Missing man found 1 week later 2,800 miles away, disorientated & wearing same (ski gear) clothes.

originally posted by: galadofwarthethird
a reply to: violet
Nothing I merely find the act of trying to figure out how something happened on a story you hear online by using online sources as kind of hilarious. But really, he never dropped him off at the airport, I must have read or maybe assumed that. Either way, that to is hilarious.

So ya, I have no problem with it, truck away on the mysterious trucker. But hey how do you know that trucker existed in the first place? Maybe its all just word of mouth, or even the first thing that came to that guys head when he came to a little, for all you know it could be like the guy in the vid I posted earlier looking for his cat in the sewer. None existent. Or maybe it wasnt a trucker in a truck, but a minivan? Maybe it was a minivaner? And the poor guy just confused the two.

Not saying the guy may have been wasted out of his mind like the guy in that vid I posted, which by the way, there never was a cat, it never existed. But in his mind it did exist. Just saying, it could be any number of things all of which you will never get to the bottom of by word of mouth, or print would be more accurate, on the internet.

Did he mention, "Large Marge?"

Interesting story for sure!

It will be interesting to hear the final outcome...if it's ever published. Pretty good likelihood though that the truth will be far less exciting (and newsworthy) than the speculation, and the story may just fade off into the ether.

A couple of points though in response to some of the comments here:

1. Ski Patrollers would have found him / tracks - Having worked as a mountain patroller and instructor many years ago during my college years in Utah I can definitely say this is not necessarily the case. Each night we would sweep the mountain to make sure everyone was down and people were not injured. However, there are an infinite number of ways to come down a mountain. We would sweep all the trails and most of the popular out-of-bounds areas, but an exhaustive search of every single permutation someone could dream up on the mountain to get down simply wasn't possible / feasible with the remaining light late in the day like that.

2. Aliens / Drugs - Possibly (well, the drugs anyway), but there are other possibilities also. Even a minor injury, especially at altitude, coupled with even brief exposure can create some almost unbelievable situations well out beyond 'bizarre-o'! Hypothermia sets in rapidly after an injury on the mountain. It's actually pretty stunning how fast it can set in. And hypothermia can cause people to do some really crazy stuff for extended periods of time. One moment you have some pretty aggressive physical activity going on where the body temperature is elevated, and then the next, almost instantly, you have no activity at all, laying in the snow, where body temps plummet rapidly. It's the perfect recipe for hypothermia.

3. Head injury - Again, possible, but this would be relatively easy to determine, even by law enforcement personnel prior to receiving medical treatment. There would be visible damage to the helmet (not so much to the outside, but to the compressive foam lining inside)...it's how they're designed to work. In any case, A quick hospital CAT / MRI scan would absolutely reveal brain trauma. That said, even a very slight concussive hed injury coupled with hypothermia can create a semi-comatose state in minutes. So, while these statements seem to conflict, they don't really. An injury which cause a multi-day blackout would be pretty evident, whereas a lesser injury would not be as obvious, but it also wouldn't result in a multi-day event without some other contributing factor (drugs, alcohol, etc.).

4. Shelter in a truck - I guess it's possible. Hypothermia does weird stuff (as noted above), but the will to live is also pretty strong (this is why hypothermia is such an effective killer, because it distorts the will to live with euphoria). In any case, I could envision someone getting lost after an injury, suffering the early stages of hypothermia and seeking shelter in a parked vehicle...or even just by flagging down a passing vehicle for a ride. What that person might tell someone in their somewhat catatonic state would be anyone's guess. "Take me to Mars" is not out of the realm of possibilities (believe me, I've heard stranger!). "...or Sacramento, CA."

The one question I have, and the one thing I haven't seen anything address at this point is....what was he wearing on his feet when he was found?? Ski boots??

A person can easily spend 6 days in their ski clothes, but traveling across the country in a pair of ski boots is a far different matter! First, people in Iowa are absolutely gonna notice some dude clomping around at the Circle K in a pair of ski boots. They might see nut-jobs all the time dressed in a Batman suit with a helmet on...but not ski boots!

Interesting story.

a reply to: Nothin

lol...

I was just trying to give an idea to folks how possible it might be to walk that far in a week...

and it doesn't look possible

i wonder how many roads passed through his trek... did he cross paths with a-lot of roads and have the ability to catch rides with several diff vehicles ?

the article just didn't give enough info and it has left everyone with a bunch of questions

so the event is being sensationalized by giving just tidbits of info but not enough for anyone to truly know how he could of reached that far of a distance on foot. maybe they just don't have any info yet or further details to add, how convenient

now... i am catching up on the thread this morning on folks responses and the more i've read the thread and the responses i'm starting to lean toward this story being extremely embelished or fabricated story

it has gotten people talking about it indeed, but is it really true


leolady

The "ride in the big truck" is classic Alien false memory. The man obviously was "taken" for his ultra-hoser macho Canadian DNA so valued by Alien Greys.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
Good points.

Yes he was wearing ski boots.

a reply to: MrConspiracy
Yes true but I was going on him not being seen by the trucker , if say , he snuck into the cargo trailer. Being he might have said that he just went Into a truck on his own.

people saying if he had gotten so drunk he went across country without knowing and would be charged ?
charged with WHAT ! its not illegal to travel across country and you cant be charged for substance abuse AFTER the FACT .
Like so you smoke a joint ( HAVE nothing on you . walk up to a cop and say I just smoked a joint . Nothing he can not arrest you and if he makes up charges you got a nice lawsuit .
so even if this guy was a drunk or drugy Unless they found it on him nothing they could charge him with .
Odds are he had a fling and in order to cover it up once he was done PUT back on his sking stuff ( after all wlking around town for a week in sking stuff ? and NO one notices lol .

anyway then ask for help using this story .
O he may know about that other guy who DID the same thing . Now check his credit cards and how much money he has left then figer out wear he stayed .
Lord it must be aliens great logic i must say

a reply to: burgerbuddy
Who can forget Large Marge!

