It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Is it possible that the Higher Self is actually a parasitic entity?

page: 2
7
<< 1    3 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 04:49 AM
link   

Agreed...and I believe it's based on the chakras/colors of the prism. For instance, "good hearted" = pronounced heart chakra, which corresponds with "greens, veggies, healthy, etc". Green HUE-mans.
a reply to: FlukeSkywalker

Perhaps this is why Aliens are considered 'green'.Note - ''and not necessarily because they eat their greens''.



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 04:52 AM
link   
a reply to: AMPTAH

That is both hilarious and illuminating. I can't agree with your general interpretations of those ideas, but the ideas themselves are certainly valuable.

I am no food. I am a rock and you may try to consume me, but I will bring you down and make a rocky grin.


By the way, there is no guaranty that we are on the top of the food chain. Most animals do not get to know their predators until it is too late. Similarly, we might only realize the very real existence of other, possibly human-like predators, before we are eventually slaughtered by them.

After reading your explanation, I am now afraid that what passes for 'Higher Self' in many esoteric writings are simply higher-level predators. Quite unsettling to be sure. I don't, however, buy into the idea of us getting unwillingly recycled into other life-forms. That's way too sci-fi for my taste, and I can believe almost anything.
edit on 25-1-2018 by Rhaegar7 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 04:54 AM
link   
a reply to: Azureblue

That is really helpful. Thank you.

I agree with your view. My take is that some metaphysical aspects of existence can appear grotesquely distorted when seen in from an inappropriate perspective. I do not personally believe the Higher Self has anything to do with a parasite, but I want to be sure about what I believe in.



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 05:02 AM
link   
a reply to: FlukeSkywalker

Now that would be a great script for a horror film. I'd love it if you would elaborate a bit more. Could you share some specific observations that support the idea? It's really interesting to be sure.

The guy who proposed the 'parasite' idea, also teaches that chakras are control-mechanisms installed in the body, and that there is no use whatsoever in relying upon them. I won't share who he is, for I don't want to advertise him either positively or negatively. I'll respect his personal space and also to some extent, his intellectual property.



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 05:18 AM
link   
Join my religion and I'll give you all the secrets.

Introductory 7% tithe rates plus an enticing referral program.

You live inside a root system created by God's reflection (Satan), feeding the fallen Tree.



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 05:35 AM
link   
a reply to: AdKiller

Done. But only if you make me Ruler of your Cult, tithes included.



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 08:12 AM
link   

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack
a reply to: Rhaegar7

That's a very interesting take on it. I say, why not? The god of this place could be a giant mind sucking parasite feeding off human energy for it's food source. It might be the reason everyone's still here. Now how to kill it. Any suggestions?

lol, but what would happen after that? You said it might be a reason we are all here, so why kill that, which sustains us?



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 08:29 AM
link   
Hah. Look at what I found while reading up on the Gospel of Thomas. (highly recommended)

"60) a Samaritan carrying a lamb on his way to Judea.
He said to his disciples, "(Why does) that man (carry) the lamb
around?"
They said to him, "So that he may kill it and eat it."
He said to them, "While it is alive, he will not eat it, but
only when he has killed it and it has become a corpse."
They said to him, "He cannot do so otherwise."
He said to them, "You too, look for a place for yourself
within the Repose, lest you become a corpse and be eaten.""

A very intriguing synchronicity for me.

So, here is the question.. How do we avoid becoming 'a corpse'?



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 08:34 AM
link   
There are things that spy on us for life that are parasitic technologies.



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 09:09 AM
link   
I have gained the desired insight. I've now concluded that M5 is generally an intentional disinformation mind control agenda and that it tries to subtly implant erroneous ideas in the minds of the public. It's a very devious scheme too, the general ruggedness of the design is basically a fake, that serves well in order to imprint the authenticity of it directly into the subconscious.

I thank you all for your contributions.

Now I understand what is going on.

There is a real Higher Self (duh) but it is largely unknowable to us, except by the feeling we get when we connect with the inner light, etc.

All the currently advanced theories of the Higher Self as some kind of entity that assimilates experience through various incarnations are intentional distortions of the pattern and are designed as intentional misinformation. Even the very name 'Matrix' serves to fortify the vibration of this work into the realm of delusion and manipulation.

