So, a peer reviewed journal article stating...

originally posted by: coomba98
a reply to: Raggedyman

So in other words I win!!

YYYYYAAAAAYYYYY WOOT WOOT!!! (Pelvis thrusting)

Master Coomba

Yeah you win, precisely why you are not worth an answer

So anybody else got a journal article stating evolution is a proven scientific fact as per the opening post

Please, star wars doesn't count, they are not journal articles irrespective how old you are

a reply to: Raggedyman

Thanks for confirming i win. Woot woot!!

But then why refuse to answer my question then ask the same question to other's?

Semantics man semantics. But you wouldn't understand.

Show me ANY scientific theory that says said theory is 100% correct in 'explaining' scientific law (natural phenomena). 

Why refuse to answer?

Because you know im right.... or do you, ohh self proclaimed troll and evolution believer yet denier, ohh self contradicting one.

I may play with Star Wars dolls but that beats Barbie anyday. Lol.

Again...

Show me ANY scientific theory that says said theory is 100% correct in 'explaining' scientific law (natural phenomena). 

Be man and man up!!! Answer your own question within my question, which is merely semantics really.

To refuse my answer is tantamount to agreeing with my point of view.

So now refuse and show everyone what your view is in truth. Which people already know.

Master Coomba

a reply to: coomba98

Yes cooms, you are a legend you win, now run along and play with your Star Wars toys

I don't care what you think

So, anyone else, a journal article stating that evolution is a fact, per the op

Thanks again

And remember, Star Wars films are not journal articles no matter what you think

originally posted by: Raggedyman
Get the article Barcs, just post it,,stop the personal attacks and post 1 single article stating that evolution and iis proven science

LMAO! Hey guys, don't use personal attacks!

"I have read millions of stupid d dumb links by people with the minds of infants, I know yours like all your other ones is the same "

"I am happy to dismiss you as another uneducated nobody wannaby, "

"Barcs, you are not smart enough, please leave me alone with your dumb comments "

"Want your mama?"

"That's not a scientific journal you ninny "

"Ak doesn't even know what a journal article is, go away ak, leave this to people with the knowledge you do more harm to your cause than good "

"Poor Ak can't produce anything relevant so produces an opinion piece, a diatribe of verbal diarrhea "

"ak is scientifically illiterate and incapable of comprehension "

"Go play dolls with your friends "

"A good indication of how cowardly pathetic and scientificaly illiterate most people in this thread are "

" the pathetic crap I have received, the childish babbling like ak has posted "

"What amazes me is the complete collective stupidity of people "

All direct quotes from Raggedty.

The paper was already posted. I'm not enabling this guy's laziness. He should be ignored. He's run this cycle a million times. Ask for evidence, when evidence is posted, blindly deny it or say it doesn't count.

originally posted by: Teikiatsu
Was new genetic information created?

Yes.

a reply to: Raggedyman

Sorry Raggedty, but the star wars argument is far better than any argument you have ever made in the history of posting on ATS.

originally posted by: Barcs

originally posted by: Raggedyman
Get the article Barcs, just post it,,stop the personal attacks and post 1 single article stating that evolution and iis proven science

LMAO! Hey guys, don't use personal attacks!

"I have read millions of stupid d dumb links by people with the minds of infants, I know yours like all your other ones is the same "

"I am happy to dismiss you as another uneducated nobody wannaby, "

"Barcs, you are not smart enough, please leave me alone with your dumb comments "

"Want your mama?"

"That's not a scientific journal you ninny "

"Ak doesn't even know what a journal article is, go away ak, leave this to people with the knowledge you do more harm to your cause than good "

"Poor Ak can't produce anything relevant so produces an opinion piece, a diatribe of verbal diarrhea "

"ak is scientifically illiterate and incapable of comprehension "

"Go play dolls with your friends "

"A good indication of how cowardly pathetic and scientificaly illiterate most people in this thread are "

" the pathetic crap I have received, the childish babbling like ak has posted "

"What amazes me is the complete collective stupidity of people "

All direct quotes from Raggedty.

The paper was already posted. I'm not enabling this guy's laziness. He should be ignored. He's run this cycle a million times. Ask for evidence, when evidence is posted, blindly deny it or say it doesn't count.

Thanks Barcs, seems like you care
You are right of course, I do get a bit inflamed.
I could consider doing the same as you and post what has been said about me but I would think that petty

I don't think I have ever called anyone a retard, interesting.

