24 More Pentagon UFO Videos To Be Released.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear


We are a plasma body and the flow of blood etc moving through it generates an electricity that can continuously power 20watt light bulb... now if we channel that energy in focus instead of disperse it; it comes to a singularity and well wave form changes from the scattered alpha and beta into gamma. There's the radiation business... however meaning no harm in body speech or mind? Not hateful, greedy or delusional as experience arises and passes; then that radiation or vibration does not harm any others that is the same or in varying degrees of such... however others grasping and clinging in body speech and mind to to any of those in hate, greed or delusion then the radiation becomes harmful and yet they bring their own illusions to the mountain top valleys ocean trenches etc. and dream what they are attached too and what they have not released becomes the lesson.

What the form takes? Variable as such a state is the unconditioned... the unconditioned state manifests as any and all of that in response to others as a being... and in such a manner it is all real and not simultaneously, depending on the grasping individual or as a group makes no difference when hate is hate greed is greed the things and objects and people are the variable that makes the individual... so those attached to ufo see ufo those attached to ghost see ghost the attachment paints the image to the eyes from the mind in expected waveforms as a reality... the waveforms they cant handle as reality are blank spots or void spots left in the unconscious until they evolve or adapt out of that... or else it is groundhog day where they repeat the same things in various ways of manifestation until they see beyond the electron paint on their screens of consciousness.

That is how formation already "known" or present works... cease putting out so much energy in diffusion on those other wave lengths and the others become known, then "time" and space warps around it naturally as that is it's nature of being. Awareness being individual doesnt matter how many are involved even f they believe or hold onto the same concepts... they will still see and experience what they want to see.

a reply to: mirageman

It's a fair question.

All I can say, is that in the 5 or so hours I talked to him in person,
sitting on my couch, he had every opportunity to lie, or to shade
the truth, and he never did.

In the 5 years that I've been emailing him...he's never once lied
that I can ascertain.

He says "I don't know" quite frequently.

Now.. is he getting a little 'influenced' about some nonsense
at this late stage of his life?

I really hope not.

And if he's making crazy statements about tiny bits of slag
or is now being pushed to be a bit overly "open minded"
about nonsense - like "implants" --- then I am sad.

But I still maintain.. he's a very honest man.. he doesn't
just jump to conclusions.. he's an actual scientist.

I really hope that isn't changing.

as for this question:

"we don't even know if Vallée is involved with DeLonge's boys do we"

here's all that I can say about that..

When I talk to JV, I don't bring up things which might be classified,
or under NDA, so that there's a chance he will respond.

I would never say (there's an untellable story here) "Are you with those TTSA guys"?

But what I would say..

"The Antenna project.. have you considered ... thus and so"

he then responded that he was in charge of the data analysis
for that project.

So I suppose he could be doing his "own" "antenna project".. but
how many of those could there be?

Also, he wrote a forward with Peter Lavenda for one of the books..
that really puts him close to that crew as well.

If I get into "his business" I won't get an answer.. if I talk science..
I get an answer.

I don't approve of everything that he gets involved with.. but i'm
not his mother.. and I'm sure he doesn't approve of how far I take
the "supranatural" and things I say on the Internet.. but he's
not my mother either.

He's always been very respectful to me, and I will always be
very respectful of him.

Does that answer your question satisfactorily?

Kev

a reply to: BEBOG

you speak accurately about the need to keep the pond still.

It's hard to get the science right.. on these topics.. there is
so much that we don't know.

there is much merit to the "cold plasma" model or the bioplasma
model.. if you are very careful not to "corrupt the pond".

But there is also much merit in the "everything is information"
model.. that's the most cutting edge model that is being worked
on.

And while doing that sort of research..

be kind.. be loving..

and the most loving thing of all.. is to be confrontational..

with yourself and with anyone who is trying to lie to you
or to themselves.

or it's also ok to just be silent.. nobody appointed us to
go around saving people..

wow what a lesson that one turned out to be.

The Universe doesn't need anything.. even though us
little branches of the big tree can certainly view it that
way from time to time.

yes suffering is real.. and it will always be with us..
yes.. giving hugs is wonderful.. and will always be with
us.

