Is this new emerging superbug, hyper-resistant and hypervirulent bug behind the flu deaths?

Dear ATS Readers, Writers,

I will put up a link shortly folks, but one can't help but wonder.

I have read in several sources the last week or so about how this deadly flu wasn't a virus, per se'...and yes, some of the poor victims have been determined to die from this H3 flu, but a lot of others have shown something different to be the cause. The tests for this H3 virus were negative, in other words.

The Partner State Key Laboratory of Chirosciences at the Department of Applied Biology and Chemical Technology (ABCT) of The Hong Kong Polytechnic University (PolyU) discovered a newly emerged superbug, hyper-resistant and hypervirulent Klebsiella pneumoniae, which may cause untreatable and fatal infections in relatively healthy individuals and will pose enormous threat to human health.

Newly emerged superbug, hyper-resistant and hypervirulent Klebsiella pneumoniae discovered

Yes, I noticed this was from September of last year...but still; could it be "part of the mix" with all of these sudden flu deaths?

Another thing about this article... it does point out that messing around with "bugs" in the laboratory could easily "create" a disease that is untreatable for the most part. It is worded as it could be accidental, and not mentioned it could also easily be done on purpose.

Fooling around with mother nature... is not the wisest of choices folks when it comes to these very dangerous pathogens.

Pravdaseeker

I know two people who have died from the flu in the last few months.
I had a case that put me out of commission for about a week.
I ran a dangerously high fever for 3 days and nagging cough for about two weeks.
Nasty stuff.

Dear ATS Readers, Writers,

a reply to: skunkape23

Thanks skunkape23 for your input here...glad you pulled through with your recent illness!

Sorry that you lost 2 friends too...I have also lost a couple of friends recently, but not due to the flu..(cancer, & heart attack)

My friend in Texas told me about people getting sick all over the place down in Texas. And that it wasn't this H3 flu in a lot of cases.

I'll sure be glad when the flu season ENDS!

Pravdaseeker

Most of the time they don't even test the strains or do any real scientific analysis.

a reply to: pravdaseeker

My security software wouldn't allow the link. I did find this

When a 43-year-old female lung transplant patient arrived at the National Institutes of Health's Clinical Center in June 2011, the hospital's infection control team was on high alert. The woman carried a "superbug" resistant to all but two antibiotics, and the NIH staff wanted to keep the dangerous bacteria contained.
The patient was isolated in the intensive care unit. Staff members donned gowns and gloves before entering her room. Her nurses cared for no other patients.
When she was discharged in July to return to New York, the NIH thought these measures had worked. There were no signs that the bug — Klebsiella pneumoniae — had spread.

3-4 weeks later 4 more patients came down with it, 3 died.

Over six months and despite literal and figurative walls to stop it, the bacteria hopped to 17 patients, 11 of whom died. Six of those deaths were attributed to the superbug, NIH staff reported Wednesday in the journal Science Translational Medicine.

Listening to reports some seem to have neurological symptoms.

We aren't going to know the answer until a study is done. Hope the CDC is requiring blood and sputum clutures of all deaths

I know one person who passed away due to this 'creation from the labs of hell.'

She was only 52. In the BEST of health.

She left behind three kids and a husband of 25 years marriage.

It's nothing but genocide. Period.

Dear ATS Readers, Writers,
a reply to: liveandlearn

Thanks liveandlearn,

3-4 weeks later 4 more patients came down with it, 3 died.

Listening to reports some seem to have neurological symptoms.

Yes, looks you have read some of the same reports I have then...

Personally, I don't trust the CDC as far as I could throw them.
Scandals recently with the CDC...and FDA.. makes me real questioning on anything they say anymore.

Pravdaseeker

Dear ATS Readers, Writers,

a reply to: silo13

Thanks silo13 for your input.

I know one person who passed away due to this 'creation from the labs of hell.'

She was only 52. In the BEST of health.

She left behind three kids and a husband of 25 years marriage.

It's nothing but genocide. Period.

Absolutely heart breaking isn't it?

I have DEEP concerns over your "labs from hell" comment.... that you are "probably" right!

I can't help but think of the Deagle site stuff about the USA population dropping to less than 100 million by 2025...

Have the rotten bas***ds started the big cull? There are some incredibly evil people out there in powerful positions.

I pray it hasn't come to this, but it has in the past....WW2 for example... playing with "bugs" and turning them loose on people.

Pravdaseeker

Just eat a diverse healthy diet and pour raw honey on it.

You're welcome.

I'm wondering just how many people who died actually got the flu shot this year. Not because I think it's useless (well, it is, spitballing in the dark with a syringe every year) But rather, I suspect it rendered their immune systems weaker post-shot than the immune systems of the non-flu vaxed are.

