Blaming Entertainment, Can We Do Something Reasonable?

Hi everybody,

Now, I don't have a dog in this fight so let me preface this with that. As somebody who is in his 30s, plays video games all his life, is currently making one, watching violent movies all his life (the 80s had way more gore and violence in them) and being using the internet since it first became a thing in the 90s. Why are we back to blaming these 3 mediums for everything again? Everybody is always about "Hey they are stripping our rights away, we have to do nothing on gun control!". Than why is it ok for us to be blaming 3 things that are clearly not the reason for these mass shootings? All you're asking for is for these 3 mediums to be slowly stripped away from what makes them great. Well my friends in the USA have already had them start stripping away your internet rights last year. I watched Jack Thompson way back when try and say the same old nonsense and guess what? It's the same old nonsense now. Isn't there a reasonable discussion to have about maybe limiting SOME gun things or are my friends in the USA too far gone to have a reasonable discussion that doesn't include talking points from CNN, Fox, NRA, etc? I'm not trying to start a fight or have this devolve in to a partisan tirade of conspiracy and what not (I know I joined this site way back when for the conspiracies ) I just want to hear actual ideas that would be beneficial to the country that would make sense so everyone can come together.

Signed,

A Worried Canadian

P.S Let's stop sending death threats to children and families effected by these shootings? Can that be the one reasonable thing?

a reply to: LogicalPhilosophy

I'm a man. I like to shoot. It's fun.

Why do you think I should not be allowed to do that?

a reply to: rockintitz

I never said you weren't allowed to do that. I think that is a big problem. Everyone thinks people want to take ALL the guns which just isn't true and it allows no wiggle room for discussion.

a reply to: LogicalPhilosophy

Compromise right? Seems great. Give both sides part of what they want.

But I don't want to give anything up. And you are offering nothing in return.

You can't guarantee absolute safety.

originally posted by: LogicalPhilosophy
a reply to: rockintitz

I never said you weren't allowed to do that. I think that is a big problem. Everyone thinks people want to take ALL the guns which just isn't true and it allows no wiggle room for discussion.

There is no wiggle room for discussion.
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As a Canadian, I can understand your confusion about Americans and their love of guns. You have been influenced and ruled by Britain for quite some time. America has that rugged individualism and values freedom in all aspects of our lives.

Our Hollywood community has pandered more and more to violence and action in movies etc and it really is over the top. Not to mention all the horror and disgusting porno. I sound prudish but the trash on Broadway and Hollywood has definitely demeaned and lowered our expectations of true storytelling.

The really vile and almost cartoonish violent video games are purely male porno and lack reality but definitely very effective in addicting our young males.

We need a real revolution in what we value in American life and what we want for our children.

More and more violence in entertainment seems to have spilled over to a sad reality whether it be guns, horror, high speed chasing, worship of materialism etc.

We have lost the sense of community and hide in internet personas that have nothing to do with who we really are and is very attractive to those suffering from illness who hide behind very sad, lonely and scary online angry diatribes.

I would like to see a return to smaller community schools where parents know each other and take more interest in all children and their parents. The more we know about one another the more we will care and perhaps that can help those who are suffering from loneliness and illness and family problems.

The more attention the community shares, perhaps less time, money and energy will be spent with inappropriate, violent entertainment. Perhaps within those smaller schools and PTA meetings and community celebrations we can recapture "small town" lifestyles and concern for all citizens and neighbors, but especially our children who spend way too much time away from families and feeling a part of their community home.

a reply to: Gothmog

That's sad.

a reply to: Justso

Well just so you know, we aren't ruled by the UK lol. We have always been individuals here, we have amazing quality of life and we care for each other here. I'm just confused why you guys don't seem to care about one another?

a reply to: Justso

And I would be all for smaller classrooms, I think teachers have been asking for that for eons now. You can still have that small community feel in large cities, I know where I'm from and it may not sound like much, we have 1.3 million in my city, Calgary. Lovely place, you should come visit. Here, it's a small town feel in a big city, everyone seems to know everyone, if that makes sense. Everyone knew each other where I grew up and there was a lot of us and we all say hi to each other whenever we see each other. I just don't think entertainment is to blame, the 80s were much more graphic in horror, now it's all CGI. Millions of people watch movies and play video games but millions of people don't pick up a movie or game and kill someone. I know that sounds very like I'm leaning somewhere but I'm trying not to.

Everyone thinks people want to take ALL the guns which just isn't true and it allows no wiggle room for discussion.

a reply to: LogicalPhilosophy

NO, there is no wiggle room. Gun laws never get loosened, always tightened...reasonably...until there will be nothing left.

How about we hold the PERPETRATOR accountable, instead of pixels on a screen?