I've since relaxed that there is no reason to believe we are chained to some insane framework of thousands of 'simultaneous' incarnations, whatever that might mean. It's simply another misrepresentation of the real pattern.

A big thank you to all of you.



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 10:04 AM
link   
Is very natural to think that way, when you work on your awakening.
That means that there are forces trying to confuse you to stop doing what your doing.

Yes there are unknown entities trying to feed on us, they live in darkness, always looking for light to feed on. So the more closer you get to your goal, there more intense their battle will be.

Keep working, with a clearer mind. Be kind and get ready for more battle. At the end you will see the truth. And then silence will be your best weapon.



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 10:22 AM
link   
In that case, there's a lot of immune response going on these days!



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 12:46 PM
link   

originally posted by: Rhaegar7
Hah. Look at what I found while reading up on the Gospel of Thomas. (highly recommended)
...
So, here is the question.. How do we avoid becoming 'a corpse'?


The basic "key" to your esoteric search is given in saying #11,



Jesus said, "This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. In the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it what is alive. When you come to dwell in the light, what will you do? On the day when you were one you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?" -- The Gospel of Thomas #11


When you understand this main point, you'll understand everything.

Humans eat "dead" animals. So, they kill the animal, and then eat it's flesh. But, after you die here on earth, you enter the realm of the light, what will be your food then?

If you eat something that is "dead" you re-enter the physical world. This is what the Tibetan Buddhists warn about, in the Tibetan Book of the Dead. They warn about "re-entering the womb", which will bring you back to the physical world to live again another human life, with all it's sufferings etc..The "food" that brings you back here is the sensation of "sexual lust". Which is the reason that Priests and Monks practice celibacy. To get control and command over that "desire" or "hunger" that simply keeps you coming back to the Physical Plane. In the scriptures, this is referred to as eating something that tastes "sweet in the mouth" but then becomes "bitter in the belly" afterwords. That is, after a few moments of "sugar", tasting the orgasmic "fruit" from the spirit world, you then find yourself wandering once again among the suffering beings amidst the physical plane, as it traps you into yet another human baby.

In the opening verses, The Gospel of Thomas claims, that once you understand these things,



(1) And he said, "Whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not taste death."


that is, you'll voluntarily stop eating dead things, once you comprehend what's happening in the world around you. But, because you don't fully understand, you continue to be "hungry" for things that are dead, and continue to have and maintain, or re-acquire, a physical body.

So, ok, you get it, and decide you're no longer going to eat any thing that is dead. What will you eat then?

The living things, that live in the realm of the light, eat other "living things." They avoid eating the dead, and only eat what is alive, "while it is living."

When one living thing eats another living thing, they combine into one new greater living thing.

In the Holy Bible, we're told that when man dies here on earth, the God that created him, consumes his spirit.



Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. -- KJV, Ecclesiastes 12:7


The "flesh", which is made up of the "dust" of the earth, is not alive. It's your "spirit" that dwells in the flesh, and that animates that flesh, that is really living. And God only "eats" the "living spirit". Of course, the Bible makes it acceptable, rather than describing God as a "higher being" that is just a parasite or predator, it says "the spirit returns to the god that gave it". Suggesting that it was God's spirit all along. He owned your spirit. Therefore, it's different when he eats your spirit, he's just "taking it back".

A lot of diplomatic language is used in the scriptures to describe what is really going on. Which is, higher beings eating lower beings.

The Jesus of The Gospel of Thomas, however, is not so diplomatic. He suggests that your spirit belongs to you.



They showed Jesus a gold coin and said to him, "Caesar's men demand taxes from us." He said to them, "Give Caesar what belongs to Caesar, give God what belongs to God, and give me what is mine." -- The Gospel of Thomas #100


Basically, Jesus is saying you don't have to allow yourself to be "eaten" by some higher being. You don't have to believe that this is the natural order of things, and accept it. You can keep what is yours. Don't let anyone take it away.

So, Jesus was a radical, that's why they crucified him. He was teaching "resistance" to the higher beings. The Gospel of Thomas itself, had to be hidden away for centuries. It opposed that idea that "I belong to God, so he has the right to eat me without my consent. So, anyone eating me, must be a God, and it's ok to let them do it." You can see how dangerous that idea is, to the livelihood of the "higher beings".

