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This seems hopeless. I believe in hope. I don't believe that God starts us off with negative points and if we strive for grace, we gain some.
You can not save yourself with good works or trying to be good. You are a born sinner when you were conceived in this world. If you believe you are not a sinner or a liver, you lie to yourself.
originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: darkuniverse
Do you know the quickest way to becoming an atheist? Start asking them questions.
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: darkuniverse
What would be the point of ever doing good works if they don't matter?
I'll have none of this free pass crap...
And IF This god will give a free pass to anyone just for a belief i'll have none of him either
Clearly the place is filled with asshats anyways
Check please...
Dont do anything for the reward, do it because we love Jesus
originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: Akragon
Would you at least ask why God gives "free passes"? It would be good to understand why before turning it down.
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Raggedyman
I was talking about all the murderers, rapists... etc etc
Just believe and all is forgiven, they get a free pass...
i don't believe it for a second but thats what you're selling
Dont do anything for the reward, do it because we love Jesus
Sure ya do...
Know them by their fruit indeed