I can't remember why I voted for Trump...

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: olaru12
Well at least Trump is protecting our guns....oh, wait

www.axios.com...

Yea, not even huh?

At one point, Mr. Trump suggested that law enforcement authorities should have the power to seize guns from mentally ill or other dangerous people without first going to court. “I like taking the guns early,” he said, adding, “take the guns first, go through due process second.”

That, up there is seriously disturbing.

Surely that statement has a few republicans freaking out.... In fact it should have all Americans freaking out.

a reply to: Phage

So bi-partisan means all conditions? (this is a separate topic btw)

The fact that it was an EO and Trump punted it to Congress was actually a good move.

Not like his statements today.

I remember why I voted for him. My hatred of Hillary outweighed my dislike of Trump.

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: olaru12
Well at least Trump is protecting our guns....oh, wait

www.axios.com...

Yea, not even huh?

At one point, Mr. Trump suggested that law enforcement authorities should have the power to seize guns from mentally ill or other dangerous people without first going to court. “I like taking the guns early,” he said, adding, “take the guns first, go through due process second.”

That, up there is seriously disturbing.

But...
But.....
But.......

Gunz r bad!

He's only thinking of the children!

DO YOU WANT CHILDREN TO DIE?

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: alphabetaone

That statement is troubling, to say the least.

Leaving firearms out of the equation, just the thought that anyone at all would put legal consequence ahead of due process is troubling.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Phage

Yes, actually.


However, and you know this, I've been wrong before.

Having watched him through the health care thing and through the immigration thing, I'll wait until legislation is proposed before I see what gives. He's good at pitching out suggestions he knows the other side won't accept so that he can say that he was willing to be reasonable. It's when they finally man up and bite that we have to start worrying.

a reply to: UnBreakable

Yep. That's more or less it in a nutshell. After 8 years of what I knew Hillary was going to continue, I figured it was time to try something else.

a reply to: soundguy


Clearly yoou did not read the post. All I can respond with to this is content is almost as important as context.

Fear.
Bias.

>.>

I'm not here to make policy, there are plenty of other threads to voice your party-line du jour commentary, my OP has nothing to do with solving problems OR affiliations, it's merely a re-examination of why I did what I did, and a reconciliation of tactics employed by everyone unwilling to view with a broader lens than simply republican or democrat.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: alphabetaone

That statement is troubling, to say the least.

This is Trump, he speaks first then looks back and realizes his mistake. Don't count on him saying that again. His actions will speak for themselves, and *then* it may be time to worry.

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: alphabetaone

That statement is troubling, to say the least.

This is Trump, he speaks first then looks back and realizes his mistake. Don't count on him saying that again. His actions will speak for themselves, and *then* it may be time to worry.

The problem here does not lie in IF this is an off-the-cuff remark which will wither...the problem with it is that, it may NOT wither...then, just imagine for a minute that you're wrong about that and it grows legs...what happens? The entire due process system breaks down?

a reply to: Teikiatsu

It shows a dangerous thought process. One that I surely don't believe in.

It's very akin to what the deep left has been doing over the past year and a half.

a reply to: alphabetaone

So its your fault. See the mess you created.

a reply to: alphabetaone

So its your fault. See the mess you created.

a reply to: ketsuko

See my response to your hubs!

If were going to speak loudly when it's done by the opposition, it's only hypocritical to not do the same when it's on our 'side.'

Also, there is a little more to the context than those two quotes and it is part of a longer quote. For what it's worth.

ETA:

“I like taking the guns early. Like, in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida. He had a lot of firearms, they saw everything. To go to court would have taken a long time. You could do exactly what you’re saying but take the guns first, go through due process second.”

www.washingtonexaminer.com...

a reply to: alphabetaone

The entire due process system breaks down?

Because Trump?
No. You know those nasty judges he dislikes so much?

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: alphabetaone

That statement is troubling, to say the least.

Leaving firearms out of the equation, just the thought that anyone at all would put legal consequence ahead of due process is troubling.

Court of public opinion?

Sure, it's not bound by any legal statutes but its effects of the health and well being of individuals is measurable. I'm not disagreeing but I'm not claiming it's a new phenomena either.

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: alphabetaone

That statement is troubling, to say the least.

This is Trump, he speaks first then looks back and realizes his mistake. Don't count on him saying that again. His actions will speak for themselves, and *then* it may be time to worry.

The problem here does not lie in IF this is an off-the-cuff remark which will wither...the problem with it is that, it may NOT wither...then, just imagine for a minute that you're wrong about that and it grows legs...what happens? The entire due process system breaks down?

That's exactly what the Fascist want. That's Trump broad appeal; He's above the law. That kind of power is appealing to a certain type of personality that lives vicariously thru authority figures. Cultist.

a reply to: olaru12

Oh FFS, lets just ignore the past year and a half of fascist tactics used against Trump....right?


Here we have a nice piece of common ground and someone has to come along and drive it right into the ditch.

No wonder this snip gets nowhere.

a reply to: JinMI

Yes.
Let us bask in the glow of our president uniting us, however briefly, in shock over his statements.

a reply to: Phage

Bask away. Hell, even gloat abit Phage.