In the Tibetan Book of the Dead, there's a description of the journey the person goes through in the afterlife. At each new stage, the person "feels fear" on seeing the "bright shining lights" that are drawing him towards them like "tractor beams", and the book says "not to be afraid", but to recognize these bright lights as "your own true nature" and it tells you to "overcome your fear" and go towards them and "merge" with the light. But, the book isn't telling the whole story, it's just propaganda to feed the gods, to feed these "higher selves".

That "fear" you feel, is a natural instinct. And instincts are only developed after exposure to prior experience. The "fear" tells you that "you've been this route before", and it didn't end well for you. Hence, you're afraid. You're not exactly sure why you're afraid, you don't have any immediate memory to justify it, you just have a "premonition" a "deep memory" that something isn't right.

So, what we see, is that all these religions teach man to accept as his "fate", what is instinctively "unnatural" for him to accept. That's why he needs to be "taught". Because, it's against his natural instincts, conflicts with his own internal wisdom. But, many of the "secret esoteric cults" teach the opposite, that's why their teachings are kept secret. They don't want open conflict with the higher beings. But, they re-describe all this "eating" from a different perspective, one that doesn't incline the individual to "accept" the outer teachings so readily.



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 01:57 PM
link   
a reply to: BotheLumberJack

Very subtle difference in the words Green and Grey.



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 02:44 PM
link   
There have been some really good threads on this theory linking it to the ideas of 'The Theocrats'.


www.bibliotecapleyades.net...


The Theocrats are violating natural laws when they refuse to reincarnate.

The souls of all living beings are constructed to incarnate and draw energy from the physical body. This is the only natural and efficient way in which the soul can get the vital energy it needs to function and regenerate itself. Although the mechanics of this process are quite complicated, we will explain them in some detail to allow you to understand the rest of the theory.



The Theocrats are spirits with great knowledge and psychic power. They are a sort of ruling class on the astral plane, and they don't want to give up their power and privilege by reincarnating. Highly advanced souls who aren't Theocrats reincarnate and take the chance that their soul can properly educate their new mind, and that their next reincarnation will be a pleasant and valuable one.



The nourishment that disembodied spirits receive from living people as radiant psychic energy is not enough to sustain them by itself. This is why all non-Theocratic spirits reincarnate within ten to fifty years after physical death: if they don't, the astral soul starts to degenerate because of a sort of malnutrition.

The astral matter that makes up its tissues can't regenerate itself properly and reverse the effects of entropy. So the choice is reincarnation or illness, insanity, and death.

The Theocrats have found an alternative to this, but it is an evil one: cannibalism. They use their telepathic powers to hypnotize spirits less highly developed than they are; then they attach the silver cord to them just as if the other astral soul were the somatic soul of an infant.

They can draw out enough energy this way to sustain themselves on the astral plane indefinitely, but the process destroys the other spirit.



posted on Jan, 25 2018 @ 05:20 PM
link   

originally posted by: Rhaegar7
a reply to: FlukeSkywalker

Now that would be a great script for a horror film. I'd love it if you would elaborate a bit more. Could you share some specific observations that support the idea? It's really interesting to be sure.

The guy who proposed the 'parasite' idea, also teaches that chakras are control-mechanisms installed in the body, and that there is no use whatsoever in relying upon them. I won't share who he is, for I don't want to advertise him either positively or negatively. I'll respect his personal space and also to some extent, his intellectual property.
"The Esoteric Human Tapeworm...Segment 1"



posted on Jan, 27 2018 @ 02:43 AM
link   
a reply to: Arnie123


o why kill that, which sustains us?

People are parasitic, that's why.



posted on Jan, 27 2018 @ 10:26 PM
link   
In simplistic terms of understanding the higher self would be a video gamer and the video game avatar they play as within a game like Mass effect series for example.
Making the gamer the higher self and the game avatar the lower representative of the gamer within the specific game arena of choice.
Usually chosen by the gamer or higher self...



Deva (/ˈdeɪvə/; Sanskrit: देव, Devá) means "heavenly, divine, anything of excellence", and is also one of the terms for a deity in Hinduism.[1] Deva is masculine, and the related feminine equivalent is devi (pronounced Devee).

