Ever wondered why

My Journey started with a simple question as to a non technical reason as to why was a rib bone used to create the Biblical Eve. I received the following

“The rib, in particular, represents an anatomic type of long bone with a wide, spongious component rich in hematopoietic bone marrow, containing multipotent, pluripotent, and unipotent stem cells [ 3]. Oh and Totipotent in bone marrow. As with the making of new life from Adam's rib, new tissues and organs are now being made in both experimental and clinical work by using hematopoietic bone marrow from cell cultures.We also have Mesenchymal stem cells found deep within the marrow. There are many reasons as to why the Rib bone was used”


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So if anybody else has ever wondered as to why Ninhursag or “god” used a rib bone in their questions, well I couldn’t have said it better myself. Don’t ask me what any of the terms used above mean as Im still trying to work it out. Anyone know anything about Ribs.
In the meantime, Im going to have a beer a smoke and a listen to this
www.youtube.com...
It might make sence one day

a reply to: DpatC

Seems the Bible is telling us things. But let's act like we don't hear them.

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: DpatC

Seems the Bible is telling us things. But let's act like we don't hear them.

Yes it is and I think every religion that has arisen in the name of the Bible are more or less gatekeepers to prevent people from discovering what it really says.

IMO the best thing you can do is lock yourself up in a room and read it yourself with no commentaries, no computers, no tapes, nothing just read it and pray and ask God for understanding.

originally posted by: DpatC
So if anybody else has ever wondered as to why Ninhursag or “god” used a rib bone in their questions, well I couldn’t have said it better myself. Don’t ask me what any of the terms used above mean as Im still trying to work it out. Anyone know anything about Ribs.

I had to look up Ninhursag and it's kind of interesting.
The reason for the rib story could potentially just be a mistranslation from plagiarising the Sumerian texts.

www.gatewaystobabylon.com...

If we look at the Sumerian myth, we see that when Enki gets ill, cursed by Ninhursag, one of his body parts that start dying is the rib. The Sumerian word for rib is ‘ti’ . To heal each o Enki’s dying body parts, Ninhursag gives birth to eight goddesses. The goddess created for the healing of Enki’s rib is called ‘Nin-ti’, ‘the lady of the rib’. But the Sumerian word ‘ti’ also means ‘to make live’. The name ‘Nin-ti’ may therefore mean ‘the lady who makes live’ as well as ‘the lady of the rib’. Thus, a very ancient literary pun was carried over and perpetuated in the Bible, but without its original meaning, because the Hebrew word for ‘rib’ and that for ‘who makes live’ have nothing in common.

Seasonal may be correct here.
The bible is telling us that it's a mistranslated plagiarism of previous myths.
Unfortunately many will act like they don't hear it.

a reply to: SkeptiSchism

Reading the Bible is very very difficult read. And we are also depending on other men who decided what is in and what is out of it.
This leads me to question what and why are things left out.


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a reply to: DpatC

The word "rib" in the Hebrew text is "Tsela", and Strong's Dictionary numbers it # 6763, from the prime root, # 6760; "to curve". 

Perhaps they weren't talking about a rib in the first place. Perhaps there was simply no word for DNA or chromosome.

originally posted by: SkeptiSchism

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: DpatC

Seems the Bible is telling us things. But let's act like we don't hear them.

Yes it is and I think every religion that has arisen in the name of the Bible are more or less gatekeepers to prevent people from discovering what it really says.

IMO the best thing you can do is lock yourself up in a room and read it yourself with no commentaries, no computers, no tapes, nothing just read it and pray and ask God for understanding.

I'd disagree.

1. Read the Bible.

2. Ask for God to grant understanding.

3. Read every commentary on the Bible. Wrestle with opposing concepts.

4. Try and get the best dictionaries of Biblical languages so you can identify the intended meanings.

5. Consider the original intended audience to whom any scripture would have been first addressed.

6. Get a book or listing of alleged Biblical discrepancies so that you can cross-check and tunnel in on to any contentious meaning and can see if there are actual discrepancies or if your initial assumed interpretation was the problem.

