Mark 7 KJV

originally posted by: howtonhawky
The key to understanding that you are what you eat and when you eat from a life source that source effects you and defiles you.

Only eat foods from without and not foods from within

So what do you all make of this and what do you think foods from without are?

I say honey is safe!

I do not see any references to eating life source food.

I understand what's is entered a man from outside cannot defile a man. It could mean external factors such other people's action do not defile you, but what's come out from your own action that could corrupt you. Jealousy, Greedy, Selfish etc are all internal factors from "within a man" that could turn a man's heart.

Jesus eat fish did he not? Did eating fish defile Jesus, John and all the fishermen disciples? Surely Not.

a reply to: EasternShadow

where does it say that Jesus ate fish?

what you eat that is with goes in your mouth to the stomach then to the heart and back out your mouth.

originally posted by: howtonhawky
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So what do you all make of this and what do you think foods from without are?

I say honey is safe!

You are missing the whole point and are doing exactly what Yahoshua said..defiling yourself from within (your mind) by your corrupt thoughts and then disseminating them as Truth when they are anything but because it is religious bigotry(making void the word of God).I am positive you will not understand this and will continue to believe you are correct and will again prove the very concept that Yahoshua was addressing.

originally posted by: howtonhawky
a reply to: EasternShadow

what you eat that is with goes in your mouth to the stomach then to the heart and back out your mouth.

Mark did not said that. What Mark said was,

"19 Because it entereth NOT into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?"

Pay attention to word NOT there. Whatever you eat goes to stomach and out as waste.

I'm very certain Jesus ate fish.

Luke 24:41-43 King James Version (KJV)

41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

a reply to: EasternShadow

Ever notice how the Av uses such benign language so as not to show God to be as crude as men?

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: EasternShadow

Ever notice how the Av uses such benign language so as not to show God to be as crude as men?

If crude men could understand, that shouldn't be a problem. Else, it would only lead to confusion.

a reply to: EasternShadow

ok so he ate fish. it was a question. I was not asserting that he did or did not. I just remember that very few if any times he was eating.

You have it very wrong on the rest of it. You have to focus very much and not get hung up on one single part of the verses.

reread thread and it will be clear

originally posted by: howtonhawky
a reply to: EasternShadow

ok so he ate fish. it was a question. I was not asserting that he did or did not. I just remember that very few if any times he was eating.

You have it very wrong on the rest of it. You have to focus very much and not get hung up on one single part of the verses.

reread thread and it will be clear

If Jesus himself ate life source food ( fish ) and remain clean, how is it I could be wrong to apply the same logic to everyone else who eats life source food?

a reply to: EasternShadow

excellent questions you bring

he knew how to cleanse himself on the inside and it is spoken of in the op here. (food without)

i think maybe that is what all the water and fasting was about

look at zero water reverse osmosis water

if that is all you drink it will begin to remove things from the body and can be unhealthy. zero water has 0ppm of anything other than water. this is why most companies add select ingredients to their bottled water.

a reply to: EasternShadow

you know what I mean. Stop being ridiculous.

The AV Ezk says crush the teat, the NLB says massage the breast (crude soft porn). The worst word God ever says int he whole AV is Sodomy, and calls a female a dog, which would mean in crude language a beotch. You see he is much kinder and less crude than the bibles of men written for a bottom line profit.

Even the most highly educated men are crude just ask Hawkin's?

perhaps the difference of with and without could be mammals and nonmammals

a reply to: howtonhawky

Hmm. What makes you arrive to such a conclusion?

a reply to: swanne

just spitballing but all the talk of not eating ourselves and our tight relationship gene wise with other mammals

simply put we are in the group on some level and it was told not to eat ourselves according to the book

a reply to: howtonhawky

Not consuming ourselves... Hmm, you are referring to cannibalism? In which case, would other people not be considered as being from the outside?

a reply to: swanne

you mean like some people are not human or mammal?

i was just referring to perhaps when it was said not to cannibalize ourselves perhaps it was on a mammalian level instead of a human level

a reply to: howtonhawky

I actually like this idea.

The Native Americans consider all animals as their brothers and their sisters, and so we are required to ask for forgiveness before ending their lives.

My point is, we are all basically one, every life forms do share (as you point out) something with one another, a common prehistoric ancestor.

When you look at the passage where he fed many with few fish and bread you can conclude that he was not a bit concerned with food for himself before he took the journey.

To feed the thousands he could have easily told them to go out and hunt some bigger animals to feed them but it did not seem to be an option for him.

He was never really concerned with eating.that could just be cause it would make for a boring read but i believe that it is all written the way it is for a reason.

not saying he never ate mammals

We do see that much recordings of him fasting and cleansing.

also no mention of soaps being used but there is mention of much cleaning and oiling and such.

just food for thoughts.

getting the thoughts together to make a thread "Life outside the food chain" to me that could be the answer to finding much peace

many will say not possible but from what i read there is a source of living water

so possible foods with and foods without could mean with and without the mammalian species

it will take study and meditation on the subject but i see a path forward when all the pieces fit

a reply to: howtonhawky

There ARE rumours of some people having the ability to live without eating.

Take this man for example.

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