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originally posted by: Pyle
I bet CNN cut his speech and condensed his questions so they could fit in more questions. It would make sense for CNN to do that due to the restricted time available from the Network and the high profile panel members.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Sublimecraft
It's all about controlling the narrative.
CNN is trying to make wanting freedom a bad thing.
CNN is promoting a police-state ideology.
originally posted by: dug88
originally posted by: LogicalGraphitti
originally posted by: dug88
originally posted by: LogicalGraphitti
There a lot of great places in the wold to live but none as great as this country.
Whooo thanks for that. That's about the funniest thing I think I've read all day. Oh man....thank you I was kinda dour before this. This cheered me right up.. ....
Bahahahhahahaahahhahaha....whoooo ok ok im done now...hahahahha
Holy crap I'd rather kill myself than live in America. Seriously. Why would I want to live in a country where the topic of this thread is even an issue? Not to mention the idea of having to pay to go to a hospital, that an ambulance may leave me to die because I have the wrong insurance and countless other things that make America probably one of the last places I'd want to live in this world. America's a #ing joke ass third world # hovel...
Hmmm... I guess wherever you live is one of those places I should never go for fear of being identified as American and verbally insulted. One thing about America is that we let everything out into the open. ATS is a US based site. Does your country have such a place to debate openly about the things that a government would otherwise want to keep quiet?
Why yes. Yes it does in fact I feel more open talking about my things in my country than I would in America. You know.all that people being offended stuff you guys talk about just doesn't happen here. I like to read about it just so I can see how #ed it really is down there. Ya no my country's pretty #ing awesome to live in. It's not like I haven't been to America either this comes also from first hand experience being in the country as well.
And I mean what kind.of country lets their election come down to a tax dodging possibly murderous criminal or a tax dodging criminal that bankrupted a bunch of businesses and destroyed several low income neighborhoods. Seriously it's not even funny and you all argue like it would have made the slightest #ing difference who won. America would be the funniest #ing reality show in the world if you forget that they seem intent on destroying and conquering it.
It'a pretty funny how Americans think their country is so #ing free. It's pretty #ing laughable especially when such ignorance about the rest of the world comes with it.
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: Thirty6BelowZero
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: neo96
What's your point ?
My point is that we need to discuss whether or not this story is true, otherwise it should just be dumped into the Mud Pit so the right wingers can high five each other over what might just be another "fake news" story. What do you think? Should we ask the Mods to move it? Or is someone going to prove that this is not "disinformation?"
If proof lies in the eye of the accuser, then I'm curious whether or not you wanted proof from Debbie Gibson when she accused Moore of molesting her almost half a century ago or did you decide to take her word for it while expecting Moore to show proof he didn't do it?
Roy Moore said he would sue for libel. He did not, which implies he could not have won his case.
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: SoulSurfer
If you own guns out of fear you will never truly be free. Vanquish your fears and you will finally taste freedom.
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: SoulSurfer
I do not own a gun because I am not afraid. You fear your own shadow, so you belie e that demons are outside you rather than within you.
originally posted by: six67seven
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Sublimecraft
It's all about controlling the narrative.
CNN is trying to make wanting freedom a bad thing.
CNN is promoting a police-state ideology.
I feel like we should be calling PEOPLE out not just some 3-letter acronym. Who are the decision-makers behind CNN's quest for a police-state-of-mind??
Otherwise there is no possibility for accountability.
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Sublimecraft
CNN caters to the Anti-America crowd. Boycott the products that are advertised on CNN, and let those advertisers (companies) know that you are, and why. I've been doing this periodically since early 2017. Advertising is 45% of CNN's revenue.
Over forty people have read this thread and only two did their due diligence. Everyone else simply took the OP at face value. You are entitled to your opinion, of course, but calling people who disagree with you politically "anti-American" is, ironically, un-American.
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: smurfy
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: DJW001
It's possible that Haab is lying about CNN, but there's no disputing that this kid was supposed to ask a question at the town hall. CNN tweeted a statement about it (although they dispute that the scripted anything).
As to whether he's a student...honestly, it would take seeing school enrollment records to *prove* anyone is a student there.
But, apparently, CNN believes he is a student.
Cuedos for doing something the OP didn't do...as in checking it out further,
Maybe it is 10 News that is worth checking out as they may now belong to Sinclair Comms, or Cunningham, which is really the same organisation.
Exactly my point. This is the "Dissecting Disinformation" Forum, not the Mud Pit. Members should do their due diligence before posting here.
UPDATE: CNN released the following statement Thursday morning:
CNN did not, and does not, script any questions for town hall meetings, ever.
UPDATE @8:47AM ET: CNN released a more extensive statement that explained the situation.