David Paulides just busted a nut

What’s weird about the trucker angle is a) when/where did he get on the truck, and b) assuming the trucker saw him, in ski gear and possibly injured, why would he not take him to a hospital or to the ski lodge he obviously came from?

He couldn’t have walked far enough away for someone to not be aware of a ski resort nearby, even a traveling trucker, and NOT guess that’s where this guy had come from.

Check his underwear.
The under wear don't lie after a week on the road.

originally posted by: Oldtimer2
My brother in law said when he used to drink,one day he found himself 3000 miles away in NY,who knows sounds like substance abuse

3k miles...you're gonna sober up eventually and wonder why you are on a train or whatever

very unusual case. I got nothing. My mind wants to leap to extraordinary events simply because the rational mind isn't coming up with anything...however, I'll stop before I start eyeballing the sky looking for answers.

This will be forgotten about in a day or two for most of us...and that sucks, will just file it under news of the weird I guess and move on.

originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: Oldtimer2
My brother in law said when he used to drink,one day he found himself 3000 miles away in NY,who knows sounds like substance abuse

3k miles...you're gonna sober up eventually and wonder why you are on a train or whatever

Not if you read some of the replies in this thread. Not only is it possible, it's probable that this guy had a bunch of hooch socked away just after getting off the chairlift, drank himself silly before making it back down the slope, but had the wherewithal to clandestinely hitch a ride, going unnoticed all the way to California before sobering up enough to remember to call his wife just after getting a trim. Talk about denying ignorance...

originally posted by: BeefNoMeat
a reply to: violet

My bad, I didn't mean to respond to your post. You never said "hitched a ride", but a poster above did and I thought I replied to that comment. I am with you: this trucker (alleged trucker) should cash in his 15 minutes of fame and come forward...wonder why that hasn't happened. Again, Occam's Razor: there wasn't a truck driver.

Actually, the truck driver may never come forward and admit to picking up a hitch hiker. Many carrier companies have policies against their drivers taking this risk and liability. He may feel 15 minutes of fame is not worth losing his job over.

I'm going with the head injury theory. They haven't really given out much in the way of details, aside that he was headed back home from Sacramento.

Maybe more info will be released on this soon, but I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't mention head injury for privacy or other reasons (assuming that's what happened)

originally posted by: CynConcepts

originally posted by: BeefNoMeat
a reply to: violet

My bad, I didn't mean to respond to your post. You never said "hitched a ride", but a poster above did and I thought I replied to that comment. I am with you: this trucker (alleged trucker) should cash in his 15 minutes of fame and come forward...wonder why that hasn't happened. Again, Occam's Razor: there wasn't a truck driver.

Actually, the truck driver may never come forward and admit to picking up a hitch hiker. Many carrier companies have policies against their drivers taking this risk and liability. He may feel 15 minutes of fame is not worth losing his job over.

Actually, that barely makes sense. Truck driver knows it's against company policy, but, instead of following the policy, they pick up a disoriented/delusional/incapacitated/whatever man in New York, compromising their employment to haul him clear across the country without bothering to render him any medical help...just gonna drop him off and give no f%cks except for keeping quiet? Yeah, no.

ETA: They had been making this annual ski trip for 20 years...there was a good deal of time for this guy to plan this out. Maybe it was a head injury and he somehow stumbled upon truck driver/good samaritan/whatever one after another and they all fear reprisal and are keeping quiet...much more likely he planned this, paid someone to haul him, realized he had pulled it off, and for whatever reason he got cold feet and is covering his ass with a cock-eyed story that will soon fall apart. Because the authorities have already asked anyone and everyone to speak up -- I am willing to bet dollars to donuts that if he hitched a ride and a trucker is positive he was the 'missing' man he was carrying, his employers would be crucified by the public for firing a driver who was publically being asked to come forward to help resolve this matter. The friggin Dept of Homeland Security expended resources looking for him. Moreover, it could've been an independent trucker -- whose policy is being violated in that case?

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: Athetos

Having gone through it myself after a head injury, I think it's likely he may never remember details. I remember only bits and pieces of maybe ten days.

I have a rather different experience . A few weeks ago I went for a nightly walk, and when I walked through an empty and icy inustrial area I suddenly found my self in a crowded place that appeared to be a big city street, wondering how the f..... I got there. It lasted only a few minutes before I got back, still walking in the right direction. I dont remember falling, but I noticed that I had a slightly sore hip and after checking my head I discovered a sore point on the same side.

I did not suffer any headache or other symptoms from the fall, only that short shift in consciousness to somewhere that must have been in another part of the world.

a reply to: BeefNoMeat

I don't get it are you saying that those who go missing in a certain place and spot and are never found again, may be in the same spot and place were they went missing at? Hows that for logstic and grammatics?

a reply to: burgerbuddy

It was probably aliens. Though it wasn't the guy who was wasted out of his mind, it was the aliens who were wasted and high as a space kite. Generally aliens don't abduct humans, there is no need what so ever, you can look up anything about them in any general database and then some, from populations to genome structure to past and future to even when we will go extinct, its all there.

Unless there wasted and high and farther gone then MACS0647-JD, then all kinds of shenanigans happen, and abductions happen.