It is just crazy.

In Maine, they are only allowed to give you one week of opiates at a time.