7. Do not assume concepts or wordings that are not in the original texts.

8. Look for alternate interpretations and try and discern why those alternate interpretations exist.

9. Names are important and often have deeper meaning encoded within them but it is wisest to treat all other wording at face value.

10. Hebrew poetry primarily revolves around similarities of concepts (usually these couplets of concepts and their antithesis are presented together) rather than similarities in spoken sounds.

11. The Bible uses metaphor and/or simile. If it says that something is 'like' something else, you can be pretty sure they are using it. If it is in a song or poem, you can be pretty sure they are using it. Some turns of phrase are cultural and some have to do with rhyme, sonance or types (in the sense of paradigms).

12. Learn as much as you can, if you are uninformed, all you have is an opinion.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: SkeptiSchism

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: DpatC

Seems the Bible is telling us things. But let's act like we don't hear them.

Yes it is and I think every religion that has arisen in the name of the Bible are more or less gatekeepers to prevent people from discovering what it really says.

IMO the best thing you can do is lock yourself up in a room and read it yourself with no commentaries, no computers, no tapes, nothing just read it and pray and ask God for understanding.

I'd disagree.

1. Read the Bible.

2. Ask for God to grant understanding.

3. Read every commentary on the Bible. Wrestle with opposing concepts.

4. Try and get the best dictionaries of Biblical languages so you can identify the intended meanings.

5. Consider the original intended audience to whom any scripture would have been first addressed.

6. Get a book or listing of alleged Biblical discrepancies so that you can cross-check and tunnel in on to any contentious meaning and can see if there are actual discrepancies or if your initial assumed interpretation was the problem.

7. Do not assume concepts or wordings that are not in the original texts.

8. Look for alternate interpretations and try and discern why those alternate interpretations exist.

9. Names are important and often have deeper meaning encoded within them but it is wisest to treat all other wording at face value.

10. Hebrew poetry primarily revolves around similarities of concepts (usually these couplets of concepts and their antithesis are presented together) rather than similarities in spoken sounds.

11. The Bible uses metaphor and/or simile. If it says that something is 'like' something else, you can be pretty sure they are using it. If it is in a song or poem, you can be pretty sure they are using it. Some turns of phrase are cultural and some have to do with rhyme, sonance or types (in the sense of paradigms).

12. Learn as much as you can, if you are uninformed, all you have is an opinion.

2 Timothy 3:7 - Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: SkeptiSchism

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: DpatC

Seems the Bible is telling us things. But let's act like we don't hear them.

Yes it is and I think every religion that has arisen in the name of the Bible are more or less gatekeepers to prevent people from discovering what it really says.

IMO the best thing you can do is lock yourself up in a room and read it yourself with no commentaries, no computers, no tapes, nothing just read it and pray and ask God for understanding.

I'd disagree.

1. Read the Bible.

2. Ask for God to grant understanding.

3. Read every commentary on the Bible. Wrestle with opposing concepts.

4. Try and get the best dictionaries of Biblical languages so you can identify the intended meanings.

5. Consider the original intended audience to whom any scripture would have been first addressed.

6. Get a book or listing of alleged Biblical discrepancies so that you can cross-check and tunnel in on to any contentious meaning and can see if there are actual discrepancies or if your initial assumed interpretation was the problem.

7. Do not assume concepts or wordings that are not in the original texts.

8. Look for alternate interpretations and try and discern why those alternate interpretations exist.

9. Names are important and often have deeper meaning encoded within them but it is wisest to treat all other wording at face value.

10. Hebrew poetry primarily revolves around similarities of concepts (usually these couplets of concepts and their antithesis are presented together) rather than similarities in spoken sounds.

