8 Chan QAnon Board Deleted

originally posted by: Cutepants
I don't know about the second part. Obama supporters wanted change too AFAIK. I agree they're the same as Trump fans but Q is more of an underground thing, can't really compare them. But I'd say they are more pure of heart, yeah.

You just repeated what I said. Both Obama and Trump supporters hope for change from their leader while Q supporters feel they are doing something about it.

originally posted by: OveRcuRrEnteD
really? so you are speaking for everyone "who doesn't believe in the QAnon posts"?
...and from my observation, that statement is clearly not true

Even the most uninformed person about the QAnon discussion doubting the claims is on firmer standing than anyone who believes them as long as the burden of proof isn't met by QAnon.

the source was not 100% anonymous. 99% maybe but not 100%. I'm pretty sure there may be a few members here who do know who Q is. I think Q was actually at least 4 people.
so what kind of debate would be acceptable if not logical and honest?

The only debate I would entertain about Q is who he (they) is (are) and what his (their) motivations truly are. I don't care one iota about claims as I doubt they will ever produce the evidence backing them up. Though if that situation changes I'd be willing to revisit this statement.

Skepticism was my position when I first started researching Q. Not so skeptical now but I will say that I am still skeptical about the motives behind it.

It's easy to write things that sound believable. Especially if the intended targets are already willing or want to believe in the things being claimed. Notice that his claims aren't posted in open forums but in HUGE alt right echo chamber forums? If I were to go to one of those boards and voice my skepticism, I'd be ridiculed then banned from the boards in rather short order. That should be a HUGE red flag to anyone seeking an honest account of the claims.

Heck, forget about the fact that the sub-forum is a huge alt right echo chamber, I just associate 4chan, or any chan board for that matter, with trolling, porn, and obnoxiousness. You are essentially getting your politics from the same location people get their porn from. Porn repositories aren't exactly known for being reputable and trustworthy places on the internet. So make that 2 HUGE red flags for anyone seeking an honest account of the claims.

Well then, I guess our little conversation is finished. Good Day.

~OveR

Well you could attempt to explain why someone such as myself who is hostile to the content within should take the content seriously. After all, I already explained why someone with confirmation bias would be willing to believe it. It sounds like something they want to believe, but convincing the people who are already willing to believe is shooting fish in the barrel. If you can't show to the skeptics why these claims should be believed then they will remain a silly conspiracy in the mainstream lexicon. That's just how things work.

Or you could quit the conversation and pretend I'm a lost cause because I refuse to see things your way.

originally posted by: Chadwickus
Multiple times you say? Why not every time?

They couldn't tell if he was going into the bathroom to do number 1 or number 2.

originally posted by: Outlier13
I understand the correlation you are attempting to draw but those dots do no in anyway connect.

Who said they were correlated? I said they are examples of similar marketing strategies.

a reply to: daskakik

You said Obama supporters did not want to be part of something that causes change; that's what I was disagreeing with. I think people where volunteering a lot during his campaign and so on and so forth. Arguably everyone is an idiot but I'm 100% certain a lot of them felt they where part of something that would cause change. I just don't get this idea that only Q people are real activists. Everyone is bloviating on the internet these days, not just those guys.

Can't we just agree to agree? I don't think I was even disagreeing about anything with you in the first post, then you changed your mind. But I do that too, it's a good thing.

originally posted by: Cutepants
You said Obama supporters did not want to be part of something that causes change; that's what I was disagreeing with.

No, Obama was "Hope and Change 1.0"
Trump is "Hope and Change 2.0"

Both their followers are hoping/want to be a part of change but waited/are waiting for the president to do it.

Can't we just agree to agree? I don't think I was even disagreeing about anything with you in the first post, then you changed your mind. But I do that too, it's a good thing.

Actually I didn't really change anything I just differentiated between the average Trump supporter and those who support Trump and also feel they are helping by spreading info (like Q's) and waking people up .

a reply to: Krazysh0t

The only debate I would entertain about Q is who he (they) is (are) and what his (their) motivations truly are.

why not start that conversation here and now. or start a thread on it.

Well you could attempt to explain why someone such as myself who is hostile to the content within should take the content seriously.

I have already stated that I am not trying to convince anybody of anything so why would I do that? I have read enough to satisfy my own curiosity. Why should I attempt to satisfy anyone else's? I could attempt to explain why one should take it seriously but what would be the point when one is hostile to the content?

Or you could quit the conversation and pretend I'm a lost cause because I refuse to see things your way.

I am quitting the conversation for reasons I already stated, not because of what you think I am pretending to do. I never even inferred that you or anyone else is "lost cause because I refuse to see things your way" let alone said anything like that.