Maybe 20 years ago.. my favorite saying was "Broken by
Design". If things aren't broken, there is only stillness..
nothing exists. All this crap is necessary.. no matter
how horrific it can get.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear


Much of what you say is true and the paint from my experience turns into memories to absorb them into meaning and not just rote concepts but shared experience and yes the good parts of it are better than the suffering parts of it, and making things into meaning means those that do and are genuine will be there during the suffering parts so there is a balance...

The knowledge model was reffered to as the deva realm at one time; and is said to last a lot longer than the others below it but not aware of being below it same as deva not aware of what is above it... but it means a bit more time to mentally flap those wings about until all doubt is lost.

The relation I had was last visit to my monastary was a nothing further we can teach you; and the head monk saying why not go to Zen seeing how quiet my mind is... lol he said cut off all past so I stopped talking and then it was how many jhanna states can you keep up with and then seeing my abbots face reflect in his after the abbot said he'll be back soon he's going through hell I felt better... knowing my abbots face reflected in the head monks as he is getting up there to where passing it and the lineage on draws ever near.

I think in some places that just how it goes; no one to take the mantle or those not worthy of it then fighting over it... so if something occurs down the road as that at the temple. It'll be my duty to say whos face reflected grandpas true face before he left in that zen fashion. At one time one had to reach the level of Arhat to leave the monastery to be a lay follower... but culture has changed much sense then with all of that "knowledge".

Of course as an intelligence or consciousness there are parts that are restless and well such stuff as found all over keeps them occupied and fulfilled at least for now... and if not it is our duty to give them the "finger" as you said... either they get the point or take offence.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

From your own point of view that speaks volumes. I understand your personal trust. He's also allowed some slack because he's not like the UFOtainment crowd we could mention who push an alien agenda to keep you listening, reading and buying their products.

But that interview, precedes the To the Stars launch, and he speaks of metallic trace evidence from 1947 and even 1957. That suggests to me that he's also being played or part of the deception.

To quote a famous Blink182 lyric could you be?

The unsuspecting victim of darkness in the Vallée
We can live like Jack and Sally if we want....

a reply to: BEBOG

I've never studied Buddhsim.

It seems similar in some way to the Yoga Sutras
of Patanjali. Not that I have studied that either.

But my head seems to know it. My heart seems to know it.
It is a delightful dip in a cool stream, that while moving
has no movement.

But why don't we keep such discussions in your post?

Not in a "UFO" thread.

I'd love to hear more about your world.

a reply to: mirageman

I suspect that he means "potential trace evidence".

But I am accused of being a JV apologetic as it is.

I can tell you, that it seems to irritate him, how nebulous
all this stuff is.

From my perspective he doesn't seem to understand the
significance of the Higgs Boson - that a ghost could be
solid by flipping one constant just a bit...

he is convinced that there is something solid there..
but there isn't.. except in that one sense..

I suppose that the V'vorne death fleet of nuts and bolts
craft could erupt out of a techno-death-portal tomorrow and
then I'd be the fool blushing.

But the evidence does not point in that direction.

a reply to: mirageman

Oh btw.. (your attempt, your failed attempt at humor ignored),

It's very possible that I might know more about "JV's theory" than JV.

or at least I think that I might.

The point being, I am not deluded by anything he has to say, if he turns
out to be incorrect or being played.

I think that he's received far more from my contributions to him,

than all of his books combined have contributed to me.

Gosh, I'm sure that sounds arrogant.. but it's simply factual.

Now.. the question you should be asking.. is whether I'm playing
you and others.

I want you to be asking that. It's healthy.

But I'm not selling you anything. I'm not trying to get you to do
anything.. except I did ask you to research BTUFO more than
you have.. I'd love for someone to work with me on that.

so I have nothing to gain by sharing my opinions.. other than
the pleasure of company and mutual discovery.

but I SUPPOSE I could be some evil government plant! If so,
the pay is really rotten ($0.00 dollars) when I want a million.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

I'm pushing you and you know it!