11. The Bible uses metaphor and/or simile. If it says that something is 'like' something else, you can be pretty sure they are using it. If it is in a song or poem, you can be pretty sure they are using it. Some turns of phrase are cultural and some have to do with rhyme, sonance or types (in the sense of paradigms).

12. Learn as much as you can, if you are uninformed, all you have is an opinion.

Ha well I did that for 3 years in Seminary and spent tens of thousands of dollars and ended up going back to the Word.

originally posted by: SkeptiSchism

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: SkeptiSchism

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: DpatC

Seems the Bible is telling us things. But let's act like we don't hear them.

Yes it is and I think every religion that has arisen in the name of the Bible are more or less gatekeepers to prevent people from discovering what it really says.

IMO the best thing you can do is lock yourself up in a room and read it yourself with no commentaries, no computers, no tapes, nothing just read it and pray and ask God for understanding.

I'd disagree.

1. Read the Bible.

2. Ask for God to grant understanding.

3. Read every commentary on the Bible. Wrestle with opposing concepts.

4. Try and get the best dictionaries of Biblical languages so you can identify the intended meanings.

5. Consider the original intended audience to whom any scripture would have been first addressed.

6. Get a book or listing of alleged Biblical discrepancies so that you can cross-check and tunnel in on to any contentious meaning and can see if there are actual discrepancies or if your initial assumed interpretation was the problem.

7. Do not assume concepts or wordings that are not in the original texts.

8. Look for alternate interpretations and try and discern why those alternate interpretations exist.

9. Names are important and often have deeper meaning encoded within them but it is wisest to treat all other wording at face value.

10. Hebrew poetry primarily revolves around similarities of concepts (usually these couplets of concepts and their antithesis are presented together) rather than similarities in spoken sounds.

11. The Bible uses metaphor and/or simile. If it says that something is 'like' something else, you can be pretty sure they are using it. If it is in a song or poem, you can be pretty sure they are using it. Some turns of phrase are cultural and some have to do with rhyme, sonance or types (in the sense of paradigms).

12. Learn as much as you can, if you are uninformed, all you have is an opinion.

Ha well I did that for 3 years in Seminary and spent tens of thousands of dollars and ended up going back to the Word.

That's still learning.

a reply to: chr0naut

Yes but I wasted tens of thousands of dollars.

/rimshot

originally posted by: TruthJava

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: SkeptiSchism

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: DpatC

Seems the Bible is telling us things. But let's act like we don't hear them.

Yes it is and I think every religion that has arisen in the name of the Bible are more or less gatekeepers to prevent people from discovering what it really says.

IMO the best thing you can do is lock yourself up in a room and read it yourself with no commentaries, no computers, no tapes, nothing just read it and pray and ask God for understanding.

I'd disagree.

1. Read the Bible.

2. Ask for God to grant understanding.

3. Read every commentary on the Bible. Wrestle with opposing concepts.

4. Try and get the best dictionaries of Biblical languages so you can identify the intended meanings.

5. Consider the original intended audience to whom any scripture would have been first addressed.

6. Get a book or listing of alleged Biblical discrepancies so that you can cross-check and tunnel in on to any contentious meaning and can see if there are actual discrepancies or if your initial assumed interpretation was the problem.

7. Do not assume concepts or wordings that are not in the original texts.

8. Look for alternate interpretations and try and discern why those alternate interpretations exist.

9. Names are important and often have deeper meaning encoded within them but it is wisest to treat all other wording at face value.

10. Hebrew poetry primarily revolves around similarities of concepts (usually these couplets of concepts and their antithesis are presented together) rather than similarities in spoken sounds.

11. The Bible uses metaphor and/or simile. If it says that something is 'like' something else, you can be pretty sure they are using it. If it is in a song or poem, you can be pretty sure they are using it. Some turns of phrase are cultural and some have to do with rhyme, sonance or types (in the sense of paradigms).