Ok Barcs, I am sorry for name calling, mostly I use words that have been used against me so I assume we are all big grown ups around here, capable of receiving what we give out, but sincerely sorry to upset you
I am sure there is a mod you can alert


The paper you posted was a failure irrelevant in context as usual, it proved nothing but micro evolution, remember that argument

originally posted by: Barcs
a reply to: Raggedyman

Sorry Raggedty, but the star wars argument is far better than any argument you have ever made in the history of posting on ATS.

As I said, considering what you have offered, the Star Wars one was as good as anything I have seen as well, no questions or arguments from me

So, any journal articles that reply to my op, more smoke and mirrors Barcs, wanna throw other off topic things in to the mix, cloud everything except the journal article I asked for

Bored yet?

originally posted by: Raggedyman
Ok Barcs, I am sorry for name calling, mostly I use words that have been used against me so I assume we are all big grown ups around here, capable of receiving what we give out, but sincerely sorry to upset you[]
I am sure there is a mod you can alert]

I wasn't offended, I just found it hilarious how you were telling everyone else to not use personal attacks when you are using them constantly. I don't usually use insults on this website, but the slogan here is "deny ignorance," so if I see it, I call it out. Same thing goes for blatant lies.

Bored yet?

Yes.

originally posted by: Barcs

originally posted by: Raggedyman
Ok Barcs, I am sorry for name calling, mostly I use words that have been used against me so I assume we are all big grown ups around here, capable of receiving what we give out, but sincerely sorry to upset you[]
I am sure there is a mod you can alert]

I wasn't offended, I just found it hilarious how you were telling everyone else to not use personal attacks when you are using them constantly. I don't usually use insults on this website, but the slogan here is "deny ignorance," so if I see it, I call it out. Same thing goes for blatant lies.

Bored yet?

Yes.

Hypocrisy much
Anyway, how we going on a journal article stating evolution beyond micro is a scientific fact

Hate to see the thread derailed again

Got any star wars film clips?

Guys just stop wasting your time blimey.
How many threads does he make to just say the same again and again and repeatedly getting owned.
We should just answer him to a link to the evolution mega thread.

originally posted by: Barcs

originally posted by: Raggedyman
Get the article Barcs, just post it,,stop the personal attacks and post 1 single article stating that evolution and iis proven science

LMAO! Hey guys, don't use personal attacks!

"I have read millions of stupid d dumb links by people with the minds of infants, I know yours like all your other ones is the same "

"I am happy to dismiss you as another uneducated nobody wannaby, "

"Barcs, you are not smart enough, please leave me alone with your dumb comments "

"Want your mama?"

"That's not a scientific journal you ninny "

"Ak doesn't even know what a journal article is, go away ak, leave this to people with the knowledge you do more harm to your cause than good "

"Poor Ak can't produce anything relevant so produces an opinion piece, a diatribe of verbal diarrhea "

"ak is scientifically illiterate and incapable of comprehension "

"Go play dolls with your friends "

"A good indication of how cowardly pathetic and scientificaly illiterate most people in this thread are "

" the pathetic crap I have received, the childish babbling like ak has posted "

"What amazes me is the complete collective stupidity of people "

All direct quotes from Raggedty.

The paper was already posted. I'm not enabling this guy's laziness. He should be ignored. He's run this cycle a million times. Ask for evidence, when evidence is posted, blindly deny it or say it doesn't count.

sadly that is actually the most relevant material he has yet produced to support his end of the... ahem, discussion. i havent seen any peer reviewed articles stating for a fact that evolutionary synthesis is a scam or a lie. surely that means something?

originally posted by: testingtesting
Guys just stop wasting your time blimey.
How many threads does he make to just say the same again and again and repeatedly getting owned.
We should just answer him to a link to the evolution mega thread.

you would probably be disappointed to learn how many discussions exactly like this get reposted again and again. i have a collection linked in my signature below to illustrate this point. and a cute little gif to further illustrate.

a reply to: TzarChasm

Hey look it's TC, an old friend
What, no Star Wars film clips, no
Clearly no journal articles
You guys are all very funny, come around beating the dead horse

I don't know why you do this, I do know why you don't bring me a journal article though
There are none

Care to post one TC or are you just here for, what are you here for
Really what are you here for, posting that others are beating on a dead horse yet here you are
Can you not see that, do you not see the stupi...oops, irony in that

Here you are again, just can't help it can you

I can justify my position as all I do is ask for that mythical journal article, every reply,
What do you bring to the table, just another opportunity for me to ask
Do you have a journal article stating evolution is a proven science?

originally posted by: testingtesting
Guys just stop wasting your time blimey.
How many threads does he make to just say the same again and again and repeatedly getting owned.
We should just answer him to a link to the evolution mega thread.

