Evidence of Collusion Was Revealed In October

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: KansasGirl

And you're obsessed about telling me I'm obsessed about telling you you're obsessed. Want to keep it going?

No, but I bet you do.

a reply to: KansasGirl

Hey, I was just following your lead.

Sounds like Manafort was literally trying to save his own hide. But why would Trump care or help him in any way?

a reply to: theantediluvian

Wasn't he pulling this crap under obama's nose?

Hey, where was Mueller? Hillary?

a reply to: theantediluvian

I'm sorry the first posts after yours obviously didn't read or appreciate what you've posted.
Manafort certainly did need to fix things in Russia. His cash cows were drying up and I do believe he tried to use the trump campaign for his own good. Wasn't it his suggestion to change the language in the republican platform regarding Russia and U.S. support for the Ukraine? I think that he made promises about sanctions. What I'm not certain of is his safety now or the safety of his family since he can no longer pay the money he owes.

a reply to: burgerbuddy

Mueller was working at a private firm and Hillary wasn't anyone in government.


Why are you bringing them up? They have absolutely zero to do with this story which is damn interesting to discuss on its own merit.
I wish it was earlier. I'm coming back tomorrow morning after I've slept.

Nice info dump.

I think its abundantly clear that anyone from any nation with money can influence a politician here. As you allude relating a tie to McCain.

Id hope that the lead in is to campaign finance reform. But not until a full spirit of reformation has swept DC.

a reply to: theantediluvian

Excellent OP. Thank you for trying to shed light on one facet of this very complex investigation.

Manafort is about as shady an operator as one could find, and his Washington DC history is long and quite interesting.

Here’s some fun facts from his deep past - note the close tie to Roger Stone...

Black, Manafort, Stone and Kelly (often simply Black, Manafort) was a lobbying firm based in Washington, D.C..

Formed in 1980, it merged with Martin B. Gold's Gold & Liebengood to form BKSH & Associates in 1996.

History
The firm was one of the first political consulting firms to work for Ronald Reagan's presidential candidacy in 1980,[1] and would later also have extensive connections to the presidential administrations of George H. W. Bush and Bill Clinton.[2]

In 1984 it was renamed to Black, Manafort, Stone and Kelly (BMSK) & associates, from Black, Manafort & Stone, after Peter G. Kelly was recruited.[3]

The firm has represented, and lobbied the US Congress on behalf of, numerous foreign governments and heads of state from both representative democracies and unelected dictatorships including Mohamed Siad Barre of Somalia, dictator Ferdinand Marcos of the Philippines,[4][5] dictator Mobutu Sese Seko of Zaire,[6] and Jonas Savimbi of Angola.

During the 1988 presidential campaign in the United States, it was disclosed that Black, Manafort retained the island nation of the Bahamas as a client at a time its leadership was being attacked for alleged ties to drug traffickers. BMSK officials insisted that they intended only to help the Bahamas obtain more United States aid for efforts to curb drug smugglers.[1]

Domestically the firm represented Bethlehem Steel and Tobacco Institute, helped elect Senators Phil Gramm, Jesse Helms, Charles McCurdy Mathias Jr., Arlen Specter, Paula Hawkins and David F. Durenberger—and worked on legislation that benefitted the firm's clients.[citation needed]

a reply to: theantediluvian

U do know Manafort was working with Democrats in Ukraine right? lol the trail always leads to democrats. hahah

a reply to: amfirst1

I would reckon that I probably know more about Manafort than anyone actively posting on ATS by now. And yes, there's ties to Democrats, in fact, I'm pretty sure I mentioned the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine and Podesta group in my 3rd or 4th post.

theconservativetreehouse.com...

Because “FISA Title I” surveillance authority against a U.S. citizen is so serious (the U.S. government is essentially calling the target a spy), only a few people are authorized to even apply for such surveillance warrants. One of the four people authorized to make such a filing is the Asst. Attorney General who is head of the National Security Division of the DOJ. That person is John P Carlin.

The same John P Carlin who, together with the FBI counterintelligence unit, hired Carter Page as an FBI Under-Cover Employee, turns around and six months later accuses Page of being a Russian Spy – because the DOJ-NSD and FBI CoIntel needed to find a legal way to spy on the Trump campaign. The 2016 FISA Title 1 surveillance of former FBI employee Carter Page became that legal way. [“The Insurance Policy”]

Carter Page was an FBI undercover employee. Your collusion proven was between the FBI, DOJ and Clinton.

ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG or stop spreading the same lie. YOUR BOY was an FBI EMPLOYEE SON!

WHAT GOD DAMNED COLLUSION!!!! The INSURANCE POLICY for election rigging collusion?

SEP 29 2016, 7:06 PM ET
Hackers Target Election Systems in 20 States
by CYNTHIA MCFADDEN, WILLIAM ARKIN, JOSH MEYER and KEN DILANIAN

There have been hacking attempts on election systems in more than 20 states — far more than had been previously acknowledged — a senior Department of Homeland Security official told NBC News on Thursday.

The "attempted intrusions" targeted online systems like registration databases, and not the actual voting or tabulation machines that will be used on Election Day and are not tied to the Internet.

The DHS official described much of the activity as “people poking at the systems to see if they are vulnerable.”

"At the least, this effort is intended to sow doubt about the security of our election and may well be intended to influence the outcomes of the election — we can see no other rationale for the behavior of the Russians," Sen. Dianne Feinstein and Rep. Adam Schiff, both D-Calif., said in a statement.

Related: Russians Hacked Two U.S. Voter Databases, Officials Say

www.nbcnews.com...

a reply to: theantediluvian

Paul Manafort was a double agent working for US intelligence. You do a lot of good research but the truth is just below the surface of what you are researching. Redirect your critical thinking and you will see an entirely different picture come together.