What I am saying is that JV has influence. But perhaps sometimes he has been influenced himself. So he deserves to be scrutinised as much as anyone else in the field.

I just have a bad feeling about this whole "To the Stars Project" like it's some sort of promotion for how great the US intel and military boys really are.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Thanks for that Kev, very insightful!

Regarding Kundalini, it occurs to me that if they were serious about identifying the phenomena they would have asked you for an fMRI to see your antenna.

Under normal circumstances I'd simple say that they weren't aware of you. I'd expect an intuitive (if they work) to have picked you up!

In all seriousness though, why wouldn't Jacques want to test the physiological changes of your experiences and likely antenna?

It's never occurred to me before - but it would seem incredibly lax for them to have not considered you.

a reply to: ctj83

I haven't a clue.

I don't take it personally though.

It's their loss.

Or i'm really stark raving mad and they just don't have
the heart to tell me that.

Either explanation works for me.

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

I'm pushing you and you know it!

What I am saying is that JV has influence. But perhaps sometimes he has been influenced himself. So he deserves to be scrutinised as much as anyone else in the field.

I just have a bad feeling about this whole "To the Stars Project" like it's some sort of promotion for how great the US intel and military boys really are.

I wouldn't worry.

It's funded by a hotdog stand.
It has Democratic earmarked congressional slush money behind it..

what with Trump and all.. I hope they cashed that check for $22
million dollars and hid the money overseas! It might bounce
otherwise.

Despite all the noise.. I don't expect anything to come of this..

Kev

So where are these videos? Come on, shadowy cartel of intel spooks! Entertain me!

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear



Since this is a global forum more than you read the post even though it is in reply to you, I replied in line with what yourself and another poster was speaking of to further that discussion. The rest was the personal hello business after your reply...

The UFO I speak of is not the man made attempt at duplication of the phenomena... but the actual phenomena. The vimana business... if you command your temple which vimana being part of that such when put to structural form as a representation... then the resultant gamma waves one produces are the catelyst for those things to arise and pass in experience.

It is a natural phenomena as there is absolutely nothing un-natural... lol man made still uses natures materials. Conglomerating them in a process... the cosmic furnace does the same thing. Naming all of it does not change what it is except by appearances... to the ancients UFO was a vimana or the temple of being and temples where built to reflect that... to others not attached to UFO it becomes ghost, bigfoot or even gods devils or whatever.

Same phenomenal state just giving rise to variious phenomena based on the individuals attachment to the concepts are cause for whatever shape or form the phenmena arises in... as the phenomena is unconditioned except when the conditioned come into contact with it and then their mind projects that conditioned and thats what they experience... yet the unconditioned remains untouched or unconditioned as the arising phenomena is not anything but the illusion they are projecting and folling themselves with in being attached to it.

That's all... and nothing wrong with making fields of study etc. like children saying hey wanna go play ninja with some sticks? For all intents and purposes? They are ninjas... dinner time and or it is getting dark is the only thing that breaks the spell and ninja reality ceases.

So we can take that phenomena build a ton of concepts and then make sticks into actual swords... however what is the benefit if it takes food off the table in order to accomplish such a thing... when the excuse is yeah but it puts food on MY table?

Sphere of influences large or small are still influences... as things go 'round.

a reply to: BEBOG

Ah. Very nice.

I've been saying the same thing for some time on these forums.

I suppose I will bring up a point that might be seen as disagreeing,
but it's not.

There is nothing wrong with investigating delusion; in fact that is
our duty!

Our entire USA culture is being PARTIALLY held captive by this
"UFO" and even worse "Ancient Aliens nonsense".

If "Buddha" were here, he'd be a UFO investigator!

(don't go too too far, or too worshipfully with that comment pls).

If the people are being held prisoner, by a harmful hypnosis
(UFO and UFOlogy) I anyway, consider it "holy" to dispel
that "evil" hypnosis.

Now that does bring up a very interesting point.

Being in the "Kali Yuga" like we are.. hardly anyone is willing
to take the relatively easy steps to follow in the footsteps of
an "enlightenment tradition".

