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32 Charges In New Mueller Indictment of Manafort and Gates

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posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 04:13 PM
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I'm skimming over it now but it looks like they added new charges for bank fraud, through last year, charges which where hinted at in documents filed with the court a week ago, following Manafort's request for a change to his bail.

USA Today - Mueller files new charges against former Trump aides Paul Manafort, Rick Gates


Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and his associate Rick Gates already faced charges over their work for a pro-Russian political faction in Ukraine. In a new indictment revealed on Thursday, prosecutors charged that the men then also obtained more than $20 million in loans by lying about their business income.


New indictment on on SCRIBD
edit on 2018-2-22 by theantediluvian because: (no reason given)


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posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 04:16 PM
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OH NO!!!!!

Trump is in trouble now!!!!!!

THEY'VE GOT HIM NOW!!!!!!

Jesus Christ, dude......



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 04:18 PM
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So, explain to me how this is within the mandate of the special prosecutor?


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posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 04:18 PM
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I'll say this again. Mueller is working farther away from Trump with each indictment.


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posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 04:19 PM
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originally posted by: AnonymousCitizen

So, explain to me how this is within the mandate of the special prosecutor?


In the same way that Monika and Scooter were as in not at all.


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posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 04:23 PM
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I wonder when they'll find something that has to do with purpose of the investigation, that is, Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections, including any links or coordination between Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign and the Russian government.

What a travesty. Fishing expedition confirmed. But we already knew that.


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posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 04:32 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Glad you are the OP - IMO, no-one on ATS is more versed to address Manafort dodginess than you - and he's dodgy AF (still nowhere near as dodgy as....)

Anyway, what would be really good is if this thread can remain civil and we can discuss all aspects of his dodginess without insinuating that folks who contribute on the thread are somehow complicit or supportive of such dodginess or deflect to compare the dodginess of others on the other side.

Manafort has a spotlight on him for a reason, the make-up of which is now just coming to light.




posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 04:32 PM
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Millions of dollars down the drain when the FBI
could have done this many years ago way before Trump.

Its all too convenient to keep a few hot ones tucked
away while the FBI was busy hiding evidence to fix your favorite
crooks investigation.

But....still nothing about Muh Russia.


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posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 04:43 PM
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originally posted by: AnonymousCitizen
So, explain to me how this is within the mandate of the special prosecutor?


If the Special Consul finds any evidence of wrong doing while investigating they can bring those charges.

They were looking for Russian Influence in the election. Part of that would be going through financial records and hunting down the source of suspicious transactions.



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 04:46 PM
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Looking at the amounts in counts 29-32, we can conclude that "Lender D" is Federal Savings Bank ($9.5 million + $6.5 million = $16 million, so amount and time frame match):

Mueller asking if Manafort promised banker White House job in return for loans


Manafort received three separate loans in December 2016 and January 2017 from Federal Savings Bank for homes in New York City, Virginia and the Hamptons.

The banker, Stephen Calk, president of the Federal Savings Bank, was announced as a member of candidate Trump's Council of Economic Advisers in August 2016.

The sources say the three loans were questioned by other officials at the bank, and one source said that at least one of the bank employees who felt pressured into approving the deals is cooperating with investigators.

Manafort's LLC, Summerbreeze, then took out a new $9.5 million loan in December using the Hamptons property and house in Alexandria, Virginia, as part of the collateral. The lender was Federal Savings Bank of Chicago, whose chief executive, Calk, was an economic adviser to the Trump campaign.

In January 2017 Federal Savings Bank also lent Manafort and his wife mortgage loans in the amount of $5.3 million and $1.2 million for a separate property located at 377 Union Street in Brooklyn, New York.



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 05:12 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Have you been keeping abreast of this, nearly a blueprint for what is being exposed about the tRump allies in these indictments.

Major Russian mafia trial opens in Spain



A Russian MP, Vladislav Reznik, and 17 other suspects have gone on trial in Madrid accused of massive money-laundering for a Russian mafia gang.

Mr Reznik, whose wife Diana Gindin is also on trial, previously chaired the Russian parliament's financial markets committee. He is a member of the United Russia party, loyal to President Vladimir Putin.

The money-laundering by Russian gangsters in Spain is said to have started in the 1990s, when rich Russians began buying luxury villas in the Costa del Sol and Balearic Islands.

www.bbc.com...

Money laundering through real-estate purchases, sound familiar, cough Trump Towers cough.

K~



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 05:15 PM
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No direct connection to Trump. Wow what a shocker. I don't give a f#ck about Manafort and Gates though i have to wonder why nobody indicted Manafort after all the shadiness surrounding Ukraine deals way before Trump. It's very suspicious how certain people in the Obama administration willingly overlooked it all these years and suddenly realized hey he is a criminal we better charge him. We went from proving russian collusion to election meddling through bots *rolleyes* to bank fraud. Why are the american people supposed to take anything what Mueller does seriously anymore?



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 05:17 PM
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So once again, there is nothing about Trump, Collusion, Russia.... Is anyone willing to admit they were duped by CNN and the DNC yet?

You know what isnt in any kind of DNC/CNN statement or being investigated by Mueller?

Anwan Brothers
Platte River Networks
Seth Rich
Deborah Wasserman Schultz
Donna Brazille and Debate Questions
Mccain & Steele Dossier
Perkins Cole being paid by DNC
Bernie Sanders Primary rigging
Uranium One

... how odd :/



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 05:18 PM
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a reply to: Agit8dChop

That's Sessions and Horowitz job. No worries there time will come. March is gonna be very interesting.



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 05:25 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Wasn't it just on Friday that trump, and all of the ATS alt Right were singing dingdong the witch is dead.

Like I said to you all last week it's not over. Even after today it's not over. I think junior will be indicted eventually, and Possibly Kushner


Seems to me I'm right a lot more then the trump supporters on ATS... It's OK call me names anyway I could care less.

Doesn't "winning" all the time get old?? Lol!


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posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 05:25 PM
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a reply to: aethertek

Your obsession with russians is getting troublesome. Not everything is about Trump no matter how much you want it to be.




posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 05:27 PM
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a reply to: kurthall

You're pretty much wrong all the time but hey who is counting. The reality check you and all the others are going to experience will not be pleasant i guess.



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 05:30 PM
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originally posted by: Perfectenemy
a reply to: aethertek

Your obsession with russians is getting troublesome. Not everything is about Trump no matter how much you want it to be.








LMAO, these Are real criminal charges against trump camp. This is no little deal dude. If this were Hillary you'd be dancing in the rain.



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 05:34 PM
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originally posted by: Perfectenemy
a reply to: kurthall

You're pretty much wrong all the time but hey who is counting. The reality check you and all the others are going to experience will not be pleasant i guess.




18 indictments And how many charges now in the Russia Investigation ???. It's you who needs to Check reality.

Didn't you just say last Friday it was over? If not you were one of the few..

Also I can go back and read all my posts regarding all of this in fact check myself, I know what I said and I know what people like you say.




posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 05:36 PM
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a reply to: kurthall

indictments and charges that have no relation to trump and are from years prior?

when this is all over.. you're gonna be disappointed cause trump is still gonna be president



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