12. Learn as much as you can, if you are uninformed, all you have is an opinion.

2 Timothy 3:7 - Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

This passage is talking about women who, "are weighed down with sins and led astray by various passions".

Context.

originally posted by: SkeptiSchism
a reply to: chr0naut

Yes but I wasted tens of thousands of dollars.

/rimshot

Well, if you thought you'd end up knowing the secrets of the universe, you did.

Waa, waa, waah...

and

Budoom-tish!

(Thank you ladies and gentlemen, you've been a lovely audience, I'll be here all next week...).

originally posted by: SkeptiSchism

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: DpatC

Seems the Bible is telling us things. But let's act like we don't hear them.

Yes it is and I think every religion that has arisen in the name of the Bible are more or less gatekeepers to prevent people from discovering what it really says.

IMO the best thing you can do is lock yourself up in a room and read it yourself with no commentaries, no computers, no tapes, nothing just read it and pray and ask God for understanding.

But thats the complete opposite of what the bible teaches
Get trusted and learned friends and share your ideas

Dont go to the religious leaders, dont rely on people you dont know.
Christianity is about community and people sharing

Reemember, education arose from people desiring to read the bible.

It doesn't say "rib", it says "side", and the deep meaning is that "tzela" (side) is related to "tzelem" (image, i.e. made in the Image of God). Every bone has marrow. This is what happens when you reject the traditions of the Church and "lock yourself in a room and try to interpret the Bible yourself" using the NKJV, deluding yourself that unclean spirits are the Holy Spirit. The KJV was written by Protestants using deliberate mistranslations to support Protestant doctrine. There is no such thing as translation without interpretation. Use the interlinear Bible and commentaries on biblehub.com if you actually want to get anywhere.

Heresy: That special moment when you know more about the New Testament than the people who received the Holy Spirit to write and compile it. That special moment when you know more about the Old Testament than the Pharisees Jesus told you to listen to who received traditions how to interpret it from the prophets who wrote it.

originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
a reply to: DpatC

The word "rib" in the Hebrew text is "Tsela", and Strong's Dictionary numbers it # 6763, from the prime root, # 6760; "to curve". 

Good call. If you look at a concordance, this word is used primarily to describe sides or margins (Tsela), particularly the ark of the covenant (Exodus 25-26) or Solomon's temple (1 Kings 7:3)

Also interesting to note that John the Baptist said God could make children of Abraham out of rocks... I would bet bones with organic DNA would be even easier to make a human from. Not that it would be a difficulty for God.

originally posted by: SarMegahhikkitha
It doesn't say "rib", it says "side", and the deep meaning is that "tzela" (side) is related to "tzelem" (image, i.e. made in the Image of God).

As if to say, God took the opposite side of the Image and made the female physical counterpart of it. Especially considering the image is both male and female (Gen 1:27)

If I'm not wrong the Aramaic word used in the bible means side. So if we use the word side literally, then God split Adam by half.

Interesting enough:
Genesis chapter 1 - says that God created Man, in His image and likeness. (He created Man both male and female)
Genesis chapter 2 - says God made Man from the ground.
Genesis chapter 5 - says God created Man, male and female and called them Adam.

a reply to: DpatC

S/F

The word translated rib in Genesis 3 is Tsela, its lexical description explains it as a chamber. Thus, Heb. Tsela is identical with Lat. Cella and Eng. Cell. God took a cell out of Adam and constructed Eve from it, and then God closed up Adam's vagina, that's what the Hebrew text seems to say anyway.

Adam was androgynous. But since he was without knowledge. He could not see it.
He only saw the rest of nature. male and female in all other animals.
That is why he was perfect. He was created in the image of God. Able to conceive by himself/herself.

a reply to: Abednego

Well said! Angelic beings are androgynous, and Adam was created as a mirror image of his father (aka LORD God), a clone if you like. He had both a penis and a vagina when he was created. After God put him under narcosis, god made him male, he closed up his vagina and built his split image, Eve as female.