They would rather drink beer, watch porn, and scream at
the democrats how Hillary had an illegal email server,
and that is the TRUE CAUSE OF ALL EVIL IN THE WORLD.

In a manner of speaking, this UFO stuff, at a level behind
even the Huckster, the chuckel-heads, the Collins Elite..

behind all of it..

"UFOs" are of benefit in this "age of Kali Yuga".

In a manner of speaking, it will lead to the Buddha.

After many gyrations of BS and particle physics.

(that Buddha phrase is a metaphor..).

Now.. I must advise you.. that use of the word Vimana
will confuse most people..

It will make them think about the Ancient Aliens show..
not an arcane Buddhist reference.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Seems like a mistake to me not to explore such options. Their loss not yours!

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear


Ha I dont worship anything... I show due respect and the representation of the buddha as a silent reminder sitting for thousands of years with eyes half open and shut to both worlds inner and outer smiling at both equally is only a reminder of how I got in those same foot steps to equal realization... the same can be said following any path, there is an end to all of them and yet a you keeps on going as phenomena roll on... attached or not, they are there arising and passing but not as the old usual where one has grasped one simply has ceased too... those still grasping are the not self, if they bring suffering and attachment with them... they also carry it away, any point I or another makes to ease that burden comes to fruition when it is ripe to do so otherwise they will continue to plow along and that seed plants later then ah ha they get it and can move on.

When it is a matter of time it exists and matter forms to make sure of it... when time is no matter; no mind and all is burnt up with nothing to enflame. Then there is just peace among or despite all the clamor... in loving kindness and empathy the same showed to you in that journey is also passed along to all others just the same or else the lesson was missed.

a reply to: BEBOG

Well said.

"Mikey, I think he likes it!"

You can google that one if you want.

You really should discuss Vimana and materialization for the thread however.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear


It is the "crown" of realization when one draws all that energy back into the singularity then the absolute of selfhood presents itself, and all else is impermanent, not self, and suffering when attached to it. So drawing all that focus and energy back is like a sun going hey not going to radiate any longer fuel done gone over no more logs.

So then poof either black hole or white dwarf... both have a draw then not a scatter of energy. One has condensed all light to a single point the size of a golf ball instead of something massive. The other the black hole takes longer or is the sucking all that energy back into it. Planets that used to orbit are like habits... those crushed they cant reform...

Of course that is the macrocosmic reflection of what occurs, the microcosm is the illusion or dream shared as concepts to all of this infinite phenomena... in constant contact, the Atoms on Pluto are touching your nose right now the thing that says no is the concept of all of that held between them.

Close your eyes and look, most say it's just dark look closer... looks like a field of space the same as going outside to look. We've got concepts there needlessly big dipper ursa minor and stories to go with them, however those points are not what they appear off of this planet that view changes they just dont line up or form those constellations any more because the angular geometry has changed as view point.

In realizing that all the constellation concepts are void or useless, and yet as a cute thing to tell each other not. how are they useless... it chops the tree of wonder down it gives it a place so it can be ignored because hey it is known... meaning it has put a chain or shackle of knowledge on ones neck. shedding that chain allows more to be known understood and learned... learning is not the known thats vomit. not food fit to eat a second time. knowledge is the new the unknown it lifts more ignorance and yet places yet another chain at the same time.

so hey it is a double edged sword if you cant "handle" it dont pick it up as it cuts on the rest if it.

we mimic a lot of nature and call it ours like we are special; hah animals are dumb they cant calculous... animals are like no thanks thats just stress needlessly placed on you for more concept bubbles and vomit eating like you know something. Copying nature to our advantage in a different form with the same function, thats all we have done and continue to do and call it science.

So in a sense like the sword we are both the cure and the disease at the same time...

Sorry to have failed your task, and just blow more bubbles for others to pop

a reply to: BEBOG

you did just fine.

People are so afraid of the terminus point, where all Universes cease to exist
for a moment. But the water's just fine, good for a swim.

Everybody gets to use the diving board.

Kev