Hey testing
How are you
They havnt got an answer to my question, that's the problem
The mega thread doesn't address the issue, it addresses issues that they want to address, not the answers I am looking for
See that's the issue, I want an answer to my question that answer my question, not an answer that suits you

It's tough for me to be owned, especially so repeatedly,
I ask a question and every one posts off topic

Sounds like I am being owned, I propose a task and they all have these hissy fit type things and go on and on and on, not supplying the answer

All I am doing is asking for scientific evidence
And I am getting owned, evidently

So testing, do you have a journal article stating that evolution is a scientific fact
Thanks

a reply to: Raggedyman

Got any star wars film clips?

Well at your request I have a clip featuring Anakin Skywalker's mother who was asked a question by a theist as to why religion is being treated more and more like myths as science progresses, leaving less and less theists every day/month/year.

Thats when little Anakin says to his mother that he does not want this change. Probably had a premonition of himself becoming a Jedi.

Well, her response is nothing short of gold.

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: testingtesting
Guys just stop wasting your time blimey.
How many threads does he make to just say the same again and again and repeatedly getting owned.
We should just answer him to a link to the evolution mega thread.

Hey testing
How are you
They havnt got an answer to my question, that's the problem
The mega thread doesn't address the issue, it addresses issues that they want to address, not the answers I am looking for
See that's the issue, I want an answer to my question that answer my question, not an answer that suits you

It's tough for me to be owned, especially so repeatedly,
I ask a question and every one posts off topic

Sounds like I am being owned, I propose a task and they all have these hissy fit type things and go on and on and on, not supplying the answer

All I am doing is asking for scientific evidence
And I am getting owned, evidently

So testing, do you have a journal article stating that evolution is a scientific fact
Thanks

I haven't bothered dipping my toe into this fetid mess because I'm not sure if you're a brilliant troll playing everyone for fools because you know that in science period, whether it be utilizing the scientific method to test a hypothesis or publishing your work for peer review, nobody is ever going to state that anything is a fact because that's not how science works... or are you that dense and scientifically illiterate that you honestly think there is some random research paper out there that somehow covers the entirety of several fields of inquiry and is able to sum it all up in 20 or so pages as definitely factual?

For everyone who has opted to dance while raggedy sits back with his Colt 1870 firing at your feet while laughing like a drunken maniac, the paper he asks for does not exist. Not because evolution isn't a biological fact, but because a topic that encompasses Anthropology, Biology and Genetics (for bare bones analysis) isn't how we approach testing hypothesis, theories or anything else in a laboratory or real world setting.

Raggedy has turned a giant strawman fallacy into a carrot on the end of the stick and while occasionally sweetening the deal with quips about micro vs. macro evolutionary concepts that don't actually exist in the realm of science, all the while leading everyone around in circles for his own amusement. Peer reviewed research doesn't go into whether or not an entire scientific theory is a fact or not within the confines of a singular paper. Sure, it can test for independent reproducibility of results and confirm or dispute those results. But there is no singular paper out there that makes the claim that the Modern Evolutionary Synthesis is a fact. The MES is a theory. That theory has one purpose, to describe and explain the phenomena witnessed throughout the evolutionary history of the geological record. The "Theory of Evolution" is a separate entity from evolution itself. Evolution as a natural, biological phenomena is indeed a fact. The corpus of peer reviewed data supporting the MES is a giant checklist of everything we know about evolution and is indeed supporting evidence for the fact that evolution does indeed occur.

No Scientific Theory in the history of science has as much supporting evidence for the phenomena described as the MES does today. So if you understand science and understand how the scientific method operates then the chances are, based on results of a poll of members of the AAS, that 95% of you will understand the biology and genetics of evolution and a less than 5% chance that you will dispute it. If anyone has ever read any of raggedy's posts, especially in other forums, he contradicts himself and admits that evolution is the most likely scenario for today's biological diversity. He's doing little more than trolling everyone here by skewing the semantics of how he words his posts and replies.

