My personal story.......

First of all. A few weeks ago I already posted some pictures of ghosts. These pictures were from a girlfriend of me and were taken on her digital camera. The pictures were taken by a person called Robbert van den Broeke and is the only one able to see or take these pictures. He can also communicate with these ghosts and he is clairvoyant.

The reason that I post these pictures here is, because I want to discuss the ghosts on the pictures. I don't want to hear that the pictures are fake, because they aren't! I can asure you that. If this thread turns out to be that everyone thinks that this is fake and I am liar, it will be the last time I will ever visit this board. I post the pictures on this board because I still believe this is the right board to talk about it. For me it is clear now that these things on the picture are ghosts or at least some entities.

Because of the pictures and the story of my girlfriend I decided together with my boyfriend to visit him and to meet him in person and she gave me his telephone number. Yesterday we visited him.

My boyfriend and I had each a separate session with him. With the both of us he called names of people/ relatives from us that were deseased or even alive. The names were completely right. He told me things about myself which I already new and this all was quite a shock for me still. I remember that from the minute I walked into that house till the end of my session, but even when I was waiting during the session of my boyfriend, I felt very cold. So cold that I was shaking all the time. At times during the session I couldn't speak because my mouth was shivering because of the cold. The strangest thing was, and I realized that later, that it wasn't cold inside, because the heating was on. At the end of my session he put his hands on my head and shoulders and the cold was competely gone and I felt warm again.

When my boyfriend had his session Robbert told suddenly to him that he new that my boyfriend had a camera with him and that he wanted that Robbert took pictures of the ghosts which he saw at that moment. My boyfriend was laughing and nervous because he didn't dared to ask it, but Robbert felt it. Robbert took 2 pictures. One of 3 white balls, which are according to him are the ghosts. The other picture he took was to prove that there was nothing wrong with the lights or any things else. Here are the who pictures.





If you try to enlargen the picture with the 3 white balls you see a sort of structure in the balls. He told us that the ghosts apear different every time. Sometimes in a shape sometimes as balls. I really find this so amazing that I have no words for it. I am really interested if there are other people that have this experience. If you want to can ask me everyhing about this session but don't tell me that the picture is fake. My boyfriend could look in the closet with the glass and saw Robbert behind him and didn't saw him do anything strange then only taking the picture.

The session with Robbert was for me and my boyfriend really amazing and experience. Not only because of the pictures he took but also about the things that he told us which were all true. I checked everything that he said! This really make me believe that some people can see alot more then we think!

p.s. i see that the quality of the pictures are not well. Maybe someone knows a way to post the pictures without any lost of the quality?





[edit on 15/2/2005 by rai76]

Orbs are often said to be dust or some other camera anomalies. What I find interesting is that someone claims to see them before development of the picture.
Did this guy claim they were ghosts of Aliens, or were being dropped off by UFOs? I'm just asking because you are always posting these ghost pictures on the Aliens & UFOs board.

Its very interesting. I've only seen one myself in the town of Jefferson, Texas and I saw it with the naked eye at night. It was on the floor of an old brothel and I tried to step on, as it was night, and each time it moved before I got close to it, like it knew I was going to try and step on it. Eventually it just left.

It looked like one of those in that picture except on the ground and visible with naked eye.

[edit on 01/27/2005 by TheBigD]

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They don't really look like UFOs to me. They don't look like ghosts either, some dust, or just lens flare from the reflected camera flash.

Originally posted by Umbrax
Orbs are often said to be dust or some other camera anomalies. What I find interesting is that someone claims to see them before development of the picture.
Did this guy claim they were ghosts of Aliens, or were being dropped off by UFOs? I'm just asking because you are always posting these ghost pictures on the Aliens & UFOs board.

Like i told you last time, I didn't know were to post it else. If you have a suggestion, tell me and I will change it to another board.

Originally posted by rai76
If this thread turns out to be that everyone thinks that this is fake and I am liar, it will be the last time I will ever visit this board.

For me it is clear now that these things on the picture are ghosts or at least some entities.

Robbert took 2 pictures. One of 3 white balls, which are according to him are the ghosts. The other picture he took was to prove that there was nothing wrong with the lights or any things else. Here are the who pictures.

Probably you had good reason to back up your picture with a second pic, proving that the first one wasn't fake.

However, it is possible that three tiny dust pieces generate light flare if shot in different angle. Your camera wasn't on a tripod, it was moved for the next shot. Therefore, your backup can't be 100% for sure.

Other possibility is that you are under alien surveillance, and those white circles are alien crafts near you used for surveillance. Small enough to hide anywhere, and smart enough to collect infos from you. Personally I would rather believe that they are products of high technology, than ghosts or spirits of dead.

Conclusively, they are more to be simple light flare, which is very common in photography, and you can take search of ot just about anywhere.

And yes: I don't think you are a liar.

Here is what I recommended last time.

Originally posted by Umbrax

Originally posted by rai76
i don't know, should I post them somewere else on this board?

Paranormal Studies?