~OveR

originally posted by: OveRcuRrEnteD
why not start that conversation here and now. or start a thread on it.

Because I have nothing to contribute there. I don't believe the Qanaon stuff remember? I can't exactly start a blank thread and say, "Discuss the qualifications of QAnon". I need to bring something to the table.

I have already stated that I am not trying to convince anybody of anything so why would I do that? I have read enough to satisfy my own curiosity. Why should I attempt to satisfy anyone else's? I could attempt to explain why one should take it seriously but what would be the point when one is hostile to the content?

Because that is what debate forums are for.

a reply to: purplemer

the information war is because he sucks thats all
even in the 80's/90's people already called him the "most evil man in the world"

www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: purplemer

the information war is because he sucks thats all
even in the 80's/90's people already called him the "most evil man in the world"

I dont need to convince you. If you want to see the truth its clear as bells. If you dont want to you will remain deaf. That is your choice.

Take care

It's definitely KimDotCom

IMO

He talks with the same internet persona, and his twitter account tweets similar to Q

That doesn't sound convincing, I know... but I'm certainly convinced it's Kim

a reply to: MRuss

Surely the wrangling might be more than one way? Seems like all the fire-up revolutionaries have gradually converged on the Q trope, and now they're being led into the online version of a 'holding pen' with Qanon.com ...?

Seems like something to be wary of, even if I'm wrong on this exact point..

I don't quite understand the level of vitriol from the pessimists and cynical naysayers, but to each their own.

I determined a long time ago that the only reasonable and rational reaction/response to evil and a world gone mad - is an optimistic and hopeful outlook which doesn't give in to apathy or the idea that the world-as-it-is status quo isn't or can't be changed.

There are some who will even play the role of devil's advocate to the hilt and in them can be detected much hatred, fear and loathing.

What Q has raised, even as a mere possibility, is the idea that the White Hats or the good guys and the true Patriots are ON THE MOVE to reclaim for the American people, a fundamental birthright that's implicit in the documents of the founding fathers.

Many or most of us here, are well aware that a systemic evil run amok has been very active and persistent for decades, if not centuries and even millennia.

So we ask ourselves, why not? Why wouldn't it be conceivable that the good out number the bad evil psychopaths and monsters, by an order of magnitude at least twofold greater (probably more), and, having seen enough, might rise up and reclaim the ship while tossing out the pirates?

Why is that such an unreasonable expectation and hope, that eventually, even inevitably, the evil structure would be taken down and taken apart and smashed, while running the evil and the wicked out of power, who we're well aware make use of the duopoly and aggregated wealth and power and secret plans and yes, conspiracies, to leverage into place a permanent shadow government that pulls all the strings, including bloody ones, to serve a two-fold purpose, one to own and control history, and two, to feed a racket that's running in the basement which aligns with evils that the average person can hardly fathom.

We've seen their signs and symbols and the allegory of their theater. The fruits of the evil tree are rather apparent, to most of us, although I can't speak for everyone else. The data, is in.

The HOPE that Q represents is founded and based on the idea that he really is an insider linked with Trump and that he's more than one person, and at the most fundamental level represents the will and the best interest of the people, not unlike JFK was setting out to bring about before they triangulated him and shot him in the head in front of the whole world, to then graft onto the American historical tree, well, an evil branch where the shadow government and the corruption which gave rise to the Bush's and the Clinton's would rule even with the aid of Lucifer or Satan (for the theistic Occultists), as a form of power on earth and only God knows where else - as if that would form the apex of the global system.

If so, and in the sense that this type of hierarchy could be envisioned by such people, then it holds a rather low opinion of the true nature of Civilization "out there".

It appears to rely on some sort of demonology, combined with the hermeneutical principal of "as above, so below" whereby what is loosed on earth is loosed in heaven above.

But it would never occur to them that such a conspiracy might also contain the corollary of "what is bound on earth is bound in heaven also" or that evil in all of it's many forms isn't self-reinforcing and sustaining.

It makes a covert appeal to our darker angels in an everything goes permissive framework which indeed is revealed to a large degree at the place where the left meets the left-hand path, which needn't disparage average everyday American Liberal Democrats or normies who feel that the world we live in, is basically, normal, without any deep dark devil worshipping and pedosatanism and all manner of evil and wickedness and all corruption running as a racket in the basement of the halls of power and the lawless and untouchable domain of the so-called "elite" (think moneyed).

Many of us are ringing the alarm bells, and we're pointing out that there is a distinction somewhere in the midst of it all that simply MUST be differentiated or there's a breakdown in the integrity of Justice and everything that's worth living for and even dying for to uphold, and, in order to retain the right to the last laugh at the devil's expense.