Kudos to you raggedy, you kept the schtick up and didn't break character once for nearly a dozen and a half pages. Well played.

a reply to: peter vlar

Yet here you are, surprise, not really

Dense and scientificaly illiterate, let me hold a mirror up, read your words and reflect on them, drink it up man, that's you, that's your capacity to read and comprehend
16 pages of me showing people here that that journal article doesn't exist, and you call me dense and illiterate. A line of your peers arguing that the journals exist, your peers and I am dense and illiterate. You here now telling me there are no journals as I requested to show how dense and illiterate your peers are and you call me dense and illiterate

See Pete, I didn't ask because I wanted the Journal Articles
I asked for them because I know they don't exist
I have just been watching all the crazy religios psccophants try and kill the witch that blasphemed their god, that's all

You obviously missed the obvious while explaining the obvious, figure your words are self reflecting

What did you think of the journal article in this very thread that differentiated macro from micro evolution, didn't care to read that

You know what Pete
All that typing, all those words and you wasted all your time and mine

You are wrong
Macro and micro is scientificaly recognised, in journal articles, a few, but that's not why I am here

Evolution is a faith, a belief, it's not a fact, a scientific unicorn, to say anything else is a lie and indicates you hate for science

It's not a strawman, a honey trap, shooting at people's feet with a gun.
What makes you all respond the way you do, I am blaspheming your god
Look at the response, you all,want to burn this witch.

You are no different from all those Wesborough church fundies


Anyway, I am appreciate you are also admitting that there are no journal articles stating that evolution is a fact
Well good for you, but, duh
Might want to reshare that with a few of your peers, so they don't look so, well your words seem appropriate here

And just let me clarify this, evolution is a stupid theory, I don't believe in it at all
It's impossible scientificaly.
What I have said in the past, from a purely atheistic perspective it's a reasonable theory, that and it's the only theory, so you don't get a choice anyway
And I will also say, I believe special creation by the Judeo Christian God is not an easy belief either
So no Pete, you are wrong, I don't accept evolution, I think it's a faith for mindless science worshippers, people who have to believe in it because they need it to justify their own faith

I also believe there are many Christians who believe in evolution, don't think their belief disqualifies their faith in Christ at all

Though thankyou for your honesty re the lack of journal articles, I appreciate that. You, kinda let yourself down in other ways havnt you Pete
I chose the word peers, appt isn't it

originally posted by: coomba98
a reply to: Raggedyman

Got any star wars film clips?

Well at your request I have a clip featuring Anakin Skywalker's mother who was asked a question by a theist as to why religion is being treated more and more like myths as science progresses, leaving less and less theists every day/month/year.

Thats when little Anakin says to his mother that he does not want this change. Probably had a premonition of himself becoming a Jedi.

Well, her response is nothing short of gold.

Thanks Coombs, that really cool
Not really a Star Wars person myself but I appreciate the gesture

a reply to: Raggedyman

I am blaspheming your god
Look at the response, you all,want to burn this witch.

actually we prefer to laugh, and poke the proverbial swine as opposed to roasting it...

You do the roasting yourself...

Evolution is a faith, a belief, it's not a fact, a scientific unicorn, to say anything else is a lie and indicates you hate for science

And this is why...

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Raggedyman

I am blaspheming your god
Look at the response, you all,want to burn this witch.

actually we prefer to laugh, and poke the proverbial swine as opposed to roasting it...

You do the roasting yourself...

Evolution is a faith, a belief, it's not a fact, a scientific unicorn, to say anything else is a lie and indicates you hate for science

And this is why...

Funny isn't it ak, nothing from nothing
A lot of little fan boys running around very angry, did you miss it
And a few saying it can't be done, many saying they have already done it many times

Someone is lying around here

You going to post the journal article or listen to those smarter than you and accept it doesn't exist, the swine was roasted when I received replies to my request

Even you said they existed, silly silly boy

You and your peers cooked yourselves in your own juices, a meal cooked and prepared by your own peers
Not for me though, you can squabble amongst yourselves

Some say they have shown me the journal article
Others amongst you say it can't be done, squabble squabble, squabble away

Laugh and poke at me, look at yourself
Squabble squabble squabble away