There are several ghost related threads that might interest you there as well.
I don't see why a UFO's and Aliens board would make you want post ghosts.
On the paranormal board there is a lot of orb threads also that you might want to contribute to. Posting there will get you the audience you are looking for.

I was also wondering what was the time difference between the pictures?

You are right, I already ask the admin to change my topic to paranormal studies.

About the time difference between the pictures. Not longer then a few seconds.

i like people who post pictures from cheap and dirty cameras claiming that its ghosts they captured. that joke never gets old. and to top their little farce they post in the wrong forum, have you ever tested your IQ or read a book? Maybe legalizing is not the right thing at all!?


btw. Robbert van den Broeke is a fraud, his pics and claims are as laughable as those from Billy Maier. people that say otherwise are kooks.

PS.: Goodbye, we sure wont miss you!

[edit on 15-2-2005 by feyd rautha]

Well Feyd Rautha,

These pics were taken with a canon €700 euro photo camera so if u find that cheap u sure have enough money to go entertain yourself somewhere else instead of calling people liars. I understand that people are sceptic towards it as i was before going.... the whole reason i went was to laugh at that robbert and prove it wasnt true..... I am sorry to have to admit it but it is true.... and yes on the internet one can say what he wants, but i cheked the lens before handing over the camera and he took one after one-other. Another thing, I have that camera for over a year, i have taken a million pictures with it, why did something like this never happen? I have always have had perfect pictures and if i had something with the flash on the pics at least it didnt look like those 3 white balls at all. After our visit there i took several pics with the camera again to see if it would happen again and nothing happened..... So you can say what you want and find all the explanations u want and call us liars.... but fact is that the camera is in good shape, its not a cheap one, i dont know how to use photoshop and i didnt use to believe in ghosts or ufo's.......just like u probably.... but that robbert made those pics is a fact and that he didnt mess around is another fact. So do with it what u want !!

Bye bye

Sorry but these lights are just very common photographic artefacts. I take lots of photos like this which show exactly the same thing.

[edit on 16/2/2005 by Musclor]

Originally posted by Musclor
Sorry but these lights are just very common photographic artefacts. I take lots of photos like this which show exactly the same thing.

[edit on 16/2/2005 by Musclor]

Ok, can you please provide me these pictures that you are talking about!

No problems. I'm at work right now, but i'll provide some when i'm back home.

isn't it possible that those lights are just the reflection of the camera flash? I mean at just the right angle in one it would happen, then the second picture didn't get the same angle. Just my opinion

Here are some from a soccer stadium :







Note that i don't deny your story at all. I just think that the lights on the photo are certainly photographic artefacts due to the camera flash.

Originally posted by Musclor
Here are some from a soccer stadium :







Note that i don't deny your story at all. I just think that the lights on the photo are certainly photographic artefacts due to the camera flash.

Im very sorry but your pictures seems more fake to me then all the others that I have seen. Don't know what you want to prove with this. Your light balls looks defently like they have been copied from my picture. Again, for me its not a question, whether my pictures are fake or not.

Seems like no one can be serious here and I misjugded this site. I am very sincere and try to discuss what this guy made with my camera. And the only thing you can do is giving stupid answers, that it's fake or it's a lens flair or whatever.

Ohh and feyd rautha, you are so simple that you try to think that you will score with your answer! How old are you, 10? If not, you sure act like it!

Rai, you may be interested in taking a look at this page. It has info on "false positive orbs".
I'm not calling you a faker, but I honestly don't think we are seeing ghosts in your photo.

Anathema, I understand your point. Im not able to judge every picture whether it's fake or not. I can only judge mine, because I was there and saw how he made the picture. I don't believe it was a lens flare with my picture.

I posted some other pictures a while ago from a friend a mine. The truth is, that I wasn't there when this guy took this pics with her camera, but I was there when she uploaded it to her computer and I saw the pics on her camera and nothing happend in the mean time. And her pictures are much more fritghtend then mine, because they have a face there.

Here you find the link again:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

You can say fake to me as many times as you want, but I have very good reasons to believe it's real.!

Very intriguing story and all, but these "objects" are nothing more then dust particles that caught the light at the correct angle when the picture was snapped. At the time the next picture was taken they had moved and no longer captured the light.

I do not deny the validity of your story, as a matter of fact I tend to believe it, and in the paranormal for that matter. But what was captured on this camera is nothing more than a photographic artifact. These orbs have been discounted and discredited by all of the experts as having nothing to do with the paranormal or ghosts. These "orbs" appear all the time, not because of the camera, but just because of particles floating by.

Again let me reiterate that your story is very sincere and compelling, and I really do believe it. I think you should meet with this guy again and see if you can't experience some more paranormal events. The sessions you had and his clairvoyancy are amazing, and I think you should learn all that you can. Perhaps he could even teach you? But as for these pictures, they reveal nothing at all, "orbs" are captured by millions and millions of people across the world each and every day. The sad truth is I could take multiple pictures right now and quickly capture these "orbs." As an experiment, pat your couch or chair a few times then start snapping pictures, you will see exactly what I mean.

[edit on 16-2-2005 by Ajax]