There is something to be said for an immunity, but...a taxed immune system is a useless one under heavy sickness fire.

a reply to: skunkape23

I'm curious, did you get vaccinated?

My understanding is that this year's vaccine is only supposed to be 10% effective. However, when first getting vaccinated a person's immune system goes into overdrive to fight the disease in the vaccine. This lessens the body's ability to fight other diseases and a recent study estimates that a person receiving the vaccine will be 5 times more likely to contract another respiratory ailment in the immediate aftermath of vaccination (ie 5-7 days).

a reply to: Nyiah

My understanding is this is not required information from CDC. Isn't that interesting?

In my county they did report that the only child who died did get the flu shot.

Everyone's county health dept has these statistics you can check out

This article is interesting:

The Flu Is FAR WORSE Than We’re Being Told: Tens of Thousands of Americans Are DYING

We all know that this year’s flu season is bad. I have been pouring over numbers and reports over the past few days, and it’s actually even worse than we’re hearing about. Tens of thousands of Americans are dying. It’s now worse than the 2009 swine flu outbreak and is on track with the 2014-15 strain. And it’s not showing any signs of slowing down.

Despite this, the media is downplaying the severity of the flu and the government makes the statistics pretty difficult to find. Are they trying to avoid a panic? Do they know something we don’t?

www.theorganicprepper.com...

It's got some good graphs and charts and stuff.

I'm just getting over this flu, it's pretty nasty stuff I've had it for at least a week.

originally posted by: TobyFlenderson
a reply to: skunkape23

I'm curious, did you get vaccinated?

My understanding is that this year's vaccine is only supposed to be 10% effective. However, when first getting vaccinated a person's immune system goes into overdrive to fight the disease in the vaccine. This lessens the body's ability to fight other diseases and a recent study estimates that a person receiving the vaccine will be 5 times more likely to contract another respiratory ailment in the immediate aftermath of vaccination (ie 5-7 days).

Nope. I just took it like a man. I refuse to do the vaccine thing. If my own immune system and self care with a good diet can't handle it, then whatever will be will be.

originally posted by: skunkape23

originally posted by: TobyFlenderson
a reply to: skunkape23

I'm curious, did you get vaccinated?

My understanding is that this year's vaccine is only supposed to be 10% effective. However, when first getting vaccinated a person's immune system goes into overdrive to fight the disease in the vaccine. This lessens the body's ability to fight other diseases and a recent study estimates that a person receiving the vaccine will be 5 times more likely to contract another respiratory ailment in the immediate aftermath of vaccination (ie 5-7 days).

Nope. I just took it like a man. I refuse to do the vaccine thing. If my own immune system and self care with a good diet can't handle it, then whatever will be will be.

Yah this, exactly how I feel. Medicine is altering and creating these superbugs IMO

a reply to: silo13

I've done my study on the last flu pandemic -- the 1918 one.

Do you know the steps they went through with it?

First they thought it was a pneumonia strain everyone was dropping dead of ... you know, because people don't die of the flu. It's just the flu, and people don't die of the flu especially when they are young and healthy, like your friend in her early 50s.

But what they finally determined was that while, yes, the very old and very young were susceptible to flu like always, and some people did indeed get secondary infections like pneumonia (even drug resistant pneumonia this time around), the main killer was just a novel strain of the flu that set people's immune systems off.

People were getting killed by their own immune systems. The reaction of your immune system, particularly if you were young and healthy with a very strong immune system was so strong that it alone could kill you when added to the flu. Cytokine storms.

The disease itself was a very bad flu, but it wasn't in and of itself terribly lethal anymore than any other flu strain is.

a reply to: pravdaseeker

What they are melodramatically calling a "super bug" is not an influenza. Says so right there in your OP.

So no, it is not responsible for any flu deaths. Influenza is responsible for flu deaths. Not sure I'd be getting my health information from a site that has to make up wild stories to measure up to their name. How many outbreaks can there really be in a given day that they need an entire site to needlessly scare the # out of people?

a reply to: ketsuko


interesting stuff...

cytokine "storms"

Hope that's not the storm that's upon us.

originally posted by: tigertatzen
a reply to: pravdaseeker

What they are melodramatically calling a "super bug" is not an influenza. Says so right there in your OP.

So no, it is not responsible for any flu deaths. Influenza is responsible for flu deaths. Not sure I'd be getting my health information from a site that has to make up wild stories to measure up to their name. How many outbreaks can there really be in a given day that they need an entire site to needlessly scare the # out of people?

Actually, they are attributing secondary infection deaths to the flu if the person was found to have had the flu. Even if the flu actually did not kill them. I can see why they are doing this but do not agree that this method is right.

a reply to: ketsuko

Cheers!

The 1918 flu is exactly what I was thinking of upon reading the op.