Mass Shootings and Suicides In Amerca - Both Have MENTAL ILLNESS in Common.

February 15, 2018

Every time there's a mass shooting in America...particularly one where young people are involved, there's an outpouring of emotions, and cries to "DO SOMETHING!" But after a few weeks, those demands go silent....until the next mass shooting.

While mass-shootings of young people, by young people, are big headline grabbers, the BIGGER LOSS to families each year is from SUICIDE. Every year, an average of 4,600 (yes..4,600!) young Americans, between the ages of 10 and 24, intentionally kill themselves! And most times, the suicide is not reported by the hometown newspapers, and there are no announcements to students in school. It's tragic.

Source for Statistic: www.cbsnews.com...

Since MENTAL ILLNESS is the primary cause of mass-shootings, it must ALSO be mental illness that triggers the majority of suicides amongst young people in America. (Commonality)

Rather than discussing gun-control measures, or throwing addictive medications at young people, why can't resources be devoted to isolate what traits (or genes?) make a person more suseptible to Mass Murders, or Suicides?

According to the World Health Organization, there are 3,000 suicides EVERY DAY on the planet. If humankind can pool resources to develop a TREATMENT/CURE that prevents people from wanting to end their own life, it's logical that this treatment can also reduce mass-murders too, since they're both tied to a MENTAL ILLNESS. (N/A those with terminal illnesses.) What do you think ATS? Can we fix two big problems with one CURE?

-CareWeMust

a reply to: carewemust


Children are being coddled and are not being prepared for life.

They have no coping skills.

They have no problem-solving skills.

So when the hard parts of life reach the sheltered youths, they are not equipped to handle it.

Our society is responsible for the deaths and suicides.

Spot on. With 70% of the US population on some form of prescribed mind-altering drugs , makes one think doesn't it ?
Is it the affliction or the supposed treatment ?

Which follows DB's post above. (which I have just noticed)

a reply to: DBCowboy

Parents have it pretty tough. Trying to make ends meet. Take a family vacation when possible. They know responsibility.

You're saying parents are so busy, they're neglecting their children?

originally posted by: Gothmog
Spot on. With 70% of the US population on some form of prescribed mind-altering drugs , makes one think doesn't it ?
Is it the affliction or the supposed treatment ?

The more severe mental affliction could have been triggered by the medication that was designed to treat some milder mental condition...like ADHD?

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: DBCowboy

Parents have it pretty tough. Trying to make ends meet. Take a family vacation when possible. They know responsibility.

You're saying parents are so busy, they're neglecting their children?

Where'd he say any of that?

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: DBCowboy

Parents have it pretty tough. Trying to make ends meet. Take a family vacation when possible. They know responsibility.

You're saying parents are so busy, they're neglecting their children?

If I may , I will answer that question :
Yes. As opposed to when I was young . Dad and Mom both worked very long hours every single day. Yet , they found time to teach us about life and spend time with us children . Now they just buy em stuff.
I also maintained that same wisdom installing process with my children . My wife did as well . Taught them .
Spare time is mostly available because no one works every single day , 24 hrs. No one.
Neglect or a simple dismissal of responsibilities because they have other things to do ? And a school will teach them what to do type of mentality.
Folks are finding it hard because in some (if not most cases) , they are trying to keep up with the Jones next door.....not realizing the Jones are in the same boat as they are trying to keep up with the Smiths . But that is a whole nuther thread within itself

Which leads to mental health issues all the way around and thus the percentages above.

Make sense ?

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: DBCowboy

Parents have it pretty tough. Trying to make ends meet. Take a family vacation when possible. They know responsibility.

You're saying parents are so busy, they're neglecting their children?

They aren't neglecting.

But it'd be called abuse by the way they shelter and do not prepare their children for real life.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Exactly.

Kids need to understand what failure is, and what it feels like, and learn how to deal with that feeling. Between helicopter parents and electronic-babysitters, that's where the problem lies.

Stop telling them that trying is the same as winning.

a reply to: carewemust

Yep.

Rather than blaming certain people with certain mental illnesess as the problem, maybe recognize that one of the most under diagnosed mental illnesses (antisocial personality disorder aka sociopathy and psychopathy) is a major problem.

Likely due to lack of properly functioning mirror neurons which facilitate empathy...

Perhaps the Mexicans will fall in love with Trump's wall in a few years time when it keeps all those coiled springs at bay.

a reply to: Gothmog

I too remember my factory-worker Father, and teacher-assistant Mother spending time with me and my brother...quality time, several days a week.

Likewise, me and my wife spent good quality time with our two boys, who are now ages 19/21 and very well grounded.

But since I've never known a family whose child has committed suicide, perhaps there are no real warning signs? For all I know, those parents may have felt that their children were well-grounded too.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: DBCowboy

Parents have it pretty tough. Trying to make ends meet. Take a family vacation when possible. They know responsibility.

You're saying parents are so busy, they're neglecting their children?

They aren't neglecting.

But it'd be called abuse by the way they shelter and do not prepare their children for real life.

When you look at the statistics, a startling number of Children are intentionally killing themselves. I'm talking about those between ages 8 and 15. They don't need to know about "real life" yet. All they need is LOVE. Apparently, they're not getting LOVE.

a reply to: CreationBro

Maybe Empathy for others, and Personal self-regard must BOTH be present, for living a happy life.

a reply to: carewemust


I don't know what they're getting, but whatever it is, it's relatively new.

I had parents that worked also.

It's not always about quantity, but the quality of time spent. What are they doing together that is precipitating the suicides?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: carewemust


Children are being coddled and are not being prepared for life.

They have no coping skills.

They have no problem-solving skills.

So when the hard parts of life reach the sheltered youths, they are not equipped to handle it.

Our society is responsible for the deaths and suicides.

Children are the same all over the "industrialized" world however USA is the only place where young people pick up assault rifles and kill as many as possible before they get taken out.

a reply to: carewemust

What thing that is really harmful to society , is not because of mental illness???

Pedophiles, drug addicts, the homeless, rapists, murderers.. , exc, exc, exc


All have obvious mental illness..

So that is the biggest over generalization in history..


Even some cases of theft..

persons that either suicide themselves or mass-murder their peers or contemporaries do not suffer from mental illness

they do have a different worldview...but it isn't a lifestyle constraining factor that a severe & Debilitating 'Mental Illness' prognosis would be on that person...
After all the latest perp. (Master Cruz, 19-ish, expelled from school) posted on social media that the adored guns/weapons/etc. & he flaunted his prowess at killing animals... he amassed an arsenal of weapons/explosives but it just was not politically correct to PROFILE him as a Nut Job or Sinister person who behaved weird.... because he thought different than you or I do.


there's rumors that he's a self styled 'lone wolf' wanna-be ISIS terrorist


me..... jut slide another mug my way.... cheers

a reply to: DBCowboy

A lot has to do with video games I think. I've never played one, but watched my kids and their friends. They became so engrossed in killing "the enemy", that their entire feeling of life being valuable/precious would evaporate, if they stayed glued to those "games" for too many hours a week. (I hear they're even more realistic nowadays.)

originally posted by: ErrorErrorError

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: carewemust


Children are being coddled and are not being prepared for life.

They have no coping skills.

They have no problem-solving skills.

So when the hard parts of life reach the sheltered youths, they are not equipped to handle it.

Our society is responsible for the deaths and suicides.

Children are the same all over the "industrialized" world however USA is the only place where young people pick up assault rifles and kill as many as possible before they get taken out.

Bullcrap.

Unless you have something to back that up, I'd call you a liar.

Living overseas and seeing different cultures I can say that US has some serious issues in how we treat our children.