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originally posted by: TinySickTears
Thinking about this since yesterday. I was at the BMv and I ran into my brother. He is 25. Has a ccw and is in police academy right now. We got to talking about how crazy # is and he said that's why I'm carrying right now.
So you're not supposed to carry in bmv cause it is a gun free zone. So I started thinking about how many law abiding ccw holders carry in places you're not supposed to.
I have no facts to back this up and it's just thinking out loud but I have to think a pretty good percentage of ccw holders prob carry in these zones.
I base that only on how people behave.
Clearly there is at least 1. My brother.
Obviously there are others.
I bring this up cause we always here that only the bad guys will have guns in these areas. After yesterday and just thinking on it I think this is not true.
So to all ccw holders here. Do you follow the rules to the letter and leave your weapon behind before going into these places?
100 percent of the time?
I am not interested in turning this into a debate on should people be able to carry in these places vs if they actually do.
Not an argument I'm interested in having.
I'm just curious as to how many obey the signs.
Point being is it fair to say only bad guys will have guns in these zones?
Is it fair to say some ccw still carry in these places? I don't really have experience with it. Just something I was thinking about
originally posted by: cynicalheathen
There is a difference in something being wrong in and of itself ( murder, rape, robbery ) and wrong because some bureaucrat says so. ( jaywalking, minor ordinances and violations ).
Lawful versus legal.
Ultimately, natural law dictates that I am responsible for my safety. .
Only the bad guys have guns in gun free zones?
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: TinySickTears
Only the bad guys have guns in gun free zones?
Thats why they go there.
You notice they don't attack police stations.
originally posted by: Edumakated
You don't go running off at the mouth, threatening people, and acting as an all around asshat when you are not sure if others are armed. At least I know I don't. This is why I don't road rage or do anything confrontational as I simply don't know who is armed and it isn't worth finding out.
originally posted by: TinySickTears
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: TinySickTears
Only the bad guys have guns in gun free zones?
Thats why they go there.
You notice they don't attack police stations.
thats bull# and you know it
clearly the 'good guys' carry in those places too.
have you read the thread?
originally posted by: cynicalheathen
I've never made that argument. I've always just said that "No Gun Zones" signs do absolutely nothing to prevent someone with bad intentions from carrying a gun past them.
originally posted by: intrptr
What "Bad guys " are you talking about? If you meant mass murderers, then yes, they go to 'gun free zones' to kill because they know theres no firearms there to stop them.
They plan ahead you know. If there had been any CCW permit holders there we would have heard about it. Probably because they shot back, like that guy at that church in Texas.
originally posted by: verschickter
Be clear, this thread is about pulling CCW holders noses and trying to get some to admit so you can later use it in discussion to say something like this:
"Here is a thread I did, gun owners / ccw holders don´t respect the law as much as criminals".
That´s what this thread is about, I just didn´t get it at first but it´s clear.
originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: verschickter
Yep, because the OP knows a sense of bravado on the internet will get many people to say just what they did and support the argument he wants to support.
I notice that he only responded to people who claim to "break the law" rather than the person who soberly states he follows the law.
there was someone with a ccw carrying and didnt do # when it came time to react.
is this not possible as well?
are you a ccw holder that carries in these areas even though youre not supposed to? piss you off that im asking?
i have not been negative towards anyone in this thread
im not allowed to ask questions?
piss you off that im asking?
originally posted by: TinySickTears
i am learning that even if you are respectful and ask honest legit questions people still get pissy when it comes to certain issues.