Age limit on AR-15's?

originally posted by: namehere
why? the majority of gun crimes especially in schools are committed by people 21 and over so what is the point of an age limit?

is a civil war really worth it to you anti-gun advocates? keep pushing if you all really think it's a good idea in the charged environment in this country right now, can't you see how close the pot is to overflowing? just one wrong spark and we'll have a disaster far worse than school violence.

we are not Canada, Australia, the U.K, or Europe and pushing us in the same direction will awaken the beast that has been held back by the constitution so far, our nation has always had a tendency to try terrible things until it was ruled unconstitutional, we shifted focus or it got de-funded.

if you want a war mongering imperialistic hard right corporation dominated nationalistic socialist-capitalist state then go ahead and disarm the constitution of it's power and authority by invalidating the 2nd and 14th amendment.

age limits on our rights is illegal straight up people, voting is different because that age limit was set by the constitution itself, and the way the 2nd is written i don't see an amendment being feasible either, if this passed it would shortly be tossed out as being unconstitutional and illegal.

We already know what limiting things like this can do. It makes the under 18's want to do it more, because it's 'forbidden'. Anyone who ever made laws up knows this well known fact. But there's a lot in between disallowing and then pushing it through Movies and Media to make it appear super cool.

Trends are set ahead of time, and the makers of chaos know that all too well.

a reply to: Lucidparadox


Honest question about your idea... how would this not price the guns out of poor peoples hands?


Also legally accountable, what about military people living over seas in a place we were not allowed to bring our guns so they have to be left stateside with a family member?


The military wont store my firearms, so I had to find another way.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: intrptr

We have the means. Just too many don't feel the need, 'til it bites. By then, it's usually too late.

We get the govt. we deserve.

Yah, I guess Im still here because way back in the 80s I saw this coming and didn't attack the gubment by force of arms.

Because then I would be dead, infamously shamed by society as a nutcase, and kicked around historically by psychoanalysts because I was 'crazy' for killing people to keep the Constitution true to its word.

Guess which Congressmen get the most money from gun purchases? The ones who speak out first, and the loudest, AGAINST raising the age from 18 to 21.

Here's the first: John Cornyn

Source: www.msn.com...

If Congress wasn't in middle of a 10-day President's Day vacation, we'd be hearing from others who stand to lose. Since Cornyn spoke out while on vacation, his ties to the gun lobbies must be $$$$ deep.

a reply to: network dude

Ill be damned if i tolerate restrictions to me because of a crooked sherrif and an incompetant FBI.

FWIW if you buildbyour own AR you still have to be 21 to buy the upper reciever.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: network dude

Ill be damned if i tolerate restrictions to me because of a crooked sherrif and an incompetant FBI.

FWIW if you buildbyour own AR you still have to be 21 to buy the upper reciever.

I think it's the lower. just the frame of the lower. the part with the serial number.

You may or may not be allowed to buy one 80% made, and finish the remaining milling on your own, given the proper tools.
And from what I understand the law, allows you to make your own weapon, but you can't sell it. I'm like 2% sure on the laws, but I've heard it's all legit.

You can buy full uppers all day long, with BCG, for about $300, and with no paperwork other than pay, and get a receipt, you are good to go.

I got an all polymer lower, with stock, complete for like $140. I use it for my golf ball launcher I take to golf tournaments. And it's a damn good weapon. It fires a lot of dirty rounds, and with regular cleaning, it's always fired. When I come to town, golf balls scatter. They know my wallet says Bad Mutha ...well, you know.

18 years old is the right age for buying longguns.

Heck if we're going to change a law, it should be 18 for handguns as well.

For all the reasons already articulated in this thread.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: network dude

Ill be damned if i tolerate restrictions to me because of a crooked sherrif and an incompetant FBI.

FWIW if you buildbyour own AR you still have to be 21 to buy the upper reciever.

I think it's the lower. just the frame of the lower. the part with the serial number.

You may or may not be allowed to buy one 80% made, and finish the remaining milling on your own, given the proper tools.
And from what I understand the law, allows you to make your own weapon, but you can't sell it. I'm like 2% sure on the laws, but I've heard it's all legit.

You can buy full uppers all day long, with BCG, for about $300, and with no paperwork other than pay, and get a receipt, you are good to go.

I got an all polymer lower, with stock, complete for like $140. I use it for my golf ball launcher I take to golf tournaments. And it's a damn good weapon. It fires a lot of dirty rounds, and with regular cleaning, it's always fired. When I come to town, golf balls scatter. They know my wallet says Bad Mutha ...well, you know.

Yup, 100% right on it being the lower receiver of an AR15 that is the controlled part. Everything else from the barrel to upper to stock etc is not controlled in any way. But the age limit for buying that lower is the same as it is for buying a rifle, 18 at the federal level.

BTW, polymer lowers are hit and miss, there are some good ones out thee but there are also some bad ones that don't hold up very well. Sounds like you got one of the good ones, which brand? As well, most well built ARs will tolerate dirty ammo and do not need a lot of cleaning like myth would have us believe. I've run thousands of rounds through well built ARs with little to no cleaning, but I do keep them lubed very well. It also helps if you are using something like a Nickel Boron BCG from a good company, an extra power buffer spring and heavy buffer. Those changes can help an AR power through dirt and keep cycling even when dirty.

a reply to: network dude

The gun debates gets my blood boiling. I can't stand it when people who know absolutely nothing about a subject spouts off their inane drivel that they pretend to have "read" somewhere, but in reality got from some liberal news source that also doesn't know anything about the subject.

Basically - An AR-15 "assault rifle" is a regular sport / hunting rifle in cosplay. It's akin to taking a four cylinder Mustang but painting it in racing stripes and slapping some V8 decals on it. It doesn't change what it is, but it makes it look like its bigger brother.

Take the well known M1A from years past, here's one most people would associate with hunting:

i.imgur.com...

But here's a mean man killer meant to kill Kill KILL!

i.imgur.com...

In reality, both are the EXACT same rifle. Only materials and paint is different. Both use the same ammo, have the same magazines and same rate of fire. Yet I will guarantee you the black "evil" one will get peoples panties in a twist.

Your daily reminder that the 2A isn't about hunting. This isn't even what the founding fathers envisioned. It was (and still is!) a form of protection we the people have in case our government wants to oppress us, or if an invading force wants to. So when people spout off "you don't need a 50 round magazine to hunt!" tell them they're exactly right! You need that 50 round magazine to kill those who want to oppress you, like the 2A outlined!

a reply to: network dude

Aye the age limit should be 130 years old, problem solved really.

At least where ArmaLites are concerned.

i dropped a 300 pound/plus hog about an hour ago with my old H&R 12 gauge single-shot break-barrel.
Pork for months.
Clean head shot.
Didn't even twitch.