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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: LogicalGraphitti
But overcharging the entire planet for it is.
originally posted by: Gothmog
You do not own Microsoft Windows at any point of any ones. The same with most software produced in the known universe. You LEASE applications for 99 years . And the company retains the right at any time to revoke your lease
Feel better now ?
originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: LogicalGraphitti
I get what you are saying. I still dont agree.
The car is likeone day going to use your ignition on your perfectly good car you took care of, only to find it wont start now.
Whats worse is that the manufacturer made all mechanics refuse to service your car or go bankrupt themselves for doing their job.
Then you find out its all a ploy so you have to buy a new car from the manufacturer with a bunch of crap you didnt want.
So you steal YOUR CAR, hotwire it and use your property.
I should add that I pirate my own OS. One I bought.
Beleive it or not, I know someone still using Windows ME.
originally posted by: LightSpeedDriver
originally posted by: Gothmog
You do not own Microsoft Windows at any point of any ones. The same with most software produced in the known universe. You LEASE applications for 99 years . And the company retains the right at any time to revoke your lease
Feel better now ?
Incorrect. A Microsoft license is not for 99 years, or any commercial application for that matter. A license runs for the lifetime of that product. Applications may differ to OS's as far as licenses go but the rule is "generally" the same. You can still legally run XP if you possess a license but it is unsupported and will not be updated and most commercial applications will eventually only support newer windows versions. You are free to run older versions of any commercial product if you possess the license. Many business/consumer PCs have the MS license sticker on the case with the product key. After a while activation might be a problem because older products get deactivated but theoretically and legally speaking you can still use them.
No one can force an upgrade, legally speaking.
ETA You are partially correct. Buying a license does not let one "own" the product. It gives the right to use it indefinitely. Proprietary software is always licensed because only the software house owns it.
originally posted by: LightSpeedDriver
a reply to: Gothmog
Incorrect again, nice fail though. I'm a sys-admin and know that of which I speak. A licence (license?) agreement never needs to be signed. It's called an EULA and is implied at installation time. Click the checkbox, then next.
Have fun!
So he hatched a plan to copy and sell to refurbishers PCs with Microsoft restore discs
originally posted by: Willtell
I don’t know, something seems very wrong here.
originally posted by: LogicalGraphitti
originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Willtell
This is why the last microsoft software product I paid hundreds of dollars for was Vista.
I have and will always use pirated software. PROUDLY.
If they dont like us doing that, then they need to stop trying to control the competition and actually let a real alternative flourish.
Proudly you say? What do you do for a living? My career includes mor than 20 years as a developer. Writing code isn't a pastime, it's a profession. Thankfully, there weren't many people stealing my code so it's all good.
Whatever you do for living, I hope someone takes advantage of your efforts and you don't get a paycheck.
originally posted by: Gothmog
originally posted by: LightSpeedDriver
a reply to: Gothmog
Incorrect again, nice fail though. I'm a sys-admin and know that of which I speak. A licence (license?) agreement never needs to be signed. It's called an EULA and is implied at installation time. Click the checkbox, then next.
Have fun!
And to click the I agree box and continuing you "sign" the agreement
Maybe , if I get to participate for the Debate Forum , you will be my first challenge. In ANYTHING Sys-Admin related.
I shall look forward to it.
BTW - I am the one Sys-Admins call when they have no clue....
originally posted by: LogicalGraphitti
originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: LogicalGraphitti
I know I am scum.
I could make much more money if I told my customers one price, then after they got my services I told them " no Im not doing that for you anymore, but you could buy more of my newer services if you still need them."
The analogy is kind of my like my old car. It's paid for, runs reliably but it isn't worth much. If I want something new and modern, I need to buy a new one. I can't expect the manufacturer to give me a new one .
Also if I make it my purpose to drive out competition and innovation so people are stuck with me, I would make even more money!
Yes, that's just being competitive. It doesn't mean you have put your rivals out of business but if you can't compete, you die. That's the law of the jungle.
I might not be liked very much but who cares right?
It depends what you're in business for. Do you want to earn good money or are you trying to be nice to your competition?
I do buy from and donate to developers and honest companies. Microsoft? I will never stop pirating their OS. I have paid thousands of dollars at one point for business computers for MS to one day try to FORCE me to upgrade and spend more.
That wasnt part of the deal. So deals off
Back to the car analogy, do you really expect to pay once and get free new cars forever? Odd that you feel Microsoft is dishonest. What makes them so?
originally posted by: Tempter
I've been in IT for 17 years and am primarily a Windows user. Yes, I'm a developer (cloud developer) and even though my Linux A game is enterprise-quality, I still prefer to run Windows on almost any PC.
originally posted by: Pilgrum
a reply to: Willtell
The solution appears to be reformatting the HDD to wipe all traces of anything MS and installing an open source OS like Linux which can be legally obtained for the price of a magazine or downloaded for free.
Except one.
Can you guess which device I don't run Windows on (besides phone)?
My laptop. On my main squeeze I run Linux Mint.
My main gaming PC, Windows.
Linux STILL sucks from a usability perapective. I hope it dies from a new, better mutli-device OS with a unified app store.
Oh wait, like Android.
When the Note 9 comes out with DEX2 I'm ALL over that.
Anyway, this guy actually will go to jail for a year and a half
originally posted by: TimHeller
Wow! crazy scary, so what am i going to do when they come for my windows 7 desktop! profits at all costs ffs