On the far side of the ordeal is a new domain of everlasting and self-sustaining freedom and possibility as we boldly march across the bridge to the future, across the "divided middle" between what is and what really OUGHT to be, who's very keystone that upholds it none other than a perfect model of authentic leadership made manifest yes in the person and philosophy of Jesus Christ or, for those who don't believe He was Godsent, everything that he stood for and took upon Himself to uphold for the sake of our MUTUAL Liberation and Freedom, on the other side of the ordeal or a necessary suffering.

So the only real question to ask is - is Q a LARP, or, a Trump insider with actual Q clearance?

If a LARP, then he's damn good! Better than anything any of us have ever seen before, particularly when it comes to unfolding events and circumstances both in the USA and around the world. He or they have certainly given us a lot of hope with all the hope porn.

If a Trump insider, for real, then there's a secret war going on, some of the effects of which have already started to break out on the world stage, as the beast starts to thrash around in the abyss chained in chains of growing evidence who's last ditch efforts and gasps are forming still more and ever tighter chains - but it cannot be sunk, deep sixed in the abyss without a full grokking and understanding and comprehension.


It Q is real, and a team, then I think I know what happened to "him" the day before yesterday was it?

A larger Q, more of an overarching one emerged (think government of the USA), and the reason it wasn't signed Q, is because one person was starting to dominate the comms and they were becoming increasingly personal, resulting in Q the persona being admired and adulated, which he was allowing himself to get pulled into.

SuperQ doesn't sign Q. Device was the same however, since the Tripcode wasn't hacked or can't be hacked (if I understand it correctly and the reason why he moved from 4Chan to 8Chan).

Speculation: For all we know there is a 16Chan out there somewhere with only limited access that isn't for our consumption but where we've already been left with ample crumbs for future to prove past as the news unlocks the past. Would a group led by Trump use a Chan to conduct ops? Is that a possibility?

Q claimed that they had the full spectrum of Military Intelligence and that they "HAVE IT ALL".

I guess time will tell.

If Q's with Trump then he's a true Patriot. They are, and there would be more than a few people here who would owe Q and those of us involved in the research and dissemination (#ReleaseTheMemo?) a real heartfelt apology.

If a LARP, then I'd be the first to be more than a little disappointed. Life would go on.

I don't see how such a secret war could NOT be going on, and I think we've been seeing some of the signs of it in some events like the shooting down in Florida - creepy! and the way that BHO, HRC, Soros-orgs and Clooney, CNN etc are milking the event and kids to try to create a movement to topple Trump by taking over Congress in November is creepier still. It's not about guns at all, but about power and AUTHORITY.

Trump understands that that authority is from God and people.

Wow. One post about an important topic, - zero - posts following up on that topic, and 11 pages of nonsense.

Thanks for wasting my time, pages 2-11. Any actual follow up on the missing Q board?

a reply to: LanceCorvette


It's not REALLY missing at all. It was simply cleared. Q (they) can start posting on it again whenever they wish.

8ch.net...

There was some activity with Q posts going up and coming down, a flag went missing then reappeared at the end, with the last three posts not signed Q, but with the tagline in all three - FOR GOD AND COUNTRY.

the idea of CLEAN ACTION on the HIGHEST AUTHORITY, and the removal of everything on the Q read-only board might simply signify a new phase of whatever's going on.

What i don't think it was was a hijack or coup since the Tripcode wasn't compromised or hacked and thus, all the activity was FROM the same device and IP address.

The board might very well have come under attack when posts were going down, coming back up, down then up again, which happened at one point.

Q had also all but left the read-only board to engage with the Anons on the Q Research Board contrary to what he/they stated in the opening posts of the read-only personal one (see link above).

If Q's a LARP, then the whole thing was a ruse to make it appear as if something BIG just took place.

It could have also been just a way to freak out black hat observers and sniffers to keep them guessing, and maybe going back to normal activities and movements and comms, who hope against hope that Q was just a LARP or maybe one of their own a black hat, in which case the apparent "coup" might mislead them to believe that all is well and that they can proceed and carry on business as usual...OR NOT.

In which case, all the anti-Q folks calling Q out as nothing but a LARP might be doing good work, so that the evil will continue to do evil.

[EYES ON]

a reply to: Krazysh0t

The only debate I would entertain about Q is who he (they) is (are) and what his (their) motivations truly are.

They're (there are multiple people posting as Q) a group of white house insider's playing a game to keep people engaged.

a reply to: AnkhMorpork

Did you just say that if Q is lying it is the fault of the people who don't believe their lies?

originally posted by: Dfairlite


They're (there are multiple people posting as Q) a group of white house insider's playing a game to keep people engaged.

a reply to: AnkhMorpork

LOL it's a damn addicting game, that's for sure!