In a longer statement, CNN confirmed Haab was invited by the network to participate but his father decided to withdraw his name from participation. CNN said Haab wanted to give an extensive speech and not just ask a question, something the network said the forum was not designed for. CNN noted the subject Haab wanted to address, arming teachers, was discussed at length in the 2-hour long town hall event.
CNN has invited Haab to appear on the network.
Full statement from CNN's Richard Hudock:
There is absolutely no truth to this. CNN did not provide or script questions for anyone in last night's town hall, nor have we ever. After seeing an interview with Colton Haab, we invited him to participate in our town hall along with other students and administrators from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School. Colton’s father withdrew his name from participation before the forum began, which we regretted but respected. We welcome Colton to join us on CNN today to discuss his views on school safety.
According to a CNN insider Haab wanted to give an extensive speech and not just ask a question, something the network said the forum was not designed for. When the family was told this they decided to pull out of the event. The CNNer also noted the subject Haab wanted to address, arming teachers, was discussed at length in the 2-hour long town hall.
originally posted by: Lab4Us
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: smurfy
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: DJW001
It's possible that Haab is lying about CNN, but there's no disputing that this kid was supposed to ask a question at the town hall. CNN tweeted a statement about it (although they dispute that the scripted anything).
As to whether he's a student...honestly, it would take seeing school enrollment records to *prove* anyone is a student there.
But, apparently, CNN believes he is a student.
Cuedos for doing something the OP didn't do...as in checking it out further,
Maybe it is 10 News that is worth checking out as they may now belong to Sinclair Comms, or Cunningham, which is really the same organisation.
Exactly my point. This is the "Dissecting Disinformation" Forum, not the Mud Pit. Members should do their due diligence before posting here.
Wait, because CNN said they didn’t do, we just accept they didn’t do it? Haven’t we been down this road before and CNN had to apologize, retract, and fire people?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: six67seven
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Sublimecraft
It's all about controlling the narrative.
CNN is trying to make wanting freedom a bad thing.
CNN is promoting a police-state ideology.
I feel like we should be calling PEOPLE out not just some 3-letter acronym. Who are the decision-makers behind CNN's quest for a police-state-of-mind??
Otherwise there is no possibility for accountability.
CNN encompasses an entire subset of society that simply wants the Constitution and Bill of Rights scrapped.
originally posted by: soberbacchus
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: six67seven
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Sublimecraft
It's all about controlling the narrative.
CNN is trying to make wanting freedom a bad thing.
CNN is promoting a police-state ideology.
I feel like we should be calling PEOPLE out not just some 3-letter acronym. Who are the decision-makers behind CNN's quest for a police-state-of-mind??
Otherwise there is no possibility for accountability.
CNN encompasses an entire subset of society that simply wants the Constitution and Bill of Rights scrapped.
Said they guy who has made it his day-job to defend a President who both is uniquely ignorant of the constitution and hateful of it's principles.
Well let's see...I don't know Colton Haab but I know CNN...I'll bet Colton doesn't have a history of lying but like I said, I know CNN...
originally posted by: soberbacchus
originally posted by: Lab4Us
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: smurfy
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: DJW001
It's possible that Haab is lying about CNN, but there's no disputing that this kid was supposed to ask a question at the town hall. CNN tweeted a statement about it (although they dispute that the scripted anything).
As to whether he's a student...honestly, it would take seeing school enrollment records to *prove* anyone is a student there.
But, apparently, CNN believes he is a student.
Cuedos for doing something the OP didn't do...as in checking it out further,
Maybe it is 10 News that is worth checking out as they may now belong to Sinclair Comms, or Cunningham, which is really the same organisation.
Exactly my point. This is the "Dissecting Disinformation" Forum, not the Mud Pit. Members should do their due diligence before posting here.
Wait, because CNN said they didn’t do, we just accept they didn’t do it? Haven’t we been down this road before and CNN had to apologize, retract, and fire people?
Colton Habb, the student (or his father who withdrew him from the townhall) are welcome to dispute the facts? Silence.
Don't you think that people wrongfully accused of lying would want to publicly defend the smear?
BSers hide in silence when exposed, except here on ATS where anonymity gives them shelter to double down, like yourself.
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: smurfy
There is no way that CNN didn't broadcast live without a delay. It's standard...just in case someone cusses or tries to shoot themselves in the head on live television, for example.
Of course CNN could easily script any townhall and if any participant went rogue/off-script...they could easily censor or cut to commercial.
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
sent him an entirely different question to read.
Haab also inferred that it appeared that all the questions were scripted and referenced that all the students who asked questions had the exact same size/type of notepaper with a single question written on it.