In the earliest Vedic literature, all supernatural beings are called Asuras.[2][3] The concepts and legends evolve in ancient Indian literature, and by the late Vedic period, benevolent supernatural beings are referred to as Deva-Asuras. In post-Vedic texts, such as the Puranas and the Itihasas of Hinduism, the Devas represent the good, and the Asuras the bad.[4][5] In some medieval Indian literature, Devas are also referred to as Suras and contrasted with their equally powerful but malevolent half-brothers, referred to as the Asuras.[6]

Devas along with Asuras, Yakshas(nature spirits) and Rakshasas (ghosts, ogres) are part of Indian mythology, and Devas feature in one of many cosmological theories in Hinduism.[7][8]


en.m.wikipedia.org...(Hinduism)

In more metaphysical terms of understanding, it would be comparable to the Dashavatara and all previous avatar of LORD VISHNU.
LORD VISHNU being the higher self of all avatars...



Dashavatara (Sanskrit: दशावतार, daśāvatāra) refers to the ten primary avatars of Vishnu, the Hindu god of preservation. Vishnu is said to descend in form of an avatar to restore cosmic order. The word Dashavatara derives from daśa, meaning 'ten', and avatar (avatāra), roughly equivalent to 'incarnation'.

The list of included avatars varies across sects and regions, and no list can be uncontroversially presented as standard. However, most draw from the following set of figures, omitting at least one of those listed in parentheses: Matsya, Kurma, Varaha, Narasimha, Vamana, Parashurama, Rama, Krishna, (Balarama) or (Buddha) and Kalki. In traditions that omit Krishna, he often replaces Vishnu as the source of all avatars. Some traditions include a regional deity such as Vithoba or Jagannath in penultimate position, replacing Krishna or Buddha.

The order of the ancient concept of Dashavataras has been interpreted to be reflective of modern Darwinian evolution.


en.m.wikipedi...


Another comparison would be
LORD JESUS CHRIST & THE HOLY GHOST and THE FATHER.
Making the FATHER the higher self guiding and or influencing the entire group.



For the majority of Christiandenominations, the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost is the third person (hypostasis) of the Trinity: the Triune God manifested as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit; each person itself being God.[2][3][4]

Some Christian theologians identify the Holy Spirit with the Ruach Hakodesh(Holy Breath) in Jewish scripture, and with many similar names including: the Ruach Elohim (Spirit of God), Ruach YHWH (Spirit of Yahweh), Ruach Hakmah (Spirit of Wisdom);[5][6] In the New Testament it is identified, among others, with the Spirit of Christ, the Spirit of Truth, the Paraclete and the Holy Spirit.[7][8][9]

The New Testament details a close relationship between the Holy Spirit and Jesus during his earthly life and ministry.[10] The Gospels of Matthewand Luke and the Nicene Creed state that Jesus was "conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary".[11] The Holy Spirit descended on Jesus like a dove during his baptism, and in his Farewell Discourse after the Last SupperJesus promised to send the Holy Spirit to his disciples after his departure.[12][13]


en.m.wikipedia.org...

NAMASTE*******



posted on Jan, 27 2018 @ 10:38 PM
link   
a reply to: Rhaegar7

If your higher self is of Asuras or Archon types it is possible negative activities may assist them in a parasitic type of relationship with the unaware host.



posted on Jan, 27 2018 @ 10:49 PM
link   


मैत्रेय



Maitreya (Sanskrit), Metteyya (Pali), is regarded as a future Buddha of this world in Buddhist eschatology. In some Buddhist literature, such as the Amitabha Sutra and the Lotus Sutra, he is referred to as Ajita.
According to Buddhist tradition, Maitreya is a bodhisattva who will appear on Earth in the future, achieve complete enlightenment, and teach the pure dharma. According to scriptures, Maitreya will be a successor to the present Buddha, Gautama Buddha (also known as Śākyamuni Buddha).[1][2] The prophecy of the arrival of Maitreya refers to a time in the future when the dharma will have been forgotten by most on the terrestrial world.


NAMASTE clarity



new topics

    top topics



     
    7
    << 1